Pearl: "I'm not going anywhere"

#76
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hatvol96 said:
If I know my client has violated the terms of his contract, will be subject to termination for cause, and wants to keep his current job and not blow up his chances at other jobs, I wouldn't have much choice. Allowing UT to terminate the contract without a fight was a show of good faith on Pearl's part. That's all he can do now. If he had chosen to contest the termination, he'd be unemployed right now.
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Why is this so hard for some to understand?
 
#78
#78
JZVOL said:
They already found out what he did. He's guilty. He admitted he is guilty. That part is already over. They are waiting to find out if he did more and what the punishment is.
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His contract had him protected until the NCAA finalized and released their findings and punishment. The NCAA hasn't done anything yet, and under the old contract if Bruce was fired before then he would be entitled money. Yes, he had a choice in the matter of terminating his contract.
 
#79
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tvols75 said:
His contract had him protected until the NCAA finalized and released their findings and punishment. The NCAA hasn't done anything yet, and under the old contract if Bruce was fired before then he would be entitled money. Yes, he had a choice in the matter of terminating his contract.
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Actions say otherwise.
 
#80
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JZVOL said:
Actions say otherwise.
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It was in the contract, the story was on ESPN about how UT couldn't fire without having to pay him until it was all released. Me and Hat aren't discussing this fact, that was old news. Catch up.
 
#81
#81
tvols75 said:
It was in the contract, the story was on ESPN about how UT couldn't fire without having to pay him until it was all released. Me and Hat aren't discussing this fact, that was old news. Catch up.
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Clearly I'm the one that needs to catch up.
 
#82
#82
tvols75 said:
No one knew Bruce had that much protection in the previous contract until all of this was revealed.
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Only because nobody had any reason to ask to see it. If they ask, UT has to turn it over. You can rest assured there are requests out there for all documents pertaining to Pearl's employment.
 
#83
#83
JZVOL said:
Clearly I'm the one that needs to catch up.
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So you are saying that Pearl wouldn't be owed money if they fired him before the NCAA ruling under the old contract? If you are, then yes you are the one that needs to catch up.
 
#84
#84
hatvol96 said:
Only because nobody had any reason to ask to see it. If they ask, UT has to turn it over. You can rest assured there are requests out there for all documents pertaining to Pearl's employment.
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Ask for it and put the conditions of the letter of appointment so we can see if there are any stipulations. This would solve the question :). I just can't fathom a lawyer being dumb enough to have the possibility of his client being fired before a new contract is in place without some sort of compensation repercussions. It would be a sleazy move by Hamilton to fire him while in new contract negotiations, but it would be a possibility under your scenario. Come on Hat, you have to give your profession some more credit than that.
 
#85
#85
tvols75 said:
So you are saying that Pearl wouldn't be owed money if they fired him before the NCAA ruling under the old contract? If you are, then yes you are the one that needs to catch up.
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I'm saying you're the man. You are smarter than Hamilton, Pearl and his legal team.
 
#86
#86
JZVOL said:
I'm saying you're the man. You are smarter than Hamilton, Pearl and his legal team.
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What? So now that you are proven wrong on your little "fact" about Pearl not being able to get paid if terminated before the NCAA results are released, you are going to put stupid comments like that? Makes sense.
 
#88
#88
tvols75 said:
What? So now that you are proven wrong on your little "fact" about Pearl not being able to get paid if terminated before the NCAA results are released, you are going to put stupid comments like that? Makes sense.
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What is the difference in UT terminating his contract, Pearl working "at will" or whatever they call it, and at the end of the year both sides walking away or Pearl being fired?

End result is the same, but in the first case both sides come out looking better.
 
#89
#89
tvols75 said:
What? So now that you are proven wrong on your little "fact" about Pearl not being able to get paid if terminated before the NCAA results are released, you are going to put stupid comments like that? Makes sense.
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And where have I stated any facts about his contract? I'll hang up and listen.
 
#90
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JZVOL said:
What is the difference in UT terminating his contract, Pearl working "at will" or whatever they call it, and at the end of the year both sides walking away or Pearl being fired?

End result is the same, but in the first case both sides come out looking better.
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Will you stay with what you are even talking about. You said that Pearl had no choice in the matter of his terminated contract. That is wrong. He did and if he were to have gotten fired before the NCAA results then he would've gotten paid.
 
#91
#91
tvols75 said:
Will you stay with what you are even talking about. You said that Pearl had no choice in the matter of his terminated contract. That is wrong. He did and if he were to have gotten fired before the NCAA results then he would've gotten paid.
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So why did the contract get terminated then? I'll answer for you. If he says no to the termination of his contract and UT fires him and pays him, do you think there is any chance in hell he ever finds another job?

He really had no choice if wants to continue his career at UT or another school.
 
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#92
#92
JZVOL said:
So why did the contract get terminated then?
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I'm tired of responding to you... read the entire thread. I will leave you with this quote.

"If Tennessee is to fire embattled basketball coach Bruce Pearl, it will likely come at a steep price. According to ESPN.com, Pearl cannot be fired for cause without compensation until there is an NCAA finding. It would also have to be determined that Pearl knowingly committed "significant" NCAA violations."
 
#93
#93
tvols75 said:
I'm tired of responding to you... read the entire thread. I will leave you with this quote.

"If Tennessee is to fire embattled basketball coach Bruce Pearl, it will likely come at a steep price. According to ESPN.com, Pearl cannot be fired for cause without compensation until there is an NCAA finding. It would also have to be determined that Pearl knowingly committed "significant" NCAA violations."
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Again, you continue to refer to a contract that is no longer in existence. If he had not agreed to the termination of his contract, you are correct. He did. The contract was terminated. Those safeguards included in that contract no longer exist. If you read the termination letter, you could surmise that significant NCAA violations occurred. Currently, he has no contract. To continue to argue that he would receive significant compensation should he be fired now based on a contract that does not exist is ludicrous.
 
#94
#94
tvols75 said:
I'm tired of responding to you... read the entire thread. I will leave you with this quote.

"If Tennessee is to fire embattled basketball coach Bruce Pearl, it will likely come at a steep price. According to ESPN.com, Pearl cannot be fired for cause without compensation until there is an NCAA finding. It would also have to be determined that Pearl knowingly committed "significant" NCAA violations."
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Who wrote that article? If I remember correctly, Mike Hamilton said in a radio interview that report was not accurate.
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#95
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Freak said:
Who wrote that article? If I remember correctly, Mike Hamilton said in a radio interview that report was not accurate.
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It isn't. Pearl agreed to the termination because it was his lone choice if he wanted to keep coaching. Otherwise, there was no need for this temporary situation, because Pearl's then existing contract would have sufficed until a new one was put into place. This pesky little fact is the wrench in logic man's argument.
 
#96
#96
Freak said:
Who wrote that article? If I remember correctly, Mike Hamilton said in a radio interview that report was not accurate.
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He did. That quote is before anyone knew the contract had been terminated.
 
#98
#98
JZVOL said:
But what about Pearl's leverage???
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His leverage is Hamilton's pickle. Otherwise, there would be none whatsoever. The guy wins and we want him here because he has awakened our fanbase, but it's not enough to overcome blatant lying to the AA and public confession for getting caught.
 
#99
#99
BigPapaVol said:
His leverage is Hamilton's pickle. Otherwise, there would be none whatsoever. The guy wins and we want him here because he has awakened our fanbase, but it's not enough to overcome blatant lying to the AA and public confession for getting caught.
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Pearl is Jewish, is it kosher?
 
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