OSU shows again why I pull for this conference

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CountVolcula said:
Some don't have a frickin clue how big the Auburn/UT rivalry was until the split

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Which was more than 20 years ago. There's not enough energy for me or anyone else to hate every single SEC team. Some of them are alright, and Auburn is one of those teams.
 
#27
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Instead of saying "The conference being good is hurting UT". Well we need to fix the problem and win ourselves! It's proven that multiple teams can have success in the league.
 
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tn4elvis said:
Auburn acted like they wanted to play Usc in 2004 .Did they forget what Sc did to them in 2003 at home .I dont think AU really wanted any of that 04 Sc team
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Wasn't the same Auburn team. 04 team was much better
 
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Other_Guy said:
Instead of saying "The conference being good is hurting UT". Well we need to fix the problem and win ourselves! It's proven that multiple teams can have success in the league.
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I agree but can you also agree that usually when certain teams are on their way up they are passing other teams on their way down? That's usually the way it works isn't it? The whole conference cannot be elite. Usually you have 2 or 3 elite teams while you have a handful of pretenders and a few bottom feeders. I still maintain that it won't be enough for Tennessee to get good again. Other programs are going to have to start regressing.
 
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salutethehill said:
I would agree with this if it weren't the exact opposite of what's going on in Knoxville right now.
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SEC strength helps UT--even now…

It's not evident that it's helping us because we're not in the mix--but look at USCe…ranked in the top 10 with 2 losses…

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU on here points to that game as proving that CBJ has the ability to get us to where we need to be--Why? Quality opponent….

It's illogical to disagree with the same reasoning I'm using to want the SEC to win bowl games as you loudly PRAISE CBJ for the quality win against a ranked opponent that CDD never got!

Our mess is our own fault--but we will reap the benefits of SEC strength once CBJ has us competitive again...:salute:
 
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tn4elvis said:
Auburn acted like they wanted to play Usc in 2004 .Did they forget what Sc did to them in 2003 at home .I dont think AU really wanted any of that 04 Sc team
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AU couldn't have possibly done worse than that OK team against USCw that year…..I would have rather had an SEC team with the opportunity than watching OK get slaughtered…….:salute:
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I agree but can you also agree that usually when certain teams are on their way up they are passing other teams on their way down? That's usually the way it works isn't it? The whole conference cannot be elite. Usually you have 2 or 3 elite teams while you have a handful of pretenders and a few bottom feeders. I still maintain that it won't be enough for Tennessee to get good again. Other programs are going to have to start regressing.
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This what a lot of our blockhead fanbase does not understand. The full throated SEC chanters are just trying to live vicariously through the success of rival teams that we have to compete with year in and year out on the field, on the recruiting trail and in the assistant coaching market. Personally, I think the whole conference pride concept is little more than a security blanket for the small minded and short sighted.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
This what a lot of our blockhead fanbase does not understand. The full throated SEC chanters are just trying to live vicariously through the success of rival teams that we have to compete with year in and year out on the field, on the recruiting trail and in the assistant coaching market. Personally, I think the whole conference pride concept is little more than a security blanket for the small minded and short sighted.
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your ignorance shines through like a beacon in the night.
 
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golfballs said:
Perhaps bull**** shines like a beacon over troubles seas, and the small dinghy you're sailing is named the truth.
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It's not bull****. To me, pulling for the rest of your conference to be good is stupid. I pull for nothing more than my team and whatever helps gain them an advantage. The rest of the conference sucking gives my team an advantage, therefore that's what I hope for!
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
It's not bull****. To me, pulling for the rest of your conference to be good is stupid. I pull for nothing more than my team and whatever helps gain them an advantage. The rest of the conference sucking gives my team an advantage, therefore that's what I hope for!
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Ill make this as simple as possible.

every time a SEC team wins a bowl game its more money for every SEC team.

But you think millions less for UT is a good thing.

you people honestly cant see the forest for the trees.

I guess the saying "Ignorance is bliss" is true.
 
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vols4evah said:
Ill make this as simple as possible.

every time a SEC team wins a bowl game its more money for every SEC team.

But you think millions less for UT is a good thing.

you people honestly cant see the forest for the trees.

I guess the saying "Ignorance is bliss" is true.
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Yeah and all that money has really helped us win hasn't it?

I don't care how much CBJ improves the talent on our roster, we are going to continue to struggle to win as long as the rest of the conference is so strong. Back when UT was winning all the time, the rest of the conference was down except Florida. Like I said before, it won't be enough for Tennessee to improve. Other programs are going to have to regress.
 
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Other_Guy said:
As a whole, of course. There are obviously some teams I will never pull for. However, the point of pulling for Auburn to take home another SEC NCG is because I want to play in a strong conference so I can know EXACTLY where my team is at. That's why the SEC does so well in bowl games, when they play against similiar record teams they usually win. OSU once again plays a weak schedule then gets embarrassed once again.
I'm not going to be stupid and say I would keep 5-7 over OSU's 12-1 BCS bowl appearance season, but I'd rather not be the best team in the SEC than look like the best in another conference (especially Big 2 1/2) and get exposed as an overrated team who doesn't. OSU has been the laughing stock to out league over the years. I know UT has as well sadly, but when UT is 9-3, they will go to the Cotton Bowl while OSU is going to another BCS game cuz they play a sucky schedule and they get beat again. Once again they'll be a top 5 ranked team next year. Joke.
So I'm not cheering that Bama has been so dominant, but they are TRULLY dominant because the SEC is so strong. OSU still sucks.
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Not only that.... when an SEC school dominates an opponent it makes the case to get rid of this ridiculous 2 teams per conference rule in the BCS which could really potentially hurt Tennessee in the future....as it did South Carolina and Missouri this year both of which deserved and major bowl invite.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
It's not bull****. To me, pulling for the rest of your conference to be good is stupid. I pull for nothing more than my team and whatever helps gain them an advantage. The rest of the conference sucking gives my team an advantage, therefore that's what I hope for!
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Would you be happier if Tennessee moved to the ACC?
 
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Not happier but if they ever did move to the ACC it wouldn't make me any less of a fan. I'm not an SEC fan. I'm a Tennessee fan.
 
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Obviously you are a fan. But would you rather see them play in the ACC than the SEC?
 
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MikeVol44 said:
UT reaps advantages for the SEC to dominate bowl games and win NC for SEVERAL reasons:

1) Conference bowl revenue
2) CONFERENCE stature in TV and Bowl markets
3) RECRUITING, RECRUITING, RECRUITING
4) Poll positioning

It's not obvious right now because we're not in the mix, but it's still important for strength of schedule--and that will be extremely evident in the next few years.

Look at Michigan State for example. Why are they not ranked at No. 3 behind Ohio State instead of Auburn before tonight's game? They were 7-6 last year (way better than 3-9) and have only lost 1 game by 4 points this year--and yet they are only ranked 10th before tonight--with two 2-loss teams ahead of them and three 1-loss teams ahead of them--WHY?

CONFERENCE STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE! That's why I want EVERY SEC Bowl team to win! And I hope the Shooga Bowl is Alabama against Ohio State with Bama winning 42-0!!!

Conference strength of schedule and wins will help our VOLS in the rankings when we rise back to the top!

IF the playoff of the top 4 teams would be in effect this year--do you think MSU should get into the playoff over Stanford, the 2-loss pac-12 champion?

Here's hoping Auburn beats FSU! :salute:
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MikeVol44 said:
It AIN'T THEORY, my friend. You're seeing it as reality RIGHT NOW as Michigan State is ranked 10th and AU is ranked 3rd and will play for the NC!!!!!!

Riddle me this--just WHY should AU be ranked ahead of Michigan State after tonight??? There is NO REASON for Auburn to be ranked ahead of Michigan State after tonight UNLESS you consider STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE!!!

Both are conference champions--but coaches and voters in the polls recognize and respect the strength of the SEC. And that fact has carried the day for Auburn (remember, Auburn is 1 MIRACLE away from being a 2 loss team--remember the Georgia game??)

That respect is not earned overnight--it comes from YEARS of SEC dominance in the bowl games and in winning 7 straight NCs--regardless if they like us or not. Auburn is getting the benefit of it this year, but soon it will be our turn!

I also remember when an UNDEFEATED SEC champion was left out of the NC game some years back--it was AU, and I don't want that to happen to any other SEC team, especially our Vols! I do remember EVERYONE saying that we didn't even belong in the '98 NC game when we were undefeated!

So, once again, that's my case for ALWAYS pulling for the SEC in the bowls….and it will help us one day--soon! :salute:
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Very well said. My thoughts exactly.
 
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