Pelosi: Republicans `like' Iraq War

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#26
they have a contract. the reason why their earnings have gone through the roof is that they are THE premier oil service company in the world and the oil price is $90 a barrell. Which by the way is why they got the iraq job. There are maybe 2 other companies in the world that could do that type of work. The part of the company that does the iraq work was actually spun off last year. if it was vastly profitable don't you think they would keep it around rather than spin it off into a seperat company?

I'm not disagreeing with anything you say. Just questioning those who question the idea of them making money. They are doing business in the middle of a war zone, who isn't going to expect large profits on such a venture.
 
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I think she actually had a valid point but one that shouldn't be said in all honesty

Face it, both parties have an interest in this war.

In my opinion, Republicans want this war to continue and they DO NOT want a "retreat" scenario because they know that they would be the fall men if that occured. Not saying that makes them any less American or whatever but they would be looked upon as the group that "failed" if the Iraq war was stopped tommorrow.....of course it is by NO MEANS "their fault"....we all know how politics work and the Republicans are looked upon by the common joe as the party that brought us to war.

On the flip side, Democrats know that a bad war means better chances for them to win seats/votes thus they will do whatever they can to just highlight the pure negatives throughout the war because they KNOW that a retreat from Iraq is a Democrat success with a high majority of the country (that is just my opinion and not supported by facts) would not mind seeing a retreat if proper measures were put in place in Iraq as we left.

So, just as Republicans "like" the war, Democrats "dislike" the war with the same idiotic, political thought behind it

Neither is better than the other....


When you read those two options do you really think neither is better than other?

Option #1 Republicans want to push on. We left Iraq early once and we all know what happened. Things have gotten much better as of late according to my buddies in the thick of it (Also notice less coverage as of late because the liberal media enjoys covering the bad more than the good). So a citizen of the US should remember what happened last time when we left early (basically a free for all killing revenge spree) and think that gee, we are getting much closer to securing IRAQ for good this time.

Option #2 If you are a democrat and hope that the war fails simply because it will hurt the Republicans in the elections, then you my friend wish death upon many people of IRAQ and will probably cause even more countries to hate us because we leave a country high and dry as we did last time. To hope for that to happen is simply insane. I wish people that feel this way had to live a day in a country like Iraq, then maybe they would remember that freedom is something to appreciate, not forget. Some will counter with; but our soldiers are dying over there. Most that go and fight know that they are fighting for a cause, that is the spirit of the armerd forces and America. Freedom is not at all free and many men before us died so that we could sit around and waste time typing on this board.
 
#29
#29
two problems with what you said

1) you work under the assumption that the idiots that hope for some catastrophic failure are democrats. They aren't democrats, they are mentally challenged.

2) you chose the term "liberal media" which leads me to believe that you buy into the myth of the liberal media. As someone so intelligently put it some time ago in this forum, the media isn't biased towards anything other than ratings, sales, etc. They are almost all in the business of making profits, not vast anti-American conspiracies.

The two options presented initially were insanely flawed anyways, and I don't know how one could seriously think this is a completely black and white issue.

Finally, Nancy Pelosi is an antagonistic little witch who lives to get people on the right up in arms. If she were to resign tomorrow, a large percentage of liberals, like myself, would breathe a collective sigh of relief.
 
#30
#30
I agree with parts of what you say. I enjoy your post though. Are you not just so fed up with politics though? I honestly think that there are so many out there that would take the chance to further their career at the loss or suffering of others (sometimes regardless of the cost). We need to get rid of career politicians and avoid all the bull we must endure today.
 
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#31
When you read those two options do you really think neither is better than other?

I think both are ridiculous because both operate under the idea that both sides are only doing it for political reasons rather than what they actually think is good for the country.

Right and Left wingers will do whatever they can to state how the other side is killing whatever and their side is actually correct. What better way to promote one's side by going as extreme as possible to bashing the minority or opposition. That is the reason why so many have given up on getting involved with politics. Why bother?

Option #1 Republicans want to push on. We left Iraq early once and we all know what happened. Things have gotten much better as of late according to my buddies in the thick of it (Also notice less coverage as of late because the liberal media enjoys covering the bad more than the good). So a citizen of the US should remember what happened last time when we left early (basically a free for all killing revenge spree) and think that gee, we are getting much closer to securing IRAQ for good this time.
Many Republicans want to push on because they have no other idea on what to do which makes it even worse.

As for the liberal media reporting less, I don't buy that. Turn on Fox and the Iraq news is less every month. The country is becoming less interested in hearing about it good or bad. Has little to do with any bias in the media.

If you think we are anywhere near "close" to securing Iraq.....I would like some of what you are drinking because I have been bone-dry on that for quite a long time. Iraq has a long, long, long, LONG way to go before it is anywhere near secure on MANY fronts.

Option #2 If you are a democrat and hope that the war fails simply because it will hurt the Republicans in the elections, then you my friend wish death upon many people of IRAQ and will probably cause even more countries to hate us because we leave a country high and dry as we did last time.
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