our 2007 recruiting class

#26
#26
kptvol said:
I think a lot of the bigger guys we've gotten in the last few years have been kids other programs have backed off because there were signs something like this may happen. I'm pretty sure that happened with Morley.
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So we went with the rankings and didn't actually evaluate most of them in person?? That's what it sounds like
 
#27
#27
Great Post...wake up vols fans....there is the issue....I wonder how that class would rank now?
 
#28
#28
you could of just looked at the roster online instead of making a thread and turning everyone into mcgiver. im not trying to be being an a hole.... im just sayin
 
#30
#30
sorry? i didnt feel like spending all that time when im sure someone could just list them.. not to mention it shows why our team lacks so much depth.
 
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lylsmorr said:
So we went with the rankings and didn't actually evaluate most of them in person?? That's what it sounds like
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Just signed guys with questionable grades or character. Other schools let these guys loose to chase more reliable prospects.
 
#34
#34
The 2007 class followed the same path as our 2005 class... highly ranked, wracked by attrition due to grades, off the field problems, discipline, etc.

Wonder what the re-rank of those 2 classes would be right now? 2005 wouldn't even crank the top 25.
 
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kptvol said:
Just signed guys with questionable grades or character. Other schools let these guys loose to chase more reliable prospects.
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Ah that's true. I'll take a three star willing to bust his tail everyday over a Brandon Warren type any day of the week
 
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#37
Indianavol4eva said:
is it normal for this many players to be gone 2 years after the class is brought in?
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6 from this list were on the team until CLK arrived. 2 finished their eligibility (willingham and mckenzie), and a few never made it in (Williams, Melancon, and Hall I believe)....
 
#38
#38
This is a good thread to help people realize how low our talent level really is. We are seriously about on par with Vanderbilt in a lot of positions. Maybe a bit above that, but you guys see what I'm getting at, it's bad. We have some good talent sprinkled in (EB is obviously exceptional), but not enough for our coaches to turn this around in a year.
 
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Volfootball55 said:
This is a good thread to help people realize how low our talent level really is. We are seriously about on par with Vanderbilt in a lot of positions. Maybe a bit above that, but you guys see what I'm getting at, it's bad. We have some good talent sprinkled in (EB is obviously exceptional), but not enough for our coaches to turn this around in a year.
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agreed. i know i took a shot at you for starting this thread indiana but it does bring up a good point. you had this class and then a trash class the year after, probably one of the worst phillip has ever had. the 07 and 08 classes definetly tell the tale of this current team.
 
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Indianavol4eva said:
is it normal for this many players to be gone 2 years after the class is brought in?
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It's not that bad, to be perfectly honest with you. Normal attrition is around 30%. That's about 34% if you take away the two JuCo guys who are obviously not here because they have graduated. It's probably a little higher than you'd like, but it's not alarmingly high.
 
#41
#41
Can someone make it where before you start a new thread in the Football forum you get a popup that says "I have read and agree to these terms & conditions" and put this thread inside the popup?
 
#42
#42
VOLNBAMA said:
also only Berry has proved that he was worthy of his 5th star.
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This is another good point. The reason this class was so highly ranked was partially attributed to the number of 5* players recruited (5 total). These 5* players, if accurately ranked and properly developed, should be high quality starters by now.

Here is where they are:

Berry - everything he was billed to be and more
Vinson - flashes of greatness mixed with frustrating decisions
Ben Martin - (he was a huge steal from OSU if I remember correctly) getting some PT, but having trouble beating out the other DEs on the roster
Chris Donald - I still have hope he becomes great, but he is having trouble getting on the field in an extremely thin LB corp
Kenny O'Neal - Gone
 
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#43
EricFreakingBerry said:
Can someone make it where before you start a new thread in the Football forum you get a popup that says "I have read and agree to these terms & conditions" and put this thread inside the popup?
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Wouldn't matter because very few people actually read those things, and the few who do take the time to read them would likely be wise enough to understand the points in this thread.
 
#44
#44
First&Tenn said:
Wouldn't matter because very few people actually read those things, and the few who do take the time to read them would likely be wise enough to understand the points in this thread.
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Point well taken.

It just seems like there is a great majority of staff supporters and realists about the state of the program and our current talent level posting regularly here in the Recruiting forum. But when you venture over into the Football forum it's like a different universe captained by idiots, trolls, and Fulmerites.
 
#45
#45
Sabanocchio said:
It's not that bad, to be perfectly honest with you. Normal attrition is around 30%. That's about 34% if you take away the two JuCo guys who are obviously not here because they have graduated. It's probably a little higher than you'd like, but it's not alarmingly high.
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ya thats good stuff. we just didnt have the depth to handle that attrition and its killing us. and the class after?! ej abrams ward was one of our biggest signees i mean come on! soon though guys soon
 
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#46
First&Tenn said:
This is another good point. The reason this class was so highly ranked was partially attributed to the number of 5* players recruited (5 total). These 5* players, if accurately ranked and properly developed, should be high quality starters by now.

Here is where they are:

Berry - everything he was billed to be and more
Vinson - flashes of greatness mixed with frustrating decisions
Ben Martin - (he was a huge steal from OSU if I remember correctly) getting some PT, but having trouble beating out the other DEs on the roster
Chris Donald - I still have hope he becomes great, but he is having trouble getting on the field in an extremely thin LB corp
Kenny O'Neal - Gone
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Donald is an end now and still on the light side for the position.
 
#49
#49
Sabanocchio said:
It's not that bad, to be perfectly honest with you. Normal attrition is around 30%. That's about 34% if you take away the two JuCo guys who are obviously not here because they have graduated. It's probably a little higher than you'd like, but it's not alarmingly high.
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Wouldn't normal attrition usually include a higher percentage of players leaving that just don't pan out and aren't good enough to see the field? It seems like this class has a higher than average number of high potential players leaving for bad reasons.
 
#50
#50
But, but, but we have great recruiting classes on paper the past few years so our talent level should be at least at par with Auburn and UCLA and UGA, yada, yada, yada. This is a great reality check for those that don't/can't/refuse to get their head wrapped around why we are where we're at this year.

Bright side is that if we're going to lose, at least we're losing with a lot of roster spots available for Kiffin's staff to fill versus losing with a bunch of hold overs that will take another year or two to attrition out. This should help the rebuild process go a bit faster.
 
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