Peterman vs Oregon and UF

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Did we really move the ball in the first half with Peterman vs Florida? Was it really not as bad as we all think we remembered? Decide for yourself.....

Tennessee Drive Summaries-

1st drive- 2 plays, 45 seconds, -6 yds, fumble

2nd drive- 3 plays, 39 seconds, -5 yds, fumble

3rd drive- 8 plays, 2:28, 26 yds, interception

4th drive- 3 plays, 1:12, -3 yds, punt

5th drive- 5 plays, 2:27, -9 yds, punt

6th drive- 3 plays, 1:23, 1 yd, interception.

24 plays, 4 yds, 4 turnovers, 0 points.
 
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WriterVol said:
Players sometimes think it's not as bad as it is. Bray also tried to go back in after he broke his thumb. I don't claim to know what happened in that sequence, but it's not a stretch to think he may not have realized immediately how bad it was .
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KBVol said:
Did we really move the ball in the first half with Peterman vs Florida? Was it really not as bad as we all think we remembered? Decide for yourself.....

Tennessee Drive Summaries-

1st drive- 2 plays, 45 seconds, -6 yds, fumble

2nd drive- 3 plays, 39 seconds, -5 yds, fumble

3rd drive- 8 plays, 2:28, 26 yds, interception

4th drive- 3 plays, 1:12, -3 yds, punt

5th drive- 5 plays, 2:27, -9 yds, punt

6th drive- 3 plays, 1:23, 1 yd, interception.

24 plays, 4 yds, 4 turnovers, 0 points.
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Sometimes I think it's more of our play calling than actual players. Every time there was a screen pass, we got stuffed immediately. Mix it up at least.
 
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What I saw in this video was our O-line totally dominated, WR's not making plays to help out our QB, and Peterman taking the blame for what was mostly a team loss (up until his injury). After watching this, I wouldn't be that upset if CBJ names him the starter.

I would not have said this yesterday.

VFE
 
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oldfartvol said:
What I saw in this video was our O-line totally dominated, WR's not making plays to help out our QB, and Peterman taking the blame for what was mostly a team loss (up until his injury). After watching this, I wouldn't be that upset if CBJ names him the starter.

I would not have said this yesterday.

VFE
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Did we watch the same video?
 
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kentucky sucks said:
Did he not tell the coaches "hey, I think I broke my hand!"? Why would you continue to play him with a broken hand when you have three more QB'S on the sideline? Did he tell the coaches and they said "don't worry about it and go play."? If they sent him back with a broken hand then maybe Butch and co. aren't as smart as they seem to be. I would bet that Peterman didn't want to tell them so he could stay in and get his shot. Either way, one of those decisions cost us that game.
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If I remember correctly, he did not tell the coaches about it.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Honestly that was god awful. He makes the wrong read running the option a handful of times, his throws are late and inaccurate. I don't see a single thing in that video that makes me feel optimistic about him next year. It will be Worley.
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This is how I would sum up Worley as well.
 
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He broke his hand pretty early against Fla. And people are judging that performance as the type of player he is. Plus he starts his first game in.a place where the Vols haven't won in forever, give this guy a break!! Throw in vanilla play calling and this had disaster written all over it.

I admire the kid for coming back this year and fighting for the starting job. He could have checked out, got his degree and went onto adulthood.
 
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Dougie_D said:
Sometimes I think it's more of our play calling than actual players. Every time there was a screen pass, we got stuffed immediately. Mix it up at least.
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In the second half, in a still competitive game, Worley threw for 123 yards vs the same defense. Was that all play calling? I doubt it. Our offense under Worley did significantly better than 1 yard every 6 plays like it did with Peterman behind center.
 
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This is hilarious. A couple of good practice reports about Peterman, and people are all of a sudden so quick to defend him and blame everyone else for the Florida debacle.

A month ago there wasn't a Vols fan alive that would have defended Peterman regarding that game. I guess hearing he's had some good practices somehow changed everything about last year?
 
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Makes me nauseous seeing how many (READ) options the qb refused to keep...Worley was the same way against Oregon it's painful when they refused to keep the defense honest.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
This is hilarious. A couple of good practice reports about Peterman, and people are all of a sudden so quick to defend him and blame everyone else for the Florida debacle.

A month ago there wasn't a Vols fan alive that would have defended Peterman regarding that game. I guess hearing he's had some good practices somehow changed everything about last year?
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I've never waivered in my opinion.....I've always said Peterman didn't get a fair chance with the playcalling. It was extremely predictable and then all of a sudden they started running more than 2 plays when they put Worley back in

Did Peterman play well? No but he certainly didn't get any help
 
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Vol865 said:
I've never waivered in my opinion.....I've always said Peterman didn't get a fair chance with the playcalling. It was extremely predictable and then all of a sudden they started running more than 2 plays when they put Worley back in

Did Peterman play well? No but he certainly didn't get any help
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He may not have grasped the playbook as well as Worley, that could be the reason for the limited playbook. Hell, he couldn't do the simple things well in that game, but some wanted him to do more? Let's be serious.
 
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Vol865 said:
I've never waivered in my opinion.....I've always said Peterman didn't get a fair chance with the playcalling. It was extremely predictable and then all of a sudden they started running more than 2 plays when they put Worley back in

Did Peterman play well? No but he certainly didn't get any help
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Agreed.

I was a vol fan that defended Peterman a month ago. 3 months ago. 10 months ago. I think he has what it takes to be a great success in this league and has worked harder than anyone to be the best he can be.

IMO, a lot of people will be swallowing crow by Saturday in regards to Peterman being named the starter.
 
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Vol865 said:
I've never waivered in my opinion.....I've always said Peterman didn't get a fair chance with the playcalling. It was extremely predictable and then all of a sudden they started running more than 2 plays when they put Worley back in

Did Peterman play well? No but he certainly didn't get any help
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I understand, and I can see why it's exciting to think he could be some heroic starter. It's like this: the road would be painted perfectly for Peterman. Utah State is an "easy" enough team that he could come out and redeem himself. He comes out and slaughters Arky State the next week and his confidence will probably be through the roof. All of a sudden he is a serious threat to Oklahoma.

The thing is, Worley is already a serious threat. He was a serious threat to Georgia last year, he was a serious threat to SC, and honestly he was a serious threat to Florida the second half of that game. It looked like we may possible come back and win when he went in the game. As it stands right now if he has a Georgia-esque game (where he threw for more yards than Aaron Murray) then we have a serious shot at beating Oklahoma. Worley will start. He gives us the best chance to win.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
This is hilarious. A couple of good practice reports about Peterman, and people are all of a sudden so quick to defend him and blame everyone else for the Florida debacle.

A month ago there wasn't a Vols fan alive that would have defended Peterman regarding that game. I guess hearing he's had some good practices somehow changed everything about last year?
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I don't really have any preference which quarterback is back there, as long as we win. I think part of the "defense" of Peterman is people getting tired of seeing others just bash him relentlessly.
Did he play well against Florida? No
Did he make a few bad decisions and look like someone starting their first collegiate game as QB? Yes

His worst decision came on the play where the broke his hand(that ball should never have been thrown, he was trying to force it), with a close second to the O-line freeze play. Other than that I saw the O-line get tossed around and the receivers drop a few they should have caught.

When you are that amped up, you usually do not feel the injury severity until later. He was actually not that bad on the short routes even after injury. The play before his second INT, he got popped again by a rusher, and it looked like that did him in, because after that he had no thumb control to grip and rip.
 
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sofflavol said:
Makes me nauseous seeing how many (READ) options the qb refused to keep...Worley was the same way against Oregon it's painful when they refused to keep the defense honest.
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I have theory - Last year, being the first year running the read option, I think most of the time the qb's did not have an option. IMO, I do not think they trusted our qb's to make that decision very often last year. I believe that will change this year and we will see more keeps by the qb.
 
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Vol865 said:
Nobody seems to realize how bad the play calling was the first half of the UF game. It was literally run, run, screen, reverse
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The play calling would have been OK had we not dropped so many passes (Smith). I work overseas and did not get to see it live, so you can imagine how frustrated I felt watching these vids.

Edit: It was refreshing to see the effort from the RBs in both games. 2nd and 3rd surges on every run.
 
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that just showed me what i was thinking all season last year...our oline was overated missed alot of blocks!!!
 
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Vol865 said:
I've never waivered in my opinion.....I've always said Peterman didn't get a fair chance with the playcalling. It was extremely predictable and then all of a sudden they started running more than 2 plays when they put Worley back in

Did Peterman play well? No but he certainly didn't get any help
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What? So they called plays so that Peterman would fail but then as soon as Worley comes in they deviate from the gameplan and call a completely different game?

Could it just be that Peterman was so rattled, so devoid of any poise that he couldn't check them into the right plays, out of the wrong plays, into the correct protections. In short, Peterman couldn't command and manage the offense where Worley could?
 
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KBVol said:
What? So they called plays so that Peterman would fail but then as soon as Worley comes in they deviate from the gameplan and call a completely different game?

Could it just be that Peterman was so rattled, so devoid of any poise that he couldn't check them into the right plays, out of the wrong plays, into the correct protections. In short, Peterman couldn't command and manage the offense where Worley could?
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Could it be that your expectations from a freshman QB making his first start are unreasonable?

Could it be that freshman QB's getting their feet wet don't normally have great command and perfect reads?
 
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