Our play calling/offensive scheme

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Am I the only one who doesn't agree with our current scheme/play calling?

What other teams fit our style? Do we have a more Florida scheme or a Baylor scheme?
 
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I got no complaints with the play calling. Not sure what our scheme is. Seems like a lot of free styling but maybe that's because the qb is running for his life.
 
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Only problem I have with the playcalling is that it is a tad predictable. And we need to fake the jet sweep to Pig more often to keep the D honest so they won't sell out on it every time.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Only problem I have with the playcalling is that it is a tad predictable. And we need to fake the jet sweep to Pig more often to keep the D honest so they won't sell out on it every time.
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The jet sweep we run with Pig is inarguably the least successful offensive play in our football program's history. Please make it stop........
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Only problem I have with the playcalling is that it is a tad predictable. And we need to fake the jet sweep to Pig more often to keep the D honest so they won't sell out on it every time.
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This. I feel like I have a pretty good idea of what play is about to be called most of the time.
 
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Bajakian has had me question several calls and gameplans throughout the year. I liked what I saw Saturday. He mixed it up, went under center, went 2 back, went pistol, went fullback, went full house, went play action deep, threw to the flats, empty backfield qb draw, empty backfield pass, etc, etc.
Still not the best but team still transferring from Chaney's offense to something totally different from head to toe. Not bad for having a true freshman at qb either, imo. Hopefully the playbook continues to open up. Pig's little shovel pass needs to be shelved for a few plays, or just replace it by getting him the ball somewhere else. When he comes in motion, 2 defender attack the edge and he has no room.
Not having a TE threat whatsoever, or at least a good blocker, isn't helping one bit. I don't think that can be pointed out enough. TE should be the safety blanket for a young qb and he doesn't have one.
As far as Jancek, get aggressive. Stop with the building a wall stuff. We aren't bama and our lbs and safeties can't protect the edges or middle of that wall. Fire off the ball, shoot some gaps and let's make some plays in the offensive backfield, or at least make it more difficult on them. No more zone blitzes with our DE's caught in single coverage as well.
And just tell Jaques to not even have contact with the LT. Just go sideways and make someone cut back. Seems like every big qb run the last 2 weeks was right off his edge that he never protects.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Only problem I have with the playcalling is that it is a tad predictable. And we need to fake the jet sweep to Pig more often to keep the D honest so they won't sell out on it every time.
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^This. We need to find other ways to get Pig the ball. The whole stadium could see the Pig sweep coming.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Only problem I have with the playcalling is that it is a tad predictable. And we need to fake the jet sweep to Pig more often to keep the D honest so they won't sell out on it every time.
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I'd like to see us do more wr screens or go ahead and put him in the wild pig. Have to get him the ball. Just doesn't seem like we are getting much out of his jet sweep and losing yards on occasion.
 
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Really there won't be anything that OC can do until another WR emerges next to North. No one is really a threat in the passing game and can't beat one on one coverage. While Pig Howard is fast he's doesn't have elite athleticism(Patterson Athleticism) and needs to improve at the craft of being a WR if he really wants the ball. It's hard to blame the scheme when no one runs clean routes, we have way to many drops, and the O-line keeps getting false starts.
 
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My only problem with the pig sweep is running it to the short side. Give the man some room to run.
 
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I don't know if Bajankian is an SEC caliber OC. Next year will be more telling. I wish we would run less read option and start running a more pro style offense. We were running up Auburns gut and I remember we had a third and one and instead of running between the tackles, Bajakian called a stretch play. Dumb call. I wish we ran an offense more like Stanford, with more screens and wheel routes thrown in.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Bajakian has had me question several calls and gameplans throughout the year. I liked what I saw Saturday. He mixed it up, went under center, went 2 back, went pistol, went fullback, went full house, went play action deep, threw to the flats, empty backfield qb draw, empty backfield pass, etc, etc.
Still not the best but team still transferring from Chaney's offense to something totally different from head to toe. Not bad for having a true freshman at qb either, imo. Hopefully the playbook continues to open up. Pig's little shovel pass needs to be shelved for a few plays, or just replace it by getting him the ball somewhere else. When he comes in motion, 2 defender attack the edge and he has no room.
Not having a TE threat whatsoever, or at least a good blocker, isn't helping one bit. I don't think that can be pointed out enough. TE should be the safety blanket for a young qb and he doesn't have one.
As far as Jancek, get aggressive. Stop with the building a wall stuff. We aren't bama and our lbs and safeties can't protect the edges or middle of that wall. Fire off the ball, shoot some gaps and let's make some plays in the offensive backfield, or at least make it more difficult on them. No more zone blitzes with our DE's caught in single coverage as well.
And just tell Jaques to not even have contact with the LT. Just go sideways and make someone cut back. Seems like every big qb run the last 2 weeks was right off his edge that he never protects.
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How dare you think you know better than the greatest coaching staff of all time :crazy:
 
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I guess my two main gripes would be 1) North not getting the ball on short passes enough on early downs to get YAC opportunities and use his size, and 2) too many passes on long yardage late downs that are slow developing and thrown across the field short of the first down line. Defense gets there in time to stop the first down bc they had so much time to react while the ball is in the air.

Overall it just seems to my amateur eyes that, in addition to predictability, there is a shortage of aggressiveness and plays seem too slow in developing. If you aren't fooling the D then you are left with a talent on talent matchup, which we aren't that likely to win against this schedule.
 
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According to Butch the offense is very scaled back.

I have no problems with the offense except we don't throw down field enough. Too many short passes and runs which allow the defense to load up the box.
 
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Dougie_D said:
Am I the only one who doesn't agree with our current scheme/play calling?

What other teams fit our style? Do we have a more Florida scheme or a Baylor scheme?
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Dougie? LMFAO,its hard taking anything you say seriously! Dougie,Dougie,Dougie ... :eek:lol:
 
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Play calling and offense is good enough to win the next 2.
Unfortunately, not sure about the........
 
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How many OC show tremendous creativity and are extremely multiple with huge inexperience at QB and WR?
 
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VolFootballlover said:
This is not Cincy and when Jones Learns Cincy play calling will not work at UT maybe we hire a play caller!
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This is so dumb. At one time Meyer was calling plays at Utah. Yeah that playcalling didnt work when get got to the SEC?!? At one point, not to long ago, Malzhan was calling plays in high school. Yeah that playcalling isnt working in the SEC?!? It has nothing to do with "Cincy playcalling" not being able to work. With better athletes and more experience at the skill positions the playbook will open up and we will actually have evidence if his playbook works well in the SEC. Using this season as evidence is like using a 3 year olds first drawing as evidence of whether he will be a good artist.
 
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therickbol said:
This is so dumb. At one time Meyer was calling plays at Utah. Yeah that playcalling didnt work when get got to the SEC?!? At one point, not to long ago, Malzhan was calling plays in high school. Yeah that playcalling isnt working in the SEC?!? It has nothing to do with "Cincy playcalling" not being able to work. With better athletes and more experience at the skill positions the playbook will open up and we will actually have evidence if his playbook works well in the SEC. Using this season as evidence is like using a 3 year olds first drawing as evidence of whether he will be a good artist.
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Sorry, man - this is just way too rational for VN.
 
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The offense was not the problem. Auburn was just too fast on the edges for the Pig sweep to work. The Pig sweep should work fine against Vandy and KY.
 
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When we had 3rd and 1, we had two plays to get the one. We predictably handed off to rb over left side both times, short side of field, while Aub was loaded up to stuff it. When our D was in same situation, Marshall faked, kept, and not only got the 1, but a whole lot more.
 
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