Pipe Bombs planted, part of Jan6 obvious setup.

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lostsheep said:
Unfortunately too many folks have only seen the sanitized version of Jan 6th events shown on Fox, OAN, and NewsMax.

It's unbelievable how many conversations I've had with Trump supporters where they swear up and down he didn't make a ridiculous comment, only to be flabbergasted when shown the actual video of it happening.

Of course the opposite phenomena exists for Biden lovers that watch nothing but left-leaning networks.
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On the flip side, a lot of the sentences/punishment handed down to those mental midgets were beyond excessive.

Except for that chick who was shot.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I always love the histrionics of condemning the protestors on Jan 6 of insurrection and offers as proof that the most heavily armed civilian population in the world would execute a real insurrection by… breaking windows. 😂
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I doubt many showed up that day with the intention of storming the Capitol but the mob mentality set off by Trump's rhetoric got them all lathered up.
 
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I wouldn't say with absolute certainty the government or its agents didn't have a hand in what occurred on Jan 6. But in the absence of compelling evidence, that idea remains conspiratorial.

I wouldn't be dismissive about our government abstaining from the event because this is the same government which ex post facto is known to have actively discrediting notable people in our history...like MLK jr. Those efforts were to contain him, his efforts, and to persuade public opinion.

In fact, I watched with my own eyes the government burn down a private complex with women and children inside on live TV.
 
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McDad said:
I do not agree it is odd. All we have, according to OP's linked video, is blurry, low frame rate video of a person. There aren't any identifying characteristics about the person, no cars, no license plates. I mean where would an investigative agency even start with no substantive clues?
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Correct, that’s all WE have. Considering this person was a potential terrorist, they should be a high priority. I guarantee, that in this age of surveillance (especially in DC), there is footage of this person either entering a residence or a vehicle that hasn’t been made public.
 
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Septic said:
I don't think they were traitorous as defined, but their actions that day were certainly un-American, disloyal to the Republic and certainly not Patriotic. Which is ironic because that's certainly how they wanted to be portrayed. The J6 crowd was the proverbial frog in the boiling water - they were whipped into such a frenzy by Trump and his cohorts that it never occurred to them that they were doing anything wrong during the insurrectionist riots.
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Do you really believe they were "whipped into a frenzy" by Trump?
 
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McDad said:
Do you really believe they were "whipped into a frenzy" by Trump?
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Yep, he and his minions are wholly responsible for inciting that crowd that day. And this doesn't even take into account the evidence that the Congressional committee had that trumps team were aware of plans to march and that folks should be there because it was going to "get wild."

Do you think if he hadn't told them to "march on the capitol and fight like hell" that Ashley Babbit might still be alive?

Giuliani, who was escorted from the White House grounds, said in video testimony his argument had been: "You guys are not tough enough. Or maybe I put it another way: You're a bunch of pussies, excuse the expression. I'm almost certain the word was used."
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Two witnesses testified in the hearing room - Stephen Ayres, who has pleaded guilty to a federal charge for participating in the attack on the Capitol, and Jason Van Tatenhove, a former spokesperson for the Oath Keepers.
Ayres said he joined the march because he believed Trump, and that he had since lost his job, sold his house and no longer believes Trump's "Big Lie" that the election had been stolen. "It changed my life, you know, definitely not for the good."
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davethevol said:
Correct, that’s all WE have. Considering this person was a potential terrorist, they should be a high priority. I guarantee, that in this age of surveillance (especially in DC), there is footage of this person either entering a residence or a vehicle that hasn’t been made public.
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The conjecture and connecting the dots is dangerous territory. You can't guarantee there is footage, or at least helpful footage. And, since you can't make that conjecture absolute, you can't go on to add conspiracy by stating it hasn't been released.

I think you can reasonably assert that the political desire to 'get to the bottom' of the event is minimal. Both sides have dug their trenches for the war...which is all the partisans really care about.
 
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McDad said:
When Tennesseans were fighting against a proposed state income tax, drivers clogged the road around the capitol, protesters banged on the large glass panels to make noise to disrupt the lawmakers sessions, and some glass panels were broken.

Would you consider that protest peaceful? If not, was it a coup?
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Some lawmakers were actually assaulted if I'm not mistaken.
 
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Septic said:
Yep, he and his minions are wholly responsible for inciting that crowd that day.

Do you think if he hadn't told them to "march on the capitol and fight like hell" that Ashley Babbit might still be alive?
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To be transparent, I am ill equipped to make conclusions because I didn't read a transcript or watch video of his speech. Marching on the Captiol and fight like hell doesn't mean, to me, to be destructive or go inside and cause havoc.
Wasn't there like several thousand who were present at the rally and a few hundred or less who penetrated the building?
 
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Septic said:
I doubt many showed up that day with the intention of storming the Capitol but the mob mentality set off by Trump's rhetoric got them all lathered up.
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Oh I’ve said laws were indeed broken. I don’t see insurrection or treason or whatever being one of them.

Let’s be honest we celebrate actual treason every July 4th. And I’m glad we do
 
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McDad said:
The conjecture and connecting the dots is dangerous territory. You can't guarantee there is footage, or at least helpful footage. And, since you can't make that conjecture absolute, you can't go on to add conspiracy by stating it hasn't been released.

I think you can reasonably assert that the political desire to 'get to the bottom' of the event is minimal. Both sides have dug their trenches for the war...which is all the partisans really care about.
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I promise you, there is footage. One of the agencies knows who the person is. The surveillance tech that DC and New York have are like something out of a Sci-Fi movie

theintercept.com

Inside D.C. Police’s Sprawling Network of Surveillance

To surveil protesters and other everyday residents, D.C. police have entangled themselves in a web of surveillance technology.
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Septic said:
Yep, he and his minions are wholly responsible for inciting that crowd that day. And this doesn't even take into account the evidence that the Congressional committee had that trumps team were aware of plans to march and that folks should be there because it was going to "get wild."

Do you think if he hadn't told them to "march on the capitol and fight like hell" that Ashley Babbit might still be alive?





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I replied before you added the quotes.

The guy who lost his job and no longer believes Trump, he joined gave explanation as to why he joined the march. Is the term "the march" the same as "stormed the capitol'? I ask because I think I am confused. I thought there was a rally, speeches, marches (public protest) which many thousand participated in while a few hundred or less actually breached the Capitol.
 
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davethevol said:
I promise you, there is footage. One of the agencies knows who the person is. The surveillance tech that DC and New York have are like something out of a Sci-Fi movie

theintercept.com

Inside D.C. Police’s Sprawling Network of Surveillance

To surveil protesters and other everyday residents, D.C. police have entangled themselves in a web of surveillance technology.
theintercept.com theintercept.com
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I agree there is surveillance capability. But I am sorry, you cannot unequivocally state footage exists (imply it is provides evidence), an agency knows who the person is, and that footage and identity are being intentionally suppressed. You can believe it all you want. And you can promise me you believe it. But belief doesn't make it so.
 
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Septic said:
People trying to turn the J6 shenanigans back on to the government and or liberal 'agents' are a special kind of stupid. Sorry, not sorry.

I get that it's tough for the MAGA goofs to reconcile that their people would be capable of acting like traitorous douche-nozzles, but the video doesn't lie.

These sorts of youtube videos are comical and just goofy propaganda designed to help the MAGA crowd feel better about the events that transpired; attempting to give them some sort of moral or ethical 'out' in their own heads where they can still feel good about their choice in following Donny the dipsh*t.
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Lmao...youre better than this. I think. Smarter than this regardless...

Oh wait ..you didnt even watch the video footage yourself did you?

So the VP of the USA was in a building where PIPE BOMBS were planted outside...but the Dems , FBI, and the complicit leftist MSM never said a peep about it???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. GTFO
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Oh I’ve said laws were indeed broken. I don’t see insurrection or treason or whatever being one of them.

Let’s be honest we celebrate actual treason every July 4th. And I’m glad we do
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The labeling of the event as insurrection, coup, or treasonous is where J6 jumped the shark for me. The political opponents wanted to add as much weight as possible to the event for political expediency. In doing so, they watered down the event because now we don't discuss the stupidity and illegality of the event as much as we fight over the way it is sold to use from politicians through the media.
 
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McDad said:
I replied before you added the quotes.

The guy who lost his job and no longer believes Trump, he joined gave explanation as to why he joined the march. Is the term "the march" the same as "stormed the capitol'? I ask because I think I am confused. I thought there was a rally, speeches, marches (public protest) which many thousand participated in while a few hundred or less actually breached the Capitol.
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I'm not sure there's a clear delineation of the march and the riots that ensued outside of that marching "on" something is tacitly different from marching "to" something. In either case, I feel like it was pretty well implied on what they were tasked to do, get to the Capitol and "stop the steal."
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Lmao...youre better than this. I think. Smarter than this regardless...

Oh wait ..you didnt even watch the video footage yourself did you?

So the VP of the USA was in a building where PIPE BOMBS were planted outside...but the Dems , FBI, and the complicit leftist MSM never said a peep about it???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. GTFO
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Sorry, I don't get my news from youtube videos. Nothing in your video was convincing.

I think it was designed for certain people to see and hear what they want to see and hear. No different from the 10,000 Mules propaganda video.
 
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