Patterson comparison

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hndog609 said:
Actually Johnson has gone sub-10.3 in the 100m and sub-6.7 in the 60m so Johnson is actually faster. OTOH Patterson is a good deal more elusive in the open field and is still very, very fleet. As a matter of actually playing the game of football I'd take the latter.
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Wait, don't you mean "the former"? Or are you actually saying you would rather have Cordarelle Patterson than Andre Johnson?
 
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oregonvol said:
Wait, don't you mean "the former"? Or are you actually saying you would rather have Cordarelle Patterson than Andre Johnson?
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Sorry if my wording was ambiguous. The "former" is that Johnson is (well, he's older now, at least was and may still be) faster than CP. The "latter" was in reference to someone still being very fast (Volmaster14 followed up with that) AND being very, very elusive, which CP is.

There have actually been quite a few people "faster" than CP. Hell, several have played football at UT. But to have what speed he has (which is still alot) combined with a knack for open field running that is every bit as elite as his speed...that's a short list. If CP can be polished up in the finer points of playing the position (and stays healthy) he has a ton of yards and TD's in his future.
 
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mdrew27 said:
I'm glad I've gotten to watch CP play every game last year. I have no doubt that he will be a player to remember. He's not just a return specialist. He is truly a once in a lifetime kinda player. This video doesn't do CP justice.
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WOW! You really was able to set threw that stuff. It must have subtracted years off your life. I turned the TV off lots of times. I just couldn't sit thru the pain. The state of the program was devastating to our family.
 
#29
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Vols4us said:
Have no idea why they attempted to compare him to Donald Driver. That was pretty ignorant. DD is far less talented, but a hard worker that gave it all he had to achieve. CP is a rare talent that also works hard, but has the ability to break a game open on natural ability alone in a variety of ways. Whatever.
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I was thinking the same thing. I thought Percy Harvin might be the best comparison imo.
 
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The last guy I saw that could change directions so fast going vertically was Desmond Howard. The way CP plants that foot on returns reminds me how DH and also the guy for the Bears....can't remember his name. Regardless of how he pans out at receiver, CP could end up being the best return guy in the game for the next 10 years.
 
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1Big_Orange_Fan said:
The last guy I saw that could change directions so fast going vertically was Desmond Howard. The way CP plants that foot on returns reminds me how DH and also the guy for the Bears....can't remember his name. Regardless of how he pans out at receiver, CP could end up being the best return guy in the game for the next 10 years.
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I'm guessing the other guy you're thinking of is Devin Hester?
 
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1Big_Orange_Fan said:
The last guy I saw that could change directions so fast going vertically was Desmond Howard. The way CP plants that foot on returns reminds me how DH and also the guy for the Bears....can't remember his name. Regardless of how he pans out at receiver, CP could end up being the best return guy in the game for the next 10 years.
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Devin Hester, but C.P. is bigger iirc.
 
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The knock on Patterson is not what he does after catching the ball, it's catching the ball itself or getting off the ball. NFL Live- "Doesn't use his hands enough to separate", "consistently a body catcher" (watch Connor Vernon for prototypical "hands" guy), "wasn't asked (needed?) to go up and get the ball". I'm a Steelers fan- I'll take Vernon- smart route runner, gets off of the jam and catches with his hands- over a Patterson everyday and twice Sunday. Just being objective. We just got rid of a Patterson with Mike Wallace.
 
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SNAFU said:
The knock on Patterson is not what he does after catching the ball, it's catching the ball itself or getting off the ball. NFL Live- "Doesn't use his hands enough to separate", "consistently a body catcher" (watch Connor Vernon for prototypical "hands" guy), "wasn't asked (needed?) to go up and get the ball". I'm a Steelers fan- I'll take Vernon- smart route runner, gets off of the jam and catches with his hands- over a Patterson everyday and twice Sunday. Just being objective. We just got rid of a Patterson with Mike Wallace.
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And by "got rid of" you mean "our #1 receiver was signed away by a huge contract with the Dolphins", right?

But yeah, I'm sure the Steelers would rather have a receiver from Duke who runs a 4.68.
 
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oregonvol said:
And by "got rid of" you mean "our #1 receiver was signed away by a huge contract with the Dolphins", right?

But yeah, I'm sure the Steelers would rather have a receiver from Duke who runs a 4.68.
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Wallace held out last season wanting the big hit. His money went to Brown, does that ring a bell? When you look back, I would have rather had Hines back and traded or cut Wallace. F&&k Wallace, aka "Mr. Drop", and yes a 4.6 guy who will catch a ball across the MIDDLE, and block, I'll take him every day.
 
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mdrew27 said:
I'm glad I've gotten to watch CP play every game last year. I have no doubt that he will be a player to remember. He's not just a return specialist. He is truly a once in a lifetime kinda player. This video doesn't do CP justice.
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That depends on just how hard he is willing to work at perfecting his craft as a wide receiver. The talent is certainly there to be truly extraordinary but it remains quite RAW. If he ultimately turned out to be nothing more than a bigger version of Devin Hester, that wouldn't be half bad either.
 
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I think Patterson is a project. Great wheels in space--but he does NOT have great hands; indeed, he doesn't really catch the ball with his hands, sometimes, as he should, and his route-running is not great. A raw talent who will take two years to make a real mark, IMO. Exceptional athlete who needs more training and coaching up.
 
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Catbone said:
You can't compare Patterson to anyone, period.
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Did you ever see the pre-knee injury version of Gale Sayers? He most definitely could give Patterson a run for his money in terms of broken-field running skills. Here is a little tidbit of information about Gale that may be of interest:

"Sayers is considered by many to have been the greatest open field runner in college football history. While being interviewed by Len Kasper and Bob Brenly during a broadcast of a Chicago Cubs game on September 8th, 2010, Sayers said he had originally intended to go to the University of Iowa. Sayers said that he decided against going to Iowa after the Iowa head coach, Jerry Burns, did not have time to meet Sayers during his on campus visit" (Gale Sayers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). That qualifies as one of the most monumental coaching blunders in the history of college football.
 
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