Pansy Basketball

[Orange Maniac]

Then pull her scholarship, or let her ride the pines. It's poison for a team as well as herself. What WNBA team would want her?

Now you're getting a little carried away. Co-SEC player of the year and 3rd team All America team and you are suggesting pulling her scholly. Do people understand how many games we won because of Simmons. Yes, she does disappear at tourney time, but the team wouldn't be in the position they were without her. Let's see how she responds in her senior year. She didn't give up 86 points all alone on defense. The TEAM did. That's what lost the game.

 

[Convoluted]

Now you're getting a little carried away. Co-SEC player of the year and 3rd team All America team and you are suggesting pulling her scholly. Do people understand how many games we won because of Simmons. Yes, she does disappear at tourney time, but the team wouldn't be in the position they were without her. Let's see how she responds in her senior year. She didn't give up 86 points all alone on defense. The TEAM did. That's what lost the game.

Well, Maybe. I'm just saying something has to be done to get through to her about taking the bad shots and passes and being part of the team.

 

[508mikey]

Warlick needs lasik surgery -- those glasses are ugly

 

[the_great_pumpkin]

Warlick needs lasik surgery -- those glasses are ugly

Now that's a Special Ed comment.

 

[armchair]

We had a talented team with some very experienced players in Spani and Simmons--and Massengale, too, with two full years of starting--and they all have consistently played TERRIBLE in big games. Part of that, maybe even a lot of that, is coaching. If you are playing for Tennessee and wilt under the lights in big games, then you should be sitting on the bench. It's one thing to get beat--but our players were in a full panic mode practically from the start of the game. Is wasn't that we were just missing shots--we were in a panic, choking. I can perhaps see players getting tight very late in big games, but not in the first 5 minutes.

Warlick should have benched Simmons early on. I love Simmons for her passion, I do--if she could transfer about a 1/3 of her passion to Massengale, they'd both be great. But Simmons has become a problem in that she is consistently horrible in big games. Every time we face a big-time opponent, you can pretty much count on her to shoot 4 for 14 and turn the ball over. She's been doing this for two years--she was 1 for 15 (!) against Oklahoma. Same with Spani. Their poor shooting killed us in the big games for two years--mostly because they couldn't deal with the pressure.

At the very least, Warlick has got to start recruiting better guards--tougher, more athletic guards who can play some defense. That was another problem with our perimeter players. I don't mean to be too hard on the players: They've are/have been great Vols. But I've followed our women's team for a long time and it's fairly shocking to see how we've lost our big-game mojo. The positive spin is that we have been in a transition period: Summitt coached too long, started missing pretty badly on recruits over the last decade and then got sick. Holly has done a good job with recruiting, but we gotta get better coaching. McGraw at Notre Dame coaches circles around our group--they play MUCH smarter basketball than our group. Geno out-recruits us and his kids are tough--he's always been a smart-aleck male version of Summitt. And there are a LOT of good coaches out there now.

 

[golf437]

Warlick needs lasik surgery -- those glasses are ugly

A real classless post.

 

[Orange Maniac]

We had a talented team with some very experienced players in Spani and Simmons--and Massengale, too, with two full years of starting--and they all have consistently played TERRIBLE in big games. Part of that, maybe even a lot of that, is coaching. If you are playing for Tennessee and wilt under the lights in big games, then you should be sitting on the bench. It's one thing to get beat--but our players were in a full panic mode practically from the start of the game. Is wasn't that we were just missing shots--we were in a panic, choking. I can perhaps see players getting tight very late in big games, but not in the first 5 minutes.

Warlick should have benched Simmons early on. I love Simmons for her passion, I do--if she could transfer about a 1/3 of her passion to Massengale, they'd both be great. But Simmons has become a problem in that she is consistently horrible in big games. Every time we face a big-time opponent, you can pretty much count on her to shoot 4 for 14 and turn the ball over. She's been doing this for two years--she was 1 for 15 (!) against Oklahoma. Same with Spani. Their poor shooting killed us in the big games for two years--mostly because they couldn't deal with the pressure.

At the very least, Warlick has got to start recruiting better guards--tougher, more athletic guards who can play some defense. That was another problem with our perimeter players. I don't mean to be too hard on the players: They've are/have been great Vols. But I've followed our women's team for a long time and it's fairly shocking to see how we've lost our big-game mojo. The positive spin is that we have been in a transition period: Summitt coached too long, started missing pretty badly on recruits over the last decade and then got sick. Holly has done a good job with recruiting, but we gotta get better coaching. McGraw at Notre Dame coaches circles around our group--they play MUCH smarter basketball than our group. Geno out-recruits us and his kids are tough--he's always been a smart-aleck male version of Summitt. And there are a LOT of good coaches out there now.

What was McGraw's record against us before she got Diggins. That's all I need to say about that. Last I checked, Geno only has 7 titles, not 8. I don't know that I would say he has out recruited us but it has been nip and tuck with him. He wins some. We win some. I do think he has outcoached our staff the last few years and even with that, McGraw has his number the last few games. So what's the difference? Did McGraw suddenly become a coaching genius. Doubt it. I think people just need to calm down and let Holly and HER STAFF get to work. I have said for years that when we get a team that puts pressure on us, we fold. The exception to that is the teams that had a strong, take no ish leader, and I'm not talking about coaches. We must get better point guard play and I think we will. The little bit we got to see Carter showed a toughness and determination that A Mass doesn't have. I've said all along that REL is a better 2 than a 1. Holly is off to a good start. Let's see what she can do. I think we will be pleasantly surprised. We overachieved according to what every other coach and sportswriter thought we would do this year. The only people that think we underachieved is our own fans. How spoiled we have become. No one wins them all. Not me, not you, not anybody. I was frustrated as much as anyone at the end, but, it is what it is. The team did O.K. Let's get them next year! GO LADY VOLS!!!

 

[508mikey]

A real classless post.

said the glasses not her - she looks really good without them - todays womens glasses look like the ones worn in the early 70s, because some hippie designers cant think of anything more. BTW this thread calling the LV pansy basketball is classless

 

[508mikey]

What was McGraw's record against us before she got Diggins. That's all I need to say about that. Last I checked, Geno only has 7 titles, not 8. I don't know that I would say he has out recruited us but it has been nip and tuck with him. He wins some. We win some. I do think he has outcoached our staff the last few years and even with that, McGraw has his number the last few games. So what's the difference? Did McGraw suddenly become a coaching genius. Doubt it. I think people just need to calm down and let Holly and HER STAFF get to work. I have said for years that when we get a team that puts pressure on us, we fold. The exception to that is the teams that had a strong, take no ish leader, and I'm not talking about coaches. We must get better point guard play and I think we will. The little bit we got to see Carter showed a toughness and determination that A Mass doesn't have. I've said all along that REL is a better 2 than a 1. Holly is off to a good start. Let's see what she can do. I think we will be pleasantly surprised. We overachieved according to what every other coach and sportswriter thought we would do this year. The only people that think we underachieved is our own fans. How spoiled we have become. No one wins them all. Not me, not you, not anybody. I was frustrated as much as anyone at the end, but, it is what it is. The team did O.K. Let's get them next year! GO LADY VOLS!!!

No doubt there - had the mens team made the EE and lost -- people would still be buying the Tshirts weeks after it.

 

[Convoluted]

What was McGraw's record against us before she got Diggins. That's all I need to say about that. Last I checked, Geno only has 7 titles, not 8. I don't know that I would say he has out recruited us but it has been nip and tuck with him. He wins some. We win some. I do think he has outcoached our staff the last few years and even with that, McGraw has his number the last few games. So what's the difference? Did McGraw suddenly become a coaching genius. Doubt it. I think people just need to calm down and let Holly and HER STAFF get to work. I have said for years that when we get a team that puts pressure on us, we fold. The exception to that is the teams that had a strong, take no ish leader, and I'm not talking about coaches. We must get better point guard play and I think we will. The little bit we got to see Carter showed a toughness and determination that A Mass doesn't have. I've said all along that REL is a better 2 than a 1. Holly is off to a good start. Let's see what she can do. I think we will be pleasantly surprised. We overachieved according to what every other coach and sportswriter thought we would do this year. The only people that think we underachieved is our own fans. How spoiled we have become. No one wins them all. Not me, not you, not anybody. I was frustrated as much as anyone at the end, but, it is what it is. The team did O.K. Let's get them next year! GO LADY VOLS!!!

Be honest about Pat’s 8 NCs vs. Geno’s 7. Pat had an 11 year head start on Geno, so you’ll have to wait another 11 years to honestly make that comparison. But, if we’re going to falsify that stat, I guess this is a good time to do it, because next week, that boast may no longer be valid. Odds are good that either Muffet or Geno will be NC this year.

A more accurate measure of Pat vs. Geno is winning percentage, and Geno is ahead on that one. Pat has many legitimate accomplishments that can be brought forth. Trying to boost her accomplishments erroneously does her reputation no good.

McGraw is coach of the year, so she must be doing something right. Last year she lost 3 key starters and, like the Lady Vols, wasn’t expected to do much. Her team excelled to a much higher level than the LVs. She deserves all the praise she’s received. Her incoming class next year is great, so we’ll see how that goes. I don’t like ND, but I do like to be objective.

I don’t think Holly is a great coach, but she's more that adequate. The team did well this year. No complaints. However, looking forward, I see clouds on the horizon. Now is the time to fix it. On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with being in the top 25 every year. Most teams would be more than happy with that. Enjoy!

 

[Voluble2]

Yeah, but if you take out of Geno's win column the titles he got from a recruit whose mother found herself suddenly enriched then his record doesn't look quite so impressive. That certainly helped accelerate things for him and kept UT from transitioning from having Parker, who was the most dominant player in the game, to having the next most dominant player in the game. How would the comparative records have looked then? How would that have effected recruiting going forward?

I think Geno is likely the better coach but it is hard to know with what all went on.

And yeah, at this point coaching is probably a bit overrated. Most coaches are pretty equal towards the top of the ladder. The difference comes in with recruiting and chemistry. ND has good chemistry and a dominant player with Diggins. Baylor had a dominant player but poor chemistry. We will see what UConn has. They are loaded with top talent so they should always win on paper.

Basketball is one of those games where the right combination of players can play much better than the sum of the parts. Louisville did that this year. It will be a different team next year... just like the men's tournament. We have to hope the new class coming in are the right mixture of ingredients to get us up another rung.

Holly did fine this year. Next year more will, and should, be expected. I was skeptical, but she got about all she could out of this team except at the end. Both she and the team could have turned in a better performance against Louisville. But then again, Baylor suffered the same fate so we likely just ran into the wrong buzzsaw at the wrong time.

The other thing to note is that the season had a pair of bookends. The new crew was nervous and tentative in their opener and lost. At the end they were in a new situation again and succumbed to the jitters and doubt. Hopefully, they will learn as much from the loss at the end as they did the beginning and get similarly improved results the next time they are in that situation.

 

[Orange Maniac]

Be honest about Pat’s 8 NCs vs. Geno’s 7. Pat had an 11 year head start on Geno, so you’ll have to wait another 11 years to honestly make that comparison. But, if we’re going to falsify that stat, I guess this is a good time to do it, because next week, that boast may no longer be valid. Odds are good that either Muffet or Geno will be NC this year.

A more accurate measure of Pat vs. Geno is winning percentage, and Geno is ahead on that one. Pat has many legitimate accomplishments that can be brought forth. Trying to boost her accomplishments erroneously does her reputation no good.

McGraw is coach of the year, so she must be doing something right. Last year she lost 3 key starters and, like the Lady Vols, wasn’t expected to do much. Her team excelled to a much higher level than the LVs. She deserves all the praise she’s received. Her incoming class next year is great, so we’ll see how that goes. I don’t like ND, but I do like to be objective.

I don’t think Holly is a great coach, but she's more that adequate. The team did well this year. No complaints. However, looking forward, I see clouds on the horizon. Now is the time to fix it. On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with being in the top 25 every year. Most teams would be more than happy with that. Enjoy!

I'm not trying to falsify a stat or boost her accomplishments erroneously as you stated. I agree that Geno has accomplished more in a shorter time frame than Pat did and I fully expect UCONN to win it all this year. I was trying to point out that we compete with them on a level playing field for the most part. I do give Mcgraw credit for what she has done but if you want to be honest, look at her record pre-Diggins. We owned ND. That's a fact. We will see how she does next year. It will be good but I bet nothing like the last couple of years. I'm not sure how anybody can tell if Holly is just an adequate coach or if she is a great coach. There is not enough data on that yet to make a judgement but a lot of people already have there minds made up. How can anyone say they see clouds on the horizon. Where are the indications of that? The fact is, no one knows. I like what I've seen from her this year. Can she improve. Definitely. The most glaring weakness I've seen is the hesitancy to call a time out to kill the opposing team's run. She needs to be more aggressive in that area. All this is just my opinion. I may be right and I may be wrong, but that's the way I see things.

 

[VolEire]

Warlick needs lasik surgery -- those glasses are ugly

The only thing ugly is this post. Lack of class as noted before.

 

[Escape Goat]

It was the elite 8 btw. They beat Baylor also, not a bad résumé for a team that hasn't won anything.

Horse crap!!!!! These girls mailed it in.

Pathetic performance. I don't think Holly is to blame though. This current crop is pretty much garbage as far as typical UT women are concerned. Holly is bringing in a great group of athletes that will bring decency back to this program. Damn. How the mighty have fallen. I never thought I would see such GARBAGE out of a UT lady Vol team.

 

[Escape Goat]

Besides Spani. She is far from garbage.

But she was far from advertised.

 

[Voluble2]

Can she improve. Definitely. The most glaring weakness I've seen is the hesitancy to call a time out to kill the opposing team's run. She needs to be more aggressive in that area. All this is just my opinion. I may be right and I may be wrong, but that's the way I see things.

Yes, I pointed this out during the season as well. When her kids are playing poorly or scared, as they were in the Louisville game, she needs to get them on the sideline and reset them mentally.

I also think we need to make a list of each player's greatest fear and have them go out and confront it during the off season so that they get used to being in situations that make them uncomfortable and learn how to overcome those thoughts. I doubt one exposure would be enough, but if they made a habit of confronting such things head-on maybe it would carry over to the court.

Something has to be done to improve their performance under pressure in big game situations. They are fairly resilient when there isn't so much on the line.

 

[508mikey]

Yes, I pointed this out during the season as well. When her kids are playing poorly or scared, as they were in the Louisville game, she needs to get them on the sideline and reset them mentally.

I also think we need to make a list of each player's greatest fear and have them go out and confront it during the off season so that they get used to being in situations that make them uncomfortable and learn how to overcome those thoughts. I doubt one exposure would be enough, but if they made a habit of confronting such things head-on maybe it would carry over to the court.

Something has to be done to improve their performance under pressure in big game situations. They are fairly resilient when there isn't so much on the line.

Use the icy cold CPS stare -- oh wait !

 

[armchair]

Warlick should have called a TO at the four-minute mark and sat a couple of players and chewed some butt--regroup. Instead, she let our panicky players continue to play panicky basketball and we fell farther behind. When your team is rattled, you have to stop play and regroup. Huge mistake by her.

I have the highest respect for PS, but Geno was a better coach for the most part, IMO. If you gave each of them the same players (in theory, of course), I'm pretty sure Geno would win, mostly because his team's typically (not always) have a better half-court offense than UT did under PS, and they absolutely passed the ball better. PS's teams were always strangely mediocre at moving the ball. PS was a fanatic about defense and rebounding, but when the game advanced she got left behind offensively. (That was why we won so many ugly games, blue-chip recruits stumbling around against teams we should have beaten by 25. Any one recall that game against Rutgers for the title? We won it, but whew...very ugly.) We won our share of games against Ct., especially during the Parker years when geno's talent level was a bit down, but if you have each of them equal talent I think geno would prevail. The game that did it for me was the year when Taurasi was a senior and we played them in the title game, as I recall. We had an experienced team, Ct. had the Taurasi and four young players--and they beat us. I think the leadership point is true: You gotta have some tough-minded leaders on the court. In that respect Taurasi was a beast. We haven't had anybody remotely like her in a long time. Williams was our leader, to a degree, but she was a spot player until this year. Spani wasn't quite it. Earlier, Stricklin should have been a leader but wasn't--she seemed to have little passion for the game. (Massengale seems too much the same, alas.)

Our problems in recent years were twofold: PS lost her edge and our recruiting fell off noticeably. Really, had PS not landed Parker we would be looking at a LONG stretch without a title. After the great '98 team, our best ever, we had a 9-year drought before Parker came and saved us. After she left, we fell off again. We've been getting highly-rated prospects, but in too many cases the wrong ones--we were a very big slow team for a few years, and our guard play really got pedestrian. Hell, we didn't even have a point guard for two years! Astounding. And there were some injuries, which every team has. Baugh seemed destined to be an excellent player and lost most of her career to bad knees.

I really liked this team because, unlike so many previous UT squads, this team was good offensively and could shoot--except when we got to a big game. But we were pretty bad defensively. Notre Dame embarrassed us this year--must have scored 20 baskets on layups. I thought after Oklahoma game that we had a decent chance to win the championship. The team probably played its best basketball of the year in the first half of that game, and then baylor got beat. We had two very beatable teams in Louisville and Cal before a title matchup with either ND or Ct--and while we would have been the underdog, you never know. Ct. is deep and talented but also young, and their big girl is banged up. ND is good--very smart team--but not exactly teeming with amazing talent. We had a chance--and just to get back to the Final Four would have been a major boost. And then we came out and played scared. Uggh. We should be good next year, but I think geno gets back nearly everybody next year. Warlick has really got to crank up the guard recruiting: there is no reason why we shouldn't have a minimum of three GOOD, athletic guards on this team every year. You have to have three at a MINIMUM. We lost Carter this year and we were left with two guards--one good and one who is skilled but poor defensively and an underachiever, so far, offensively. Heck, we should be playing uptempo with four guards a game.

 

[508mikey]

Warlick should have called a TO at the four-minute mark and sat a couple of players and chewed some butt--regroup. Instead, she let our panicky players continue to play panicky basketball and we fell farther behind. When your team is rattled, you have to stop play and regroup. Huge mistake by her.

I have the highest respect for PS, but Geno was a better coach for the most part, IMO. If you gave each of them the same players (in theory, of course), I'm pretty sure Geno would win, mostly because his team's typically (not always) have a better half-court offense than UT did under PS, and they absolutely passed the ball better. PS's teams were always strangely mediocre at moving the ball. PS was a fanatic about defense and rebounding, but when the game advanced she got left behind offensively. (That was why we won so many ugly games, blue-chip recruits stumbling around against teams we should have beaten by 25. Any one recall that game against Rutgers for the title? We won it, but whew...very ugly.) We won our share of games against Ct., especially during the Parker years when geno's talent level was a bit down, but if you have each of them equal talent I think geno would prevail. The game that did it for me was the year when Taurasi was a senior and we played them in the title game, as I recall. We had an experienced team, Ct. had the Taurasi and four young players--and they beat us. I think the leadership point is true: You gotta have some tough-minded leaders on the court. In that respect Taurasi was a beast. We haven't had anybody remotely like her in a long time. Williams was our leader, to a degree, but she was a spot player until this year. Spani wasn't quite it. Earlier, Stricklin should have been a leader but wasn't--she seemed to have little passion for the game. (Massengale seems too much the same, alas.)

Our problems in recent years were twofold: PS lost her edge and our recruiting fell off noticeably. Really, had PS not landed Parker we would be looking at a LONG stretch without a title. After the great '98 team, our best ever, we had a 9-year drought before Parker came and saved us. After she left, we fell off again. We've been getting highly-rated prospects, but in too many cases the wrong ones--we were a very big slow team for a few years, and our guard play really got pedestrian. Hell, we didn't even have a point guard for two years! Astounding. And there were some injuries, which every team has. Baugh seemed destined to be an excellent player and lost most of her career to bad knees.

I really liked this team because, unlike so many previous UT squads, this team was good offensively and could shoot--except when we got to a big game. But we were pretty bad defensively. Notre Dame embarrassed us this year--must have scored 20 baskets on layups. I thought after Oklahoma game that we had a decent chance to win the championship. The team probably played its best basketball of the year in the first half of that game, and then baylor got beat. We had two very beatable teams in Louisville and Cal before a title matchup with either ND or Ct--and while we would have been the underdog, you never know. Ct. is deep and talented but also young, and their big girl is banged up. ND is good--very smart team--but not exactly teeming with amazing talent. We had a chance--and just to get back to the Final Four would have been a major boost. And then we came out and played scared. Uggh. We should be good next year, but I think geno gets back nearly everybody next year. Warlick has really got to crank up the guard recruiting: there is no reason why we shouldn't have a minimum of three GOOD, athletic guards on this team every year. You have to have three at a MINIMUM. We lost Carter this year and we were left with two guards--one good and one who is skilled but poor defensively and an underachiever, so far, offensively. Heck, we should be playing uptempo with four guards a game.

And I thought the mens team had problems :ermm:

 

[Orange Maniac]

Warlick should have called a TO at the four-minute mark and sat a couple of players and chewed some butt--regroup. Instead, she let our panicky players continue to play panicky basketball and we fell farther behind. When your team is rattled, you have to stop play and regroup. Huge mistake by her.

I have the highest respect for PS, but Geno was a better coach for the most part, IMO. If you gave each of them the same players (in theory, of course), I'm pretty sure Geno would win, mostly because his team's typically (not always) have a better half-court offense than UT did under PS, and they absolutely passed the ball better. PS's teams were always strangely mediocre at moving the ball. PS was a fanatic about defense and rebounding, but when the game advanced she got left behind offensively. (That was why we won so many ugly games, blue-chip recruits stumbling around against teams we should have beaten by 25. Any one recall that game against Rutgers for the title? We won it, but whew...very ugly.) We won our share of games against Ct., especially during the Parker years when geno's talent level was a bit down, but if you have each of them equal talent I think geno would prevail. The game that did it for me was the year when Taurasi was a senior and we played them in the title game, as I recall. We had an experienced team, Ct. had the Taurasi and four young players--and they beat us. I think the leadership point is true: You gotta have some tough-minded leaders on the court. In that respect Taurasi was a beast. We haven't had anybody remotely like her in a long time. Williams was our leader, to a degree, but she was a spot player until this year. Spani wasn't quite it. Earlier, Stricklin should have been a leader but wasn't--she seemed to have little passion for the game. (Massengale seems too much the same, alas.)

Our problems in recent years were twofold: PS lost her edge and our recruiting fell off noticeably. Really, had PS not landed Parker we would be looking at a LONG stretch without a title. After the great '98 team, our best ever, we had a 9-year drought before Parker came and saved us. After she left, we fell off again. We've been getting highly-rated prospects, but in too many cases the wrong ones--we were a very big slow team for a few years, and our guard play really got pedestrian. Hell, we didn't even have a point guard for two years! Astounding. And there were some injuries, which every team has. Baugh seemed destined to be an excellent player and lost most of her career to bad knees.

I really liked this team because, unlike so many previous UT squads, this team was good offensively and could shoot--except when we got to a big game. But we were pretty bad defensively. Notre Dame embarrassed us this year--must have scored 20 baskets on layups. I thought after Oklahoma game that we had a decent chance to win the championship. The team probably played its best basketball of the year in the first half of that game, and then baylor got beat. We had two very beatable teams in Louisville and Cal before a title matchup with either ND or Ct--and while we would have been the underdog, you never know. Ct. is deep and talented but also young, and their big girl is banged up. ND is good--very smart team--but not exactly teeming with amazing talent. We had a chance--and just to get back to the Final Four would have been a major boost. And then we came out and played scared. Uggh. We should be good next year, but I think geno gets back nearly everybody next year. Warlick has really got to crank up the guard recruiting: there is no reason why we shouldn't have a minimum of three GOOD, athletic guards on this team every year. You have to have three at a MINIMUM. We lost Carter this year and we were left with two guards--one good and one who is skilled but poor defensively and an underachiever, so far, offensively. Heck, we should be playing uptempo with four guards a game.

I agree with every word of this. I love Pat and what she has done but I've always said she wasn't the best coach out there. I was at the game you talked about with Taurasi and it seemed like the program took a downhill slide until Parker. I agree we need better PG play. We need somebody with an attitude like Shoni Schimmel. We are way too passive. The point that stood out to me during the last game was the sideline reporter said Holly was stressing the need to penetrate and be aggressive. They came out of the timeout and Massengale made no attempt to penetrate nor did anyone else. We passed it around the perimeter and missed a long three. That I just don't understand. We have the players to dominate most teams if we collapse the defense and learn how to pass the ball to a player in the same color jersey. I need to quit before I get frustrated again. Let's get 'em next year. GO LADY VOLS!!

 

[AllforTenn]

I like your positive attitude. It will help us feel good about ourselves until next year when reality sets in.

Getting the #1 player is not an automatic pathway to success. Look at Elizabeth Williams. She's turning out not to be as great as expected. Even the highly touted, experienced, all everything Breanna Stewart was mediocre for much of the season.

I don't have the answer, but the Lady Vols are slipping bit by bit each year. The great recruits are going elsewhere at an ever increasing rate. We are being slowly forgotten and I don't have a clue as to what can be done about it.

You don't have a clue as to anything, as usual.

 

[AllforTenn]

Horse crap!!!!! These girls mailed it in.

Pathetic performance. I don't think Holly is to blame though. This current crop is pretty much garbage as far as typical UT women are concerned. Holly is bringing in a great group of athletes that will bring decency back to this program. Damn. How the mighty have fallen. I never thought I would see such GARBAGE out of a UT lady Vol team.

Your comments are garbage. Obviously you are blind, deaf and DUMB.

 

[orangeroxie]

What are UT's options for another coach? The final four coaches aren't about to go anywhere and of the rest from the elite 8, Holly is by far the best. I sure would not want to see the ball-slapper master coach, or the cry baby candy coach at UT. Andy is decent, but he isn't leaving GA either. Let's give Holly a chance here.
As for our team's pathetic performance, I agree with all the other comments about lack of will on the court. It was unbelievable to watch. I think PS said one year that you can't teach desire. I agree with that. They have the talent, but not the will to win.
Maybe they should watch the UCONN women play. I know, I know. I am no Geno fan, but if you watch his teams, they play with authority. They pass the ball like they mean it. They don't stand around with 'duh' looks on their faces, and when somebody passes them the ball, they look happy to get it. And his teams always have a good defense AND a good offense proving it is possible to do both unlike what has been preached at UT for a long time.
Here is wishing the team the best for working hard this summer and getting tougher mentally for next year. And maybe the fans will stay behind them and give them the boost they need right now.

 

[508mikey]

What are UT's options for another coach? The final four coaches aren't about to go anywhere and of the rest from the elite 8, Holly is by far the best. I sure would not want to see the ball-slapper master coach, or the cry baby candy coach at UT. Andy is decent, but he isn't leaving GA either. Let's give Holly a chance here.
As for our team's pathetic performance, I agree with all the other comments about lack of will on the court. It was unbelievable to watch. I think PS said one year that you can't teach desire. I agree with that. They have the talent, but not the will to win.
Maybe they should watch the UCONN women play. I know, I know. I am no Geno fan, but if you watch his teams, they play with authority. They pass the ball like they mean it. They don't stand around with 'duh' looks on their faces, and when somebody passes them the ball, they look happy to get it. And his teams always have a good defense AND a good offense proving it is possible to do both unlike what has been preached at UT for a long time.
Here is wishing the team the best for working hard this summer and getting tougher mentally for next year. And maybe the fans will stay behind them and give them the boost they need right now.

Louisville was fast and out of control --it was a playground game for them and it caught UT off guard just like it did Baylor --- for the mens see FGCS same type of play only the Gators were ready for it. I dont put all the blame on HW - the scouts did a poor job -- yeah anyone ever blame those guys ? Poor scouting causes alot of losses.