PAC12 Playing This Year

#26
#26
If the others didn't leave Texas when it was acting all Snow White and the 11 Dwarves, they're not going to leave now.

You mean when 25% of the conference left? And when the Big 12 was left as the only Power 5 conference without a standalone network because Texas unilaterally negotiated with ESPN? And when the Oklahoma, Kansas, and remaining Texas schools only got a decent cut of the media rights pie by getting TCU and WVU to agree to lesser shares of the pie?

The core they have at the moment, minus West Virginia (which remains one of the oddest grafts of the last consolidation wave), are pretty solid.

Every school but Texas and possibly Oklahoma would agree to kill a drifter if it meant they could bail to another conference.
 
#27
#27
You mean when 25% of the conference left? And when the Big 12 was left as the only Power 5 conference without a standalone network because Texas unilaterally negotiated with ESPN? And when the Oklahoma, Kansas, and remaining Texas schools only got a decent cut of the media rights pie by getting TCU and WVU to agree to lesser shares of the pie?

Every school but Texas and possibly Oklahoma would agree to kill a drifter if it meant they could bail to another conference.
You know that other 75% of the conference? The part you're not talking about? The 75% that didn't leave? That's the core of the conference as it exists now. Again: if they didn't leave back when Texas was acting super prima donna, they're not leaving now.

There is no "splinter risk" in the current B12.

I could see the Mountaineers finding another home that fits better at some point. I mean, it's just such a shoe-horn as is. But other than them, the B12 will not shrink. Outside chance it grows, back to 12.
 
#28
#28
Again: if they didn't leave back when Texas was acting super prima donna, they're not leaving now.

Where would they have gone? The schools that were able to get invites split. After Nebraska and Colorado got out, Oklahoma had worked out a deal with the Pac 12 to move themselves, Okie Lite, and the four original Texas schools. But, that fell apart when Texas worked out their deal with ESPN. That led to A&M and Mizzou taking off. With Texas standing pat, where else could any of the other teams get an invite?

As it stands right now, Texas basically operates as an independent inside its own conference, and no other league is going to let them do that. Oklahoma would be attractive, but they would have to separate themselves from Okie Lite, and that brings political issues. No one is going to take both Oklahoma schools. Where else is there any value?

There is no "splinter risk" in the current B12.

That's true for the moment. But the league's media rights deal expires in 2025. There is no way that ESPN is going to re-up the Longhorn Network. Are Texas and OU going to throw their third tier media rights in to sweeten the pot for a standalone conference network? Even if they did, would it be worth it to Disney or Fox?

I could see the Mountaineers finding another home that fits better at some point.

Where's that fit? Which of the remaining big 4 would take them?

Outside chance it grows, back to 12.

Who would they add? They already flirted with expansion a couple of years back. The candidates were so awful that Fox and ESPN paid the league a few extra million to avoid having to pay $20MM+ to Houston, Memphis, or Cincinnati.

The Big XII is only going to last as long as Texas needs it to last. If the media rights deal is greener in some other yard come 2025, Texas is gone, and the Big XII either drops to G5 status or dies all together.
 
#29
#29
The other conferences will have 8 games under their belt by 6 Nov. That means the PAC 12 won't finish until mid December-7 games. Does that mean 7 regular season games then a conference playoff? Each division has 6 teams-guess that means 5 division game and at least 1 or 2 inter division games.
I'll have PAC 12 games added to my pick'em as of 6 Nov.
 
#33
#33
First, it certainly does feel like a flip flop by the PAC-12 commissioner.

Second, one of the comments Kirk Herbstreit made on game day about his sons who play at Clemson made a bit of sense, he basically said that he felt his kids would be safer inside the controlled team environment than they would simply out in the uncontrolled public. So maybe the programs playing football will actually be providing a safer place for these kids. Now, we'll have to wait and see. Hope Kirk is right
He also said there’d be no season this year.
 

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