P.u.s.h.

#27
#27
Yeah, I'm not cool with that either. Also, praying for more work or wisdom in your investments seems like playing word games with the big fella. Why beat around the bush? Mo Money!!!
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I can understand praying for help/guidance for one's basic needs to be met. Above that, it's greed and selfishness; not very virtuous, IMO. I really don't think it's of much concern to God whether or not one drives a Porche or a Pinto. Just my feelings.
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#28
#28
I can understand praying for help/guidance for one's basic needs to be met. Above that, it's greed and selfishness; not very virtuous, IMO. I really don't think it's of much concern to God whether or not one drives a Porche or a Pinto. Just my feelings.
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I pray. I pray for "enough" for me to take care of my family. Doesn't mean my effort can lapse, though. That's part of the deal that some people don't grasp.
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#29
#29
I pray. I pray for "enough" for me to take care of my family. Doesn't mean my effort can lapse, though. That's part of the deal that some people don't grasp.
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I have stated the same in the thread. Faith/prayer without actions is useless.
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#30
#30
I consider myslef a Christian, but one thing I won't do is push to pray if they don't want to. I think it is our job, as Christians, to pray for those who don't believe. Those kind of things are important in a Christians eyes, not material things. As far as "PUSH" I don't quite understand. I'm not a big fan of religion and how it's splintered into so many different beliefs. I"m a fan of a church that goes off the Bible, and not what religion teaches. I think "pushing" only draws it further away.
 
#34
#34
I consider myslef a Christian, but one thing I won't do is push to pray if they don't want to. I think it is our job, as Christians, to pray for those who don't believe. Those kind of things are important in a Christians eyes, not material things. As far as "PUSH" I don't quite understand. I'm not a big fan of religion and how it's splintered into so many different beliefs. I"m a fan of a church that goes off the Bible, and not what religion teaches. I think "pushing" only draws it further away.

I will not pressure. Words mean little. The best thing we can do is live a life that makes others take notice and want to emulate. That, to me, is the best witness one can provide.
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#36
#36
I will not pressure. Words mean little. The best thing we can do is live a life that makes others take notice and want to emulate. That, to me, is the best witness one can provide.
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Well said
 
#37
#37

If u would have quoted the whole sentence I said if that is something you are interesyin building. For me personally im not working my whole life with nothing to show for it in the end, and I love giving money generously out of my wealth not bragging that's just my way of doing ministry
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#43
#43
VOLatile said:
...I think you're in the minority with that viewpoint...

You should know better by now. I don't getting anything out of insulting people. Now pullin legs?......
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#47
#47
I will not pressure. Words mean little. The best thing we can do is live a life that makes others take notice and want to emulate. That, to me, is the best witness one can provide.
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:rock:

Very well said.
I do not believe into pressuring anyone into prayer.
It has been my experience that one needs to pray with a humble and sincere heart.

I always pray that I can live my life in a way that others can see the difference God can make in one's life.
 
#48
#48
I started seeing these signs up in church yards and on church signs.

P.U.S.H.
"Pray Until Something Happens"

What's your opinion on this? I'm specifically interested in the opinions of the religious folks on here.

I know the basis doesn't really hurt anyone outside of the one doing it, but I think it's a way to shuck personal responsibility. The only time I see it hurt anyone is homeopathy... which is very, very disturbing.

Disclaimer: I haven't heard a sermon about it, so if anyone has could you fill me in on what's usually discussed?

Love it.
 

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