oversigning ?

[TENNaciousUTfan]

Not sure where you picked up the idea that you could back count and add to the 28.

Backcounting applies to the annual 25 scholarship limit. You can push your EE's back if you have room in the prior class.

28 refers to the number you can sign to a letter of intent in a particular class. It's a new rule and the number has nothing to do with the 25 scholarship limit.

Where you would get the idea that you could count back on the 28 is a mystery to me.

Hypothetically, even if you could, there is no shortage from a prior year since the system wasn't even in place from last year to create a shortage.

The two limits (25 scholly's) and (28 LOI's) are apples and oranges.

Looks like you are trying to take 2 apples and add them to 28 oranges and make 30 oranges. Doesn't work that way.

Think of 28 as the 25 per season cutoff, but with 3 additional signings as NOTHING but a small buffer, for those that won't academically qualify and such. It really has no bearing on backcounting and EE's.

As Sabanocchio mentioned many times, it ultimately boils down to the total number of scholarships (85)...since we didn't sign a full class last year, and with all the transfers and dismissals, we had a number of scholarships to work with.

After we back count the number available, only then does the 25/28 number come into play...as we are then talking about signing 25/28 that WE PLAN to count for the 2010 class. So, if we count 3 guys in this current class toward 2009, then you remove them from the 25/28 equation...in this case we can and will sign 25 but will have...I believe Sab said it was 3...available to backcount to 09. We can still sign 3 more...as that little buffer we talked about (for academic casualties)....so in total, that would allow us to sign 31.

25 scholarships cutoff per class
+3 backcount for 09
+3 buffer for academic casualties
=31

 

[Smokey 77]

Yes, obviously you want to get as many as can to enroll early and participate in the Spring. The amount that you can backcount is however many short of the 25 enrolled mark you were the previous year. The rest just count towards the current class.


I'm really struggling with understanding what you are trying to say. The situation I described is accurate. If you have room below the 25 enrolled mark in the previous class you can back count that amount of early enrollees and they count toward the previous class. Like I said, I'm 100% positive of this. The max you can sign in any class is 28. The two we can backcount this year would count towards the 09 class and we can still sign 28 more. Obviously only 25 can enroll.

Maybe this helps:
We only signed 23 last year so we can sign two EE to make up that loss. We can sign 28 more this year, per SEC rule, but only 25 of those 28 can enroll. The number of EE does not matter.

 

[Smokey 77]

Think of 28 as the 25 per season cutoff, but with 3 additional signings as NOTHING but a small buffer, for those that won't academically qualify and such. It really has no bearing on backcounting and EE's.

As Sabanocchio mentioned many times, it ultimately boils down to the total number of scholarships (85)...since we didn't sign a full class last year, and with all the transfers and dismissals, we had a number of scholarships to work with.

After we back count the number available, only then does the 25/28 number come into play...as we are then talking about signing 25/28 that WE PLAN to count for the 2010 class. So, if we count 3 guys in this current class toward 2009, then you remove them from the 25/28 equation...in this case we can and will sign 25 but will have...I believe Sab said it was 3...available to backcount to 09. We can still sign 3 more...as that little buffer we talked about (for academic casualties)....so in total, that would allow us to sign 31.

25 scholarships cutoff per class
+3 backcount for 09
+3 buffer for academic casualties
=31

I believe we signed 23 that counted toward last years total, not 22. So the number would be 30.

 

[Sabanocchio]

Maybe this helps:
We only signed 23 last year so we can sign two EE to make up that loss. We can sign 28 more this year, per SEC rule, but only 25 of those 28 can enroll. The number of EE does not matter.

Good explanation, Smokey.

 

[utturff49]

So what about the scholys for those that transferred out like Warren and a few others. Anyway to take advantage of those?

 

[KnoxVegas]

So what about the scholys for those that transferred out like Warren and a few others. Anyway to take advantage of those?

From my understanding it won't allow us to take an additional recruit this year or any other year(above the 25 limit)...but Warren leaving means we have one less scholly player on our 85 man roster...meaning we can get closer to the max next year than we could if he was still on scholly here...