Our path to the East as of week 10

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apevol said:
if the dawgs drop games to the vols and mizzou and the vols win out i see no comprehensible reason the vols aren't the highest ranked of the 3
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Let me introduce you to the NCAA and this thing called, recent history. Georgia has it , and we don’t. I wouldn’t be so quick to say it would be a lock.
 
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A 2 loss SEC champ will not be in the playoffs. A 1 loss SEC team will not be in there with 4 or more unbeatens. I could really care less since we're not the one loss SEC team with anything to lose.
 
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TN1111 said:
I think he's saying there can't be a "huge win in Neyland" next Saturday.
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I think Milton destroys them next week. If we can stop the Qb run, and the screen, then I see no reason our defense shuts them down. Sampson and Squirrel are all sec, and everyone will see how weak ga is.
 
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Manning4ever said:
My question is who doesn't believe we have a chance. We win out. Beat Missouri and GA, we are in the sec championship. A win there and who would deny an Sec champion for the playoffs?
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I think the argument would be how much chaos happened in front of us.

Say we finish 11-2 SEC Champs with 2 wins over Top 10 teams in a 3 game stretch.

Note that UgA has to lose to Ole Miss so they would likely be Top 5-8 rank if they lose next weekend.

I really think a 2 loss Big 12 champ is out of the running. So ideally, Texas has another loss.

From there, let’s say you have 12-1/13-0 Florida State

13-0 Michigan / Ohio State

13-0 / 12-1 Washington or Oregon

11-2 Tennessee / 11-1 Ole Miss

Does a SEC Title + 2 losses outrank an 11-1 Ohio State/Michigan who didn’t win conference but only loss is to a top 4 team AND a potential 12-1 Washington team who loses in Vegas? Or even an 11-1 Ole Miss

I think the PAC 12 will eat their own and don’t think Washington wins out. So having two 1 loss teams in Vegas likely assures only 1 team is in play.

My view is we would need to be ranked 8 or higher going into Atlanta if we make it and have 11-1 Bama ranked in the Top 2 to have any shot of securing the 4th spot
 
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CR-vol said:
A 2 loss SEC champ will not be in the playoffs. A 1 loss SEC team will not be in there with 4 or more unbeatens. I could really care less since we're not the one loss SEC team with anything to lose.
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12-1 Sec Champ Alabama will 100000% be in the playoff regardless of what other teams’ records are.

Also it’s impossible that there can be 4 unbeatens at this point. Ohio State/Michigan will have a loss so they are out.

Washington is only undefeated PAC12 team left

Florida State is only undefeated ACC team left

Bama being 12-1 means UGA is no longer undefeated.


With 12-1 Bama, the max amount of undefeated teams there can be are 3 so that leaves open the 4th spot for a 1 loss SEC or Big12 champ….
 
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Manning4ever said:
I think Milton destroys them next week. If we can stop the Qb run, and the screen, then I see no reason our defense shuts them down. Sampson and Squirrel are all sec, and everyone will see how weak ga is.
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Do I think we can beat Georgia in Neyland, of course I do... but it's paramount we make Beck uncomfortable.

We need to keep them off balance with our play calls and be very aggressive on defense.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
12-1 Sec Champ Alabama will 100000% be in the playoff regardless of what other teams’ records are.
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I doubt they're good enough to only have 1 loss this season but yeah they *might* squeak into the playoff based on past history. Not that they'd deserve it based on this season. They catch those kind of lucky breaks but perception out there is the SEC is weak this season and there's more deserving conferences.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I think the argument would be how much chaos happened in front of us.

Say we finish 11-2 SEC Champs with 2 wins over Top 10 teams in a 3 game stretch.

Note that UgA has to lose to Ole Miss so they would likely be Top 5-8 rank if they lose next weekend.

I really think a 2 loss Big 12 champ is out of the running. So ideally, Texas has another loss.

From there, let’s say you have 12-1/13-0 Florida State

13-0 Michigan / Ohio State

13-0 / 12-1 Washington or Oregon

11-2 Tennessee / 11-1 Ole Miss

Does a SEC Title + 2 losses outrank an 11-1 Ohio State/Michigan who didn’t win conference but only loss is to a top 4 team AND a potential 12-1 Washington team who loses in Vegas? Or even an 11-1 Ole Miss

I think the PAC 12 will eat their own and don’t think Washington wins out. So having two 1 loss teams in Vegas likely assures only 1 team is in play.

My view is we would need to be ranked 8 or higher going into Atlanta if we make it and have 11-1 Bama ranked in the Top 2 to have any shot of securing the 4th spot
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We win against mizzo, and ga. Than we when the east. Totally achievable. My question is with 2 losses, and an Sec championship title game. Would we make it into the playoffs. Florida could beat fsu, and Michigan could beat Ohio st.
 
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CR-vol said:
I doubt they're good enough to only have 1 loss this season but yeah they *might* squeak into the playoff based on past history. Not that they'd deserve it based on this season. They catch those kind of lucky breaks but perception out there is the SEC is weak this season and there's more deserving conferences.
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The SEC could very well have 4 teams in the Top 10 by regular season’s end with a combined 42-6 record with Bama, Georgia, Ole Miss, and Tennessee… that’s not weakness.
 
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TN1111 said:
Do I think we can beat Georgia in Neyland, of course I do... but it's paramount we make Beck uncomfortable.

We need to keep them off balance with our play calls and be very aggressive on defense.
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Crowd noise stops Carson, tigers proved that today
 
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Manning4ever said:
We win against mizzo, and ga. Than we when the east. Totally achievable. My question is with 2 losses, and an Sec championship title game. Would we make it into the playoffs. Florida could beat fsu, and Michigan could beat Ohio st.
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Michigan and Ohio State are irrelevant. One will be 12-0 and the other will be 11-1. It’s just a matter of how far the lose of their game drops, which has usually been the 5-6 spot.

The downside for us is that Ole Miss has to beat Georgia for us to have a chance. That means Georgia would not be a Top 2 ranked team when we play them so a win there isn’t as substantial for shooting up the rankings as it would be if they were #1 or #2 when we play.

I think if we beat Mizzou, we are likely to be in the 9-11 range. If Ole Miss beats Georgia, I think our game would be about #6-8 ranked Georgia vs #9-11 ranked Tennessee. I think a win would push us in the 6-8 ranking range. If Bama is 11-1 in Atlanta and we play them, I think they are firmly the #2-3 ranked team because Ohio State/Michigan winner will #1 ranked team going in conference title weekend.

So does being ranked in the #6-8 range with a win over a top 3 ranked Bama for the conference title do enough to boost us over the 11-1 Michigan/oHio state loser, potential 12-1 Washington with a loss in Vegas? I would assume it would make things interesting.

It all depends where we are ranked on Tuesday based on Notre Dame, Missouri, Oklahoma, and hopefully LSU being ranked ahead of us and losing today.
 
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Ideally, we Atleast move inside the Top 15 if LSU is the 4th loss of these.
 

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JMSqb11 said:
Michigan and Ohio State are irrelevant. One will be 12-0 and the other will be 11-1. It’s just a matter of how far the lose of their game drops, which has usually been the 5-6 spot.

The downside for us is that Ole Miss has to beat Georgia for us to have a chance. That means Georgia would not be a Top 2 ranked team when we play them so a win there isn’t as substantial for shooting up the rankings as it would be if they were #1 or #2 when we play.

I think if we beat Mizzou, we are likely to be in the 9-11 range. If Ole Miss beats Georgia, I think our game would be about #6-8 ranked Georgia vs #9-11 ranked Tennessee. I think a win would push us in the 6-8 ranking range. If Bama is 11-1 in Atlanta and we play them, I think they are firmly the #2-3 ranked team because Ohio State/Michigan winner will #1 ranked team going in conference title weekend.

So does being ranked in the #6-8 range with a win over a top 3 ranked Bama for the conference title do enough to boost us over the 11-1 Michigan/oHio state loser, potential 12-1 Washington with a loss in Vegas? I would assume it would make things interesting.

It all depends where we are ranked on Tuesday based on Notre Dame, Missouri, Oklahoma, and hopefully LSU being ranked ahead of us and losing today.
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What if we beat ga?
 
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JMSqb11 said:
What do you mean? For us to have any shot at Atlanta (and subsequently the Playoff), we have to beat Georgia
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What I mean is as a 2 loss team with losses to Florida and Alabama where are we in the big picture, if we beat ga. Don't be so agro bro
 
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Manning4ever said:
What I mean is as a 2 loss team with losses to Florida and Alabama where are we in the big picture, if we beat ga. Don't be so agro bro
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Well I don’t think the Florida loss matters. Because if we beat Bama in Atlanta, that somewhat nullifies our loss to Bama in October. I also think the schedule would help us at the tail end.

When the CFP Week 1 rankings came out, we were #17. So far 3 teams in front of us have lost so we should move into the Top 15 with a likely matchup vs a Top 20 team in Mizzou. Win that and get another team or two in front of us to lose, we could likely be in the Top 10-12 going into a game vs a 1 loss UGA who’s likely ranked 6-8th… beat them and we are likely in the top 6-8 range going into final regular season game.

Ideally we would want to see some 1 loss teams ahead of us lose. This would be Texas, Oregon, Ole Miss (can only lose to Miss State), Penn State should have a loss vs Michigan.
 
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I think we beat a # 16 Mizzou next week. When ga loses to a # 9 Ole miss, and we beat the Dawgs at home, where do you think we rate in the cfp?
 
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jasonvol18 said:
There's nothing crummy about Mizzou and it was quite close. Don't like our chances next week.
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Why you scared? We are a bad matchup for Mizzou who gives up 350/150 pass rush yards per game and are #32 in saragin rankings. Nothing scares me about Mizzou other than they have a coach who knows how to read the game well.
 
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Manning4ever said:
I think we beat a # 16 Mizzou next week. When ga loses to a # 9 Ole miss, and we beat the Dawgs at home, where do you think we rate in the cfp?
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I would imagine we would be ranked somewhere in the 5-8 range going into the Vanderbilt depending on what else happens to the teams ranked ahead of us. Pretty similar to how LSU was ranked last year going into the final week.
 
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