OT: Volnation members and bashing recruits

[KnoxVegas]

“I have a comment that someone put on Volquest.com that my dad showed me,” Mason said. “It said: ‘Hutson Mason will never play a down in the SEC. He’ll never do anything. He’s garbage.’ I printed it out and put it in my locker and highlighted it and it’s still in my locker right now. So every day I open up my locker I see it before I work out. You just use all that stuff for motivation. Sometimes you just want to take some action and prove somebody wrong.”

I saw this and thought everyone here in the recruiting forum should read it's contents... (So we don't negatively effect a recruit that UT is recruiting)

Recruits and their parents read message boards...we have seen that first hand here at VN...

 

[PayingUTKTuition]

Exactly

 

[sjt18]

It makes sense. Wouldn't you? It is pathetic when people get on here and bash kids... especially when it is nothing more than sour grapes.

 

[VolOnthePlains]

I saw this and thought everyone here in the recruiting forum should read it's contents... (So we don't negatively effect a recruit that UT is recruiting)

Recruits and their parents read message boards...we have seen that first hand here at VN...

+1

 

[gainesvol82]

Great thread. Lots of recruits google themselves. In a lot of cases, message boards talking about that recruit are the first sites that come up. Kids shouldn't make their college decisions based on such things but we really shouldn't risk it.

For example, all the idiots bashing Ambles for being a pre-madonna.

 

[KingsportVol88]

so are you sayin if someone doesn't have 4 or 5 stars they could still end up being a rock solid player? I too have been fooled by all the Vol Nation star gazers

 

[aredfox28]

can we ban people on here that do it...

 

[VOLincarolina]

exactly!! post thread in a while!!

 

[VOLincarolina]

best thread*

 

[GahLee]

Great thread. Lots of recruits google themselves. In a lot of cases, message boards talking about that recruit are the first sites that come up. Kids shouldn't make their college decisions based on such things but we really shouldn't risk it.

For example, all the idiots bashing Ambles for being a pre-madonna.

So he was Madonna before Madonna was Madonna?

These kids better get used to it, if they can't handle a little criticism, game over.

They should know the game by now, if they aren't coming to your school, then they suck, it's just they way it is.

 

[MyBloodRunnethOrange]

Great thread. Lots of recruits google themselves. In a lot of cases, message boards talking about that recruit are the first sites that come up. Kids shouldn't make their college decisions based on such things but we really shouldn't risk it.

For example, all the idiots bashing Ambles for being a pre-madonna.

As opposed to a post-madonna. Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[Demon_Vol]

While I agree that people shouldn't bash these kids, there's really no way to stop it. Every school has their share of stupid and classless fans that post things that are better left unsaid. Also trolling is at an all time high on all message boards so there will be those that try to cause trouble by pretending to be a fan and talking trash about a player.

So while I agree with your sentiments, just don't ever expect it to actually stop.

 

[GahLee]

Also, for every guy bad-mouthing Ambles or whoever, there 9 that are gaga over him, or whoever the prospect may be.

 

[GahLee]

If this kid is motivated by what some guy on VolQuest says, just some average guy, who may or may not know anything about football, then that is on him, I would like to think these guys shoud have something better to motivate them other than message boards.

 

[volswillrise12]

That's very Mark Wahlberg Vince Papali "Invincible-esque"---hey listen 95% of the people who get on here don't what the heck they are talking about...if Mason can use that as motivation good for him!

 

[DERELICK_MY_VOLS]

I just hope recruits realize that there is simply alot of DUMB people out there....VOL, Gator, Hog, Tide, Tiger, Dawg......they are everywhere but negative people think they are funny and cool when they post their HATE JUNK on these boards...all they look like is PUNK :shaking2:'s IMO!

 

[GoVols876]

I think some Tennessee fans are a little worried. Florida loaded up in this recruiting class. They got four 5-star players, sixteen 4-star, and four 3-star. Alabama didn't do too shabby either with two 5-star, nineteen 4-star, and four 3-star.

How is Tennessee doing? Well we got zero 5-star players, thirteen 4-star, ten 3-star, and two 2-star. I know that this isn't the ultimate factor on how these guys will do, but it's still a little worrying to see our rivals load up while we are stealing recruits from Vandy, ECU, and LA Tech.

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This is from another board, and not my research.

Over the past 5 years there have been:

174 5-star players

1838 4-stars

5754 3-stars

10323 2-stars

Then I looked at all americans for the past 2 years and figured out the star rating of everyone on the team. I would have liked to look at a longer period of time but I didn't have much time to devote.

21 5-stars

42 4-stars

45 3-stars

19 2 stars

So here's the conclusions:

A 5 star player has about a 12% chance of being an all-american

A 4 star player has about a 2% chance of being all-american

3 star has 0.7% chance

2 star has 0.2% chance

Here's another way to say it: a 5 star player is about 60 times more likely to be an all-american than a 2 star.

A 5 star is 6 times more likely to be all-american than a 4 star.

A 4 star is 12 times more likely than a 2 star to be an all-american.

So for everybody who says that stars don't matter and they just want kids who eat nails and piss fire, take a step back and understand that stars aren't perfect, but they are an excellent predictor of performance on the field.

 

[Demon_Vol]

I think some Tennessee fans are a little worried. Florida loaded up in this recruiting class. They got four 5-star players, sixteen 4-star, and four 3-star. Alabama didn't do too shabby either with two 5-star, nineteen 4-star, and four 3-star.

How is Tennessee doing? Well we got zero 5-star players, thirteen 4-star, ten 3-star, and two 2-star. I know that this isn't the ultimate factor on how these guys will do, but it's still a little worrying.

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This is from another board, and not my research.

Over the past 5 years there have been:

174 5-star players

1838 4-stars

5754 3-stars

10323 2-stars

Then I looked at all americans for the past 2 years and figured out the star rating of everyone on the team. I would have liked to look at a longer period of time but I didn't have much time to devote.

21 5-stars

42 4-stars

45 3-stars

19 2 stars

So here's the conclusions:

A 5 star player has about a 12% chance of being an all-american

A 4 star player has about a 2% chance of being all-american

3 star has 0.7% chance

2 star has 0.2% chance

Here's another way to say it: a 5 star player is about 60 times more likely to be an all-american than a 2 star.

A 5 star is 6 times more likely to be all-american than a 4 star.

A 4 star is 12 times more likely than a 2 star to be an all-american.

So for everybody who says that stars don't matter and they just want kids who eat nails and piss fire, take a step back and understand that stars aren't perfect, but they are an excellent predictor of performance on the field.

Umm, what? :blink:

 

[gainesvol82]

So he was Madonna before Madonna was Madonna?

These kids better get used to it, if they can't handle a little criticism, game over.

They should know the game by now, if they aren't coming to your school, then they suck, it's just they way it is.

As opposed to a post-madonna. Sorry, couldn't resist.

You gotta love Volnationisms!

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

Couldn't agree more with the OP. There is WAY too much bashing that occurs regarding recruits, and yet at the same time there are posts making fun of UGA posters for knocking on Da'Rick for making his visit to TN. I have no problem if posters want to comment about a person's abilities based on some type of observation, and as a previous person said these "kids" better get used to it and learn to develop a thick skin. However, to post "Hutson Mason will never play a down in the SEC. He’ll never do anything. He’s garbage." is ridiculous on so many levels.

 

[volroadwarrior]

The same goes for kids already here. Cases in point: Jonathan Crompton, Arian Foster and Austin Rogers were shamefully bashed and criticized as well as others. Could be trolls, bandwagon jumpers, stupid people, etc. These are the same people who boo our players in front of recruits and send them death threats.

 

[I_Hate_the_BCS]

So he was Madonna before Madonna was Madonna?

These kids better get used to it, if they can't handle a little criticism, game over.

They should know the game by now, if they aren't coming to your school, then they suck, it's just they way it is.

Why don't you post a few videos of your kids playing sports and we'll all critique it....I mean if he or she is an athlete they should get used to it right?

The truth is 99.9% of us have never been a superstar athlete, D1 product. Now a few on here will say they were but really weren't. I find it sad that grown adults sit around a bash these kids cause they don't want to got to Tennessee. Most people I know have never been on campus at another college besides Tennessee and have no idea what its like. These kids tick me off with being wishy washy but they're someones son and if it was my kid being bashed I would be pissed and deter them from going to that school.

 

[gainesvol82]

If this kid is motivated by what some guy on VolQuest says, just some average guy, who may or may not know anything about football, then that is on him, I would like to think these guys shoud have something better to motivate them other than message boards.

Great competitors take motivation in anything that they can. Heck, some of the best ever contrived insults that weren't even there.

 

[volger]

i just hope recruits realize that there is simply alot of dumb people out there....vol, gator, hog, tide, tiger, dawg......they are everywhere but negative people think they are funny and cool when they post their hate junk on these boards...all they look like is punk :shaking2:'s imo!

+1000

 

[DownTheField]

As opposed to a post-madonna. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Right. Here's pre-madonna: