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Ok, the thought for this thread is to share personal stories that have impacted your personal political beliefs, or are just "cool starry bra" political moments like meeting a president.

My hope is that if we can share some of our own stories, and how they impacted our political stances, we can be a touch more understanding of each other.

Probably being too hopeful. I will post up one of mine.
 
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Ok, the thought for this thread is to share personal stories that have impacted your personal political beliefs, or are just "cool starry bra" political moments like meeting a president.

My hope is that if we can share some of our own stories, and how they impacted our political stances, we can be a touch more understanding of each other.

Probably being too hopeful. I will post up one of mine.

I am curious how you became a commie.
 
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Ok I was raised thinking my family was a lot poorer than we were. Basically my parents raised us to take care of our selves and not to be dependent on anyone. Both parents are from small town Alabama.

But anyway I was up at a friends wedding in West Virginia back in 2011ish when the tornado touched down in Charleston, which is where the wedding was.

This was the day before the wedding and they had invited all of the guests out to the dinner the night before since so few guests made it. The dinner was held in one of the parks near the airport. Tornado comes thru knocks over some trees, scares the crap out of people, but no one is harmed in our area. After checking on everyone the park people tell everyone they have to leave. Problem is the road is blocked out and there are a bunch of cars (we weren't the only ones in the park) stuck on this small road. The car I was in was near the front of the line. We see the park people drive up to see what the issue was. We all get out of our cars cause it turned into a couple hour wait. I end up walking up to see what the hold up was and there were a couple trees down about 50 feet from the first car. Park employees were standing there looking confused and concerned. These weren't big trees, and really only one of them was blocking the entire length of road, but no one could get out.

We wait about two hours for the local rescue crew to roll up to us. they check on everyone, make sure there are no medical needs, or nothing on fire or anything crazy. Once they walked the park, the majority get up and leave, they don't even cut up the tree. They leave one emergency crew to relay info. I ask what is going on, why couldnt we leave? I was told there were trees down, I asked if it was only those in front of us. They said no, trees down everywhere, but besides the trees in front of us the way to the main road was clear for us. So I asked why didn't they clear the road? Oh we have to wait on the guy with the chain saw. I asked why, he responded we have nothing to cut the tree up. I ask about the axe they have hanging in their truck painted bright red, "oh thats not for cutting wood".

u wot m8?

Now I am not some billy bad ass outdoors man. But I have cut up trees much bigger than 6" diameter with a freaking axe before. I ask how long can we expect to wait, oh it will be several hours. I ask if they know how to use an axe, and if I could cut up the tree with it. No its not allowed, they are only allowed to use chain saws to clear trees.

again, u wot m8?

I ask if they would be fine with me looking at the trees to see about clearing the debris for the guy to cut up the trees a little easier. they said sure, they couldn't be sued if I got myself hurt and then they laughed at me. At this point we had been stuck for 3 or 4 hours.

As I get up there and start moving some of the broken branches I realize I can break off enough of the tree to clear a path. So I start working on it. It was three trees that had fallen together and they were pretty intertwined. But I was able to break it up so that the longest tree was free from the others. and me and one other friend of mine end up physically pulling the tree to one side. This took us about an hour, if they had given the darn axe it would have taken about 20 minutes by myself.

after the way was clear the emergency people came and looked at it, and got upset "what did you do that for" "why did you move the tree" "should have just waited for the chain saw, it would have been easier"

it was at that moment I knew I could never count on the government to save the people, and that I was better left fending for myself. an hour of my own work literally using only my own two hands did more than 6 hours of the emergency response arm of the government could. and who knows how long it would have been before a magical chain saw showed up.

I get that we were a relatively low priority, but I just don't get the point of standing around while people need help, better to just get it done. That lesson has stuck with me.
 
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I am curious how you became a commie.
depends on which commie reference you are referring too?

If you mean anti-Trump I was raised simply and hate people who live and act like him. before he became president not a single soul from my upraising in the south would have found him tolerable.
as president he has done nothing to dissuade me from that opinion.
 
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Ok, the thought for this thread is to share personal stories that have impacted your personal political beliefs, or are just "cool starry bra" political moments like meeting a president.

My hope is that if we can share some of our own stories, and how they impacted our political stances, we can be a touch more understanding of each other.

Probably being too hopeful. I will post up one of mine.

Reading and thinking about John Rawls' veil of ignorance thought experiment.

 
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High level summary, I arrived at my beliefs being raised by staunch Republicans, then studying economics, then being convinced by Ron Paul that Republicans are mostly garbage (he didn't say that, but that's the only conclusion if you're truly for small government). Therefore, I'm basically an apolitical cynic who gets to throw stones at all the hypocrites on both sides of the aisle

The end
 
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High level summary, I arrived at my beliefs being raised by staunch Republicans, then studying economics, then being convinced by Ron Paul that Republicans are mostly garbage (he didn't say that, but that's the only conclusion if you're truly for small government). Therefore, I'm basically an apolitical cynic who gets to throw stones at all the hypocrites on both sides of the aisle

The end

That's very similar to the path I've taken. I used to be the best (or worst) neocon imaginable. Then I came to the realization that neither party is any better than something you see lying in the bottom of a portajohn.
 
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Two and I'll try and make them brief.

First year in college, community college to save money and I'm also not that smart:), small communications class taught by a professor who was a childhood and college roommate of Oprah Winfrey. I didn't mind her but she wasn't my favorite teacher. Anyway she announces that she will select the top 4 students in the class with the highest grades to take a trip to Chicago with her to meet Oprah. I had the highest grade in the class and was one of the four chosen. Next class meeting the teacher stands up and announces that it would not reflect well on the college to have all white students represented so she was replacing me with a black student from the Poli Sci department. I knew enough to know what a vindictive bitch the teacher was so I didn't say anything, while others voiced there concerns. I at least kept my grade while the ones who complained had their grades dropped. Didn't care about Oprah but would have been cool to meet her.

Second, after a few years with my first job I was on a committee to select some top performing employees for a new customer service group. Soon recognized that it was top performing race/gender performers rather than top performers. The irony in all of it was that a few black and hispanic workers were not chosen because we already had enough selected and needed more white females. Would have been funny if it wasn't so stupid.
 
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Mine is simple. 30+ years working in defense contracting and dealing with the DoD procurement model and methods. It pisses me off at the level of waste that is clearly on purpose and the bastards have no intention of fixing it. In fact they want to make it worse since more inefficiency means a bigger bureaucracy!

$1000 hammers that cost $19.99 at Home Depot make complete sense to me.
 
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I was a JFK supporter as a 10 year old during the 1960 election, primarily because my mother was involved in Democrat politics before and during that time. I remember watching the 1956 Dem Convention because Estes Kefauver, Senator from Tennessee was on the Dem ticket as the VP nominee for Adlai Stevenson of Illinois. He donned a coonskin cap during that convention due to the Davy Crockett connection. Crockett and the coonskin cap were popular at that time due to the television show. and movie.

I changed parties for the most part after listening to Barry Goldwater as a 14 year old during the 1964 campaign. I went to rallies to see both Hubert Humphrey and Richard Nixon in 1968 as a college student at U.T. and shook hands with both. I was undecided that point. I saw Eisenhower from a distance in April 1960 in Washington, and my dad and I were headed for D.C. in Jan. 1961 to see the Kennedy Inauguration, but decided to stay over with relatives about 75 miles from D.C. due to a snowstorm. There was a mountain to cross back then with no interstate, just a 2 lane mountain road. On Inauguration Day, we decided not to go on.
 
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I supported my bosses brother for re-election to a state rep seat when I was young. They were a good family and he was a good man. When he decided not to run again because he saw how broken the system was and one good man could not change it. It left an impression.
I ran for my village council in 2010 for no other reason than to deseat a man who had lost several steps mentally. I was surprised to find many people voted for me. Not because of what I stood for but to take someone out who should have had the sense to resign when he was forgetting where he parked the town's caterpillar or drove it through a fence into someone's garage. Why anyone would seek political office is beyond me. I came close to getting a seat at the village council and would have crapped myself if I did.
I don't use the .gov or any benefits from them. Probably because they suck at getting anything done efficiently, timely, under cost or even at cost. I'd rather depend on me and mine, it seems to work best that way.
 
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I supported my bosses brother for re-election to a state rep seat when I was young. They were a good family and he was a good man. When he decided not to run again because he saw how broken the system was and one good man could not change it. It left an impression.
I ran for my village council in 2010 for no other reason than to deseat a man who had lost several steps mentally. I was surprised to find many people voted for me. Not because of what I stood for but to take someone out who should have had the sense to resign when he was forgetting where he parked the town's caterpillar or drove it through a fence into someone's garage. Why anyone would seek political office is beyond me. I came close to getting a seat at the village council and would have crapped myself if I did.
I don't use the .gov or any benefits from them. Probably because they suck at getting anything done efficiently, timely, under cost or even at cost. I'd rather depend on me and mine, it seems to work best that way.

Neat story.
If you won the village contest you could of been President by now! And you and Reb could have us over for football game parties at the WH.
 
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depends on which commie reference you are referring too?

If you mean anti-Trump I was raised simply and hate people who live and act like him. before he became president not a single soul from my upraising in the south would have found him tolerable.
as president he has done nothing to dissuade me from that opinion.

Wah
 
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Neat story.
If you won the village contest you could of been President by now! And you and Reb could have us over for football game parties at the WH.
Wooohooo, it was all good until a bonifide wacko showed up at my front door when my address was published. If I had gotten a seat I would have served but as my mayor said" you have an uncanny ability to cut through ******** and you would have been good on the council buuuut you lack the social graces of not calling people liars" during an evening of drinking. My friends all agreed...Thank God I've mellowed.
Would you ever do public service?
 
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Wooohooo, it was all good until a bonifide wacko showed up at my front door when my address was published. If I had gotten a seat I would have served but as my mayor said" you have an uncanny ability to cut through ******** and you would have been good on the council buuuut you lack the social graces of not calling people liars" during an evening of drinking. My friends all agreed...Thank God I've mellowed.
Would you ever do public service?

I have my PS degree and did a few month internship for Sen Gore to see the inner workings. Had to answer phones when constituents called and do crap work. Not sure I could deal with the constituent public, even though I have been in sales for 25 years...lol.

One thing that internship taught me...Politicians are phony and that is not my style.

I would not mind a small town job though. I would let it get to my head and rename the town after myself.
 
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I have my PS degree and did a few month internship for Sen Gore to see the inner workings. Had to answer phones when constituents called and do crap work. Not sure I could deal with the constituent public, even though I have been in sales for 25 years...lol.

One thing that internship taught me...Politicians are phony and that is not my style.
Genuine works in sales. I don't think I could deal with the hot mess that makes up a constituency on political basis. I'm the get off my lawn chick. Whatever you are doing seems to work well. It helps you have a good sense of humor. 👍
 
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I supported my bosses brother for re-election to a state rep seat when I was young. They were a good family and he was a good man. When he decided not to run again because he saw how broken the system was and one good man could not change it. It left an impression.
I ran for my village council in 2010 for no other reason than to deseat a man who had lost several steps mentally. I was surprised to find many people voted for me. Not because of what I stood for but to take someone out who should have had the sense to resign when he was forgetting where he parked the town's caterpillar or drove it through a fence into someone's garage. Why anyone would seek political office is beyond me. I came close to getting a seat at the village council and would have crapped myself if I did.
I don't use the .gov or any benefits from them. Probably because they suck at getting anything done efficiently, timely, under cost or even at cost. I'd rather depend on me and mine, it seems to work best that way.
So you ran against Joe Biden?
 
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Genuine works in sales. I don't think I could deal with the hot mess that makes up a constituency on political basis. I'm the get off my lawn chick. Whatever you are doing seems to work well. It helps you have a good sense of humor. 👍

Thank you.
One of the first things said in the Public Administration part of my studies was "bureaucrats are not accountable" and this was said by a real liberal feminist who taught Women in Politics class. I also like to take care of things as quickly and efficiently as I can with no procrastination. Not the way it works in the gov.
 
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Thank you.
One of the first things said in the Public Administration part of my studies was "bureaucrats are not accountable" and this was said by a real liberal feminist who taught Women in Politics class. I also like to take care of things as quickly and efficiently as I can with no procrastination. Not the way it works in the gov.
I've come to learn none of them are accountable. I can't lie, I'm a procrastinator. Ask reb...lol.
 

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