Paul Finebaum

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He is a Tennessee alum, so he could be on to something. I know he's very accurate when it comes to SEC football news. I think he would know. It has to be some rumblings somewhere for that story to come out about Jeff Walz. I really like Holly and think she's a nice lady, but I think Tennessee can find a better coach that can recruit, motivate the players and mold this program back to elite status. We have to much talent to struggle the way we do.
 
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He evidently had been talking about her yesterday as I caught the tail end of it around 5p yesterday.
 
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madgeyoung said:
He has mentioned at least twice on his show today that Holly's days are numbered at Tennessee.
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I really think that the AD and Administration's backs are against the wall, especially since we are talking about the legacy of a storied program that set the standards for women's college basketball. Their actions, or lack thereof, will not only be judged by loyal Lady Vol fans, but those outside of Knoxville that support Women's College basketball. There are no viable excuses for lack of action. Holly has to go or at least her staff. At this time it would be best to clean house.

We can blame sexual harassement complaints or the Hindenburg mishap, but in the end, good or bad, results fall in the lap of the head coach. Sucvcess in the rear view mirror do not outplay the total collapse of a program. Look at all the negative firsts that have happen to this program in just this year alone. Allowing Holly and her staff to stay, as is, based upon present negativity, is a self imposed death penalty for the Lady Vols. That is a low down dirty shame for all of Women's basketball.
 
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I heard Paul's interview of Andy Landers and he tried to blame this bad season on the fact that LV players are playing as if they are disinterested. Andy who is responsible for motivating the players? Duh, answer is the head coach. Does he think that all the LV players all got together, during preseason, and created a conspiracy to jeopardize the Lady Vols' season? This is plain ludicrous. If the animals are running the zoo, the head zoo keeper needs to be released from their duty.
 
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teacherdean said:
I really think that the AD and Administration's backs are against the wall, especially since we are talking about the legacy of a storied program that set the standards for women's college basketball. Their actions, or lack thereof, will not only be judged by loyal Lady Vol fans, but those outside of Knoxville that support Women's College basketball. There are no viable excuses for lack of action. Holly has to go or at least her staff. At this time it would be best to clean house.

We can blame sexual harassement complaints or the Hindenburg mishap, but in the end, good or bad, results fall in the lap of the head coach. Sucvcess in the rear view mirror do not outplay the total collapse of a program. Look at all the negative firsts that have happen to this program in just this year alone. Allowing Holly and her staff to stay, as is, based upon present negativity, is a self imposed death penalty for the Lady Vols. That is a low down dirty shame for all of Women's basketball.
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"Holly has to go or at least her staff"?
Nope. If her staff goes Holly goes with them. She's the rotten apple in the barrel and the one that must be removed.

Other than that great post by the way. Thank you.
 
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teacherdean said:
I heard Paul's interview of Andy Landers and he tried to blame this bad season on the fact that LV players are playing as if they are disinterested. Andy who is responsible for motivating the players? Duh, answer is the head coach. Does he think that all the LV players all got together, during preseason, and created a conspiracy to jeopardize the Lady Vols' season? This is plain ludicrous. If the animals are running the zoo, the head zoo keeper needs to be released from their duty.
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Why should a coach HAVE to motivate their players. The players are here to play for the university and get an education. That is their job. Holly doesn't throw the ball away, shoot sh_tty shots, or make bad passes. That's on the players. They should be up for the NEXT game, regardless of who it is. Holly can plan for a game till the cows come home, but ultimately, it is on the players to execute..they are the ones with all the skills.:thumbsup:
 
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greenbacknative said:
Why should a coach HAVE to motivate their players. The players are here to play for the university and get an education. That is their job. Holly doesn't throw the ball away, shoot sh_tty shots, or make bad passes. That's on the players. They should be up for the NEXT game, regardless of who it is. Holly can plan for a game till the cows come home, but ultimately, it is on the players to execute..they are the ones with all the skills.:thumbsup:
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Because that is what a coach is - a motivator & a teacher.
 
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I've only seen one game on TV out here this year. Can't remember who it was or who won, but I remember thinking they just don't look as sharp as the used to. No leader on the floor and looked like they were just going thru the motions. Holly can RAH, RAH, RAH in the huddle, but they need someone on the floor to call them out when they don't hustle.
 
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greenbacknative said:
Why should a coach HAVE to motivate their players. The players are here to play for the university and get an education. That is their job. Holly doesn't throw the ball away, shoot sh_tty shots, or make bad passes. That's on the players. They should be up for the NEXT game, regardless of who it is. Holly can plan for a game till the cows come home, but ultimately, it is on the players to execute..they are the ones with all the skills.:thumbsup:
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These players don't get paid to play, it's not their JOB! They are in the schools athletic program to become better players and to learn. I tell you who does have a job to do and that's Holly! Her job is to teach these young women and motivate them so they can be better for the next level. They are coming into the college program as raw talent and you better believe a main job of a coach is to motivate and Warlick has not been doing hers, at all! Pro players, men and women, need motivation sometimes from their coaches. What a ridiculous thing to say and what a horrible way to try to blame everything on these young players who look lost on the court because they have no "real" coach.
 
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greenbacknative said:
I've only seen one game on TV out here this year. Can't remember who it was or who won, but I remember thinking they just don't look as sharp as the used to. No leader on the floor and looked like they were just going thru the motions. Holly can RAH, RAH, RAH in the huddle, but they need someone on the floor to call them out when they don't hustle.
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Motivation isn't restricted to cheerleading.
 
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greenbacknative said:
Why should a coach HAVE to motivate their players. The players are here to play for the university and get an education. That is their job. Holly doesn't throw the ball away, shoot sh_tty shots, or make bad passes. That's on the players. They should be up for the NEXT game, regardless of who it is. Holly can plan for a game till the cows come home, but ultimately, it is on the players to execute..they are the ones with all the skills.:thumbsup:
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I get your point, but let's just be honest and let's just be real. There is NO game plan to execute. All Holly want is for the ball to get inside. Players will get frustrated because they can sense the coach is in over her head. It's also a different story when it is said coaches are sitting down with recruits showing film on how the Lady Vols lack fundamentals, players aren't getting developed and Tennessee runs no offense. This all leads to poor coaching. No one can identify what offense Tennessee runs. Even Kim Mulkey got on national TV a few years ago during a half-time interview and stated that Tennessee runs no offense. They're basically playing street ball. Yes, the players have a part to play, but coaching is the main issue as to why this program is sinking. Holly is not head coach material and it is what it is.
 
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greenbacknative said:
Why should a coach HAVE to motivate their players. The players are here to play for the university and get an education. That is their job. Holly doesn't throw the ball away, shoot sh_tty shots, or make bad passes. That's on the players. They should be up for the NEXT game, regardless of who it is. Holly can plan for a game till the cows come home, but ultimately, it is on the players to execute..they are the ones with all the skills.:thumbsup:
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You must have missed our last head coach. I don't know about you, but had I played for her, I damned sure wouldn't have wanted her to get the idea I wasn't giving 100% all the time. You might say she was the epitome of a motivator.
 
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Darth_Vol said:
I wouldn't get too excited, Finebaum doesn't know crap about women's bball....
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I hope he's right. Maybe he's hearing things from his Tennessee connections/sources? It's sad to watch a program like Tennessee go down in flames. If Holly comes back next season, it would be a shame. It's going to be very difficult for her to get elite recruits to come. Opposing staffs are having a field day with the way thing are going this season. I'm sure they're painting a picture in recruits heads as to why not to choose Tennessee.
 
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Coffy73 said:
These players don't get paid to play, it's not their JOB! They are in the schools athletic program to become better players and to learn. I tell you who does have a job to do and that's Holly! Her job is to teach these young women and motivate them so they can be better for the next level. They are coming into the college program as raw talent and you better believe a main job of a coach is to motivate and Warlick has not been doing hers, at all! Pro players, men and women, need motivation sometimes from their coaches. What a ridiculous thing to say and what a horrible way to try to blame everything on these young players who look lost on the court because they have no "real" coach.
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actually they are paid,free housing,food,health care and a well earned education,I'm sure I am missing other things,but that is a lot of cash going there way

so you may as well consider them paid
 
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Finebaum likes to stir the s%$t. He said Saban was leaving Alabama two years ago, and then again this year, he also said 100 percent Les Miles was gone at LSU. One think is clear, his prediction and knowledge of coaching jobs is a big flat zero
 
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governmentmule said:
actually they are paid,free housing,food,health care and a well earned education,I'm sure I am missing other things,but that is a lot of cash going there way

so you may as well consider them paid
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You are correct "mule" they are subsidized for playing at this institution. But, the point is many schools would like to pay these athletes to play at their schools, would anyone pay Holly to coach at their institution...:birgits_giggle:!
 
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Darth_Vol said:
I wouldn't get too excited, Finebaum doesn't know crap about women's bball....
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...and he's never played a down in his life...so what does he know except some SEC history of football...so, heck, there's many on here could put him to shame about SEC football...he's nothing special...:whistling:

GO VOLS!
 
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I think she'll be back next season with a few ultimatums attached to team performance which she will have to meet or be out the door. I suspect one of those would be an SEC title either tourney or regular season. I also think an elite 8 would be in the conversation so with the team not a strong next season because of graduation these will be tough team goals to meet. I think we might see a an Assistant of two out the door this year. How do you not make a change based on guard play. Whomever is over the guards has done a horrible job.
 
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A lot of great points being made in this thread. I agree that it's HW job to get the best out of these players and motivate them. And it is WCBB and not the NBA or WNBA where the motivation is that next contract $$$$...

Plus, these are still kids trying to find their way in the world, in class and on the court. They need structure, discipline and someone who will provide all of that and coaching. The lack of offensive identity combined with the decisions she is making, have all gotten HW in trouble here. Kids will challenge authority to see how much they can get away with. And the "chemistry" issues on this team have derailed it because HW and her staff have not put a stop to it. Great teams have systems the you play into leaving little room for "chemistry" issues. You either do your job in the "system" or you sit or go somewhere else. This team doesn't have a "system" so these kids are gonna do what they do and if the "good cop" to Pat's "bad cop" for 30 years doesn't change her hat, the results are we the eyes see now.

These players all though young, are not dumb or have completely no basketball IQ. They know you don't leave a 57% FT shooter on the floor in a must foul situation. They know you don't burn your timeouts with under a minute to play while you are up unless you take it because you can't inbound the ball. They see all of this and looks to me like they have no confidence in her or her staff and are just going through the motions to get the season over with.

And you have a roster full of HS all-americans that have not appeared to be developed. Over the past 3-4 seasons, this team has had more HS all-americans on it than UConn and SC. So the ranking of #4 at the start of the season was justified...... on paper...... But now that the games have been played, you see the problems.
 
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