Pat Forde still at it, Vol fans = disingenuous, A&M = honest

[Volprofch05]

I post a screenshot so that you won’t need to click on the link

 

[BleedOrange16]

 

[Zues1]

Don't care what Forde has to say.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

In hindsight, we may have been better off hiring Schiano.

 

[amaralfan1]

I love how people like Forde think Vol fans concocted the Schiano story out of thin air. It's like they forgot the breathless reporting by the same sports journalists like Forde back in 2012/2013.
Is Forde saying we would get a pass if we had just complained Schiano wasn't good enough (which was and remains the case)?

 

[amaralfan1]

In hindsight, we may have been better off hiring Schiano.

I have serious doubts. Schiano would have been good enough to rack up 6-8 wins a season (maybe an occasional 9 win season) and we would be stuck with him for a decade.

 

[VolNExile]

I have serious doubts. Schiano would have been good enough to rack up 6-8 wins a season (maybe an occasional 9 win season) and we would be stuck with him for a decade.

Yeah, it's a weird angle, but hiring a just-good-enough-to-not-fire coach could be a long, slow, miserable death.

At least hiring fantabulous disasters moves you on down the path a bit more briskly!

 

[volinbham]

Forde made a stupid hot take back then and has to back it up now.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I have serious doubts. Schiano would have been good enough to rack up 6-8 wins a season (maybe an occasional 9 win season) and we would be stuck with him for a decade.

I don’t know. With the resources here as opposed to what he has at Rutgers?? I am not so sure. Also, we wouldn’t have been forever labeled as cheaters. How do we know he wouldn’t have won big here?

 

[Vol Farmer]

In hindsight, we may have been better off hiring Schiano.

 

[Vol Farmer]

You know you’ll get flamed for that

 

[amaralfan1]

I don’t know. With the resources here as opposed to what he has at Rutgers?? I am not so sure. Also, we wouldn’t have been forever labeled as cheaters. How do we know he wouldn’t have won big here?

I think most of the college football world has moved on from (or even forgotten all about) the three year Pruitt reign. All you need to know about Schiano is that OSU didn't even consider him as the replacement for Urban. They went with someone who had never been a head coach. If he wasn't good enough for OSU, it's insane to think he would work out in the much more difficult SEC.

 

[OrangeVolMan]

In hindsight, we may have been better off hiring Schiano.

Are you serious. Based on what. I forgot you are just being an …hole as usual.

 

[stolitonic]

Yeah, it's a weird angle, but hiring a just-good-enough-to-not-fire coach could be a long, slow, miserable death.

At least hiring fantabulous disasters moves you on down the path a bit more briskly!

Amen to that. We are Tennessee. We do disasters like no others !!

 

[HollowaytoSeivers]

Amen to that. We are Tennessee. We do disasters like no others !!

Which is why, BVS is very real.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

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Unfortunately he's right. I was never a fan of how we used that angle.

We didn't want him because he was another Butch-level coach and we'd had enough of it. If he was a coach with a .800 win percentage and 2 natty's we all would have been yelling "He had nothing to do with the Sandusky case!"

It's the harsh truth, but all's well that ends well.

 

[butchna]

Unfortunately he's right. I was never a fan of how we used that angle.

We didn't want him because he was another Butch-level coach and we'd had enough of it. If he was a coach with a .800 win percentage and 2 natty's we all would have been yelling "He had nothing to do with the Sandusky case!"

It's the harsh truth, but all's well that ends well.

Acting like the same talking heads wouldn’t have rehashed it and opposing coaches wouldn’t have utilized it for negative recruiting is harsh DELUSION.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I have serious doubts. Schiano would have been good enough to rack up 6-8 wins a season (maybe an occasional 9 win season) and we would be stuck with him for a decade.

In the long run, Schiano would have been worse, because he would have been harder to get rid of. He probably would have been consistently 7-5 .... and won just enough to keep his job. Old school hard a$$es are not good fits for Tennessee. He would not have recruited well here at all. It was a terrible fit.

As for Forde, not all Tennessee fans upset with the hire of Schiano were invoking the Sandusky scandal. Forde is mostly just referring to some social media posts, but that in no way speaks for an entire fan base as large as Tennessee's.

 

[DarkVolder]

I don’t know. With the resources here as opposed to what he has at Rutgers?? I am not so sure. Also, we wouldn’t have been forever labeled as cheaters. How do we know he wouldn’t have won big here?

Could he have recruited well enough here? Especially in the south

 

[Jimmy Football]

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There ya go, @butchna … the best he could come up with was special pleading.

“They’re weren’t 100% the same, so one was fine and the other was reprehensible.”

Not that I expected better from Forde. Complete hack.

 

[VolNExile]

In the long run, Schiano would have been worse, because he would have been harder to get rid of. He probably would have been consistently 7-5 .... and won just enough to keep his job. Old school hard a$$es are not good fits for Tennessee. He would not have recruited well here at all. It was a terrible fit.

As for Forde, not all Tennessee fans upset with the hire of Schiano were invoking the Sandusky scandal. Forde is mostly just referring to some social media posts, but that in no way speaks for an entire fan base as large as Tennessee's.

Same ole lazy-ass reporting

 

[BowlBrother85]

Same ole lazy-ass reporting

Yes .... Lazy, unprofessional and hypocritical is how I would describe Pat Forde.

He has his biases, and customizes his columns around them .... often with glaring inconsistencies. He was highly critical of Tennessee's fan base (who he obviously hates) a year ago for rushing the field after beating Alabama .... but when Louisville fans (who he loves) did the same thing vs Notre Dame this season, he commended them for the "wild scene," they had created.

I'm sure he enjoys the attention he gets from us. We really should just ignore the a$$hole.

 

[DiderotsGhost]

I have serious doubts. Schiano would have been good enough to rack up 6-8 wins a season (maybe an occasional 9 win season) and we would be stuck with him for a decade.

No.

He would've done worse than Pruitt. The only question is whether he would've been fired in 2020 (like Pruitt) or 2021.

I also think for all of Pruitt's flaws, he probably brought in better people. We don't get Hooker, Hyatt, or Tillman with Schiano. Jauan Jennings probably never gets back onto the team. Pruitt was bad at cheating and had extremely outdated views on offense (part of the reason Fulmer liked him so much), but Schiano is just "bad".

Also, we still have the same QB. JG is from New Jersey and was friendly with Schiano, so he's still probably QB1 from '18-20; just with fewer receiving weapons.

Schiano's "I'm a Jersey guy" schtick was also never going to work in East Tennessee. Absolutely terrible fit even if you ignore the fact that he's a complete scumbag.

 

[UTK]

Let’s be real, vol fans flipped their **** because they knew it would be a terrible hire. Some try to justify it with the Penn state stuff but most of us were just against the hire.

 

[feathersax]

Don't care what Forde has to say.

Never clicked on a Forde article, never will.