Playoff system instead of BCS

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pualsline

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ok a lot of people want the playoff system instead of the BCS bowl. I am one of those people. If I had the choice here is how I would do it. All dates would be if it were for this year.

The two main arguments are keeping the bowls for 2 reasons.

1.) tradition
2.)The money that would be lost in the bowls

The top 8 teams would get a playoff bid. (BCS rankings would stay in effect to choose the top 8 teams)

the top 7 Bowls would become part of the playoff system.

Round one there would be 4 games. So that is wouldn't interfere with other (TV ratings and what not)

Round 1
Pappajohns.com bowl Dec. 20th 11:00
Valero Alamo Bowl Dec. 20th 3:00

GMAC Bowl Dec. 21 2:00
Rose Bowl Dec. 21 7:00

Round 2
*Move the time up for the Music City Bowl to 5
*Move the emerald bowl to a later time since it is on the West coast

Sugar Bowl Dec. 26th 7:00 (winner of the pappajohns bowl and Valero) so the same preparation time is given to both teams.

Fiesta Bowl Dec. 27th 8:00 (winner of the GMAC and the Rose bowls)

Championship

Orange Bowl

8:30 Jan 7th


I would love to see a layout like this
 
#2
#2
Doesn't sound too bad. I'd still rather there be less teams. 8 should be the absolute maximum IMO.
 
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pualsline said:
The two main arguments are keeping the bowls for 2 reasons.

1.) tradition
2.)The money that would be lost in the bowls
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I know we're beating a dead horse here, but I laugh every time I see these 2 reasons given for arguments for the bowls (and I know you are just stating the fact that they are so I'm not attacking you pualsline). If these are the 2 main arguments that should tell you how weak the case is against a playoff.

1) tradition.....what tradition? It's funny the pro-BCS/bowl system people use this as a reason yet at the same time they are destroying the tradition more than anyone. From adding 50 bowl games so that making a bowl has totally lost all meaning to the conference tie-ins that make bowl matchups boring, THEY have made the bowl system a joke already.

On top of that....the argument makes absolutely no sense because as has been said a thousand times now, if we went to a playoff AT MOST you're talking 8 teams. That leaves plenty left over to keep almost all the bowls. I know it would be a tragedy to lose the New Orleans Bowl, but worry not, even it wouldn't go anywhere.

2) What loss of money. Every credible analysis I've seen states a playoff would actually generate MORE money than the BCS. And again, see 1), the bowls wouldn't be going anywhere. And please don't try to tell me a playoff would make people care less about the bowls.....I doubt it's possible to care less about most of the bowls now. Even BCS Bowls have become somewhat blah because everyone is waiting for the BCS Championship.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
2) What loss of money. Every credible analysis I've seen states a playoff would actually generate MORE money than the BCS. And again, see 1), the bowls wouldn't be going anywhere. And please don't try to tell me a playoff would make people care less about the bowls.....I doubt it's possible to care less about most of the bowls now. Even BCS Bowls have become somewhat blah because everyone is waiting for the BCS Championship.
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The loss of money that the OP is referring to is the bowl payout for the universities...I think. Simply put, Papajohns.com bring a school something like $1 mill. Outback Bowl brings a school like $3 mill. I know those figures aren't 100% accurate...but you get the point. There is much more to these bowl games than what we see on the field.

I don't think you can have a playoff system with any more 4 teams. Too many extra games. Also, by turning playoff games into "bowl games", you would be stuffing the pockets of the same, mega profitable schools on a regular basis, while denying teams like MTSU or AF an oppurtunity to represent the university in one of these smaller bowls and in turn making the university a nice little profit. Florida, Bama, and Texas could all have made a case top be in a playoff last year...same thing right now. I'm not a fan of the playoff system, unless we get rid of the +1 system and every conference adopts a conference championship game. USC and tOSU would have a clear advantage over a Texas or Florida.

Playoff system:

-drop +1 schedule and go back to 11 games
-every conference would play a CCG
-4 teams, 1 week off in between games for the NC
 
#5
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I'm fine with a 4 team playoff. 8 would be the optimal IMHO, and 16 is too many. 4 would be better than what we have now. I also agree with going back to 11 games, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
#6
#6
I like your idea. I'm just curious as to how much blue blood moaning moving the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, etc. from January 1st would cause.
 
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#9
Any particular reason you picked the Garlic Butter Bowl, GMAC Bowl and Alamo Bowl? I would think the Cotton and Capitol One would have to be in there if it were the top 7 bowls.
 
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jrobison said:
The loss of money that the OP is referring to is the bowl payout for the universities...I think. Simply put, Papajohns.com bring a school something like $1 mill. Outback Bowl brings a school like $3 mill. I know those figures aren't 100% accurate...but you get the point. There is much more to these bowl games than what we see on the field.

I don't think you can have a playoff system with any more 4 teams. Too many extra games. Also, by turning playoff games into "bowl games", you would be stuffing the pockets of the same, mega profitable schools on a regular basis, while denying teams like MTSU or AF an oppurtunity to represent the university in one of these smaller bowls and in turn making the university a nice little profit. Florida, Bama, and Texas could all have made a case top be in a playoff last year...same thing right now. I'm not a fan of the playoff system, unless we get rid of the +1 system and every conference adopts a conference championship game. USC and tOSU would have a clear advantage over a Texas or Florida.

Playoff system:

-drop +1 schedule and go back to 11 games
-every conference would play a CCG
-4 teams, 1 week off in between games for the NC
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I agree that dropping 1 game off the season would need to be done.

I really like the idea of every conference adopting a championship, but I would like for there to still be at least one at large bid for your independent teams like ND.

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your girlfriend is bangin
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Thanks and she is actually my wife...yeah...she's hott

emainvol said:
Any particular reason you picked the Garlic Butter Bowl, GMAC Bowl and Alamo Bowl? I would think the Cotton and Capitol One would have to be in there if it were the top 7 bowls.
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No the bowls are interchangable. The reason I picked GMAC was because the other had a lower rank on one of the teams I think. They are interchangable. The reason I made the schedule was to show that it was feasible.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
2) What loss of money. Every credible analysis I've seen states a playoff would actually generate MORE money than the BCS. And again, see 1), the bowls wouldn't be going anywhere. And please don't try to tell me a playoff would make people care less about the bowls.....I doubt it's possible to care less about most of the bowls now. Even BCS Bowls have become somewhat blah because everyone is waiting for the BCS Championship.
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if you don't think loss of money is a concern for dropping the bowl format then you're kidding yourself. it's one of the main reasons, if not the reason why the playoff system doesn't get more support.
 
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well, someone mentioned it earlier. The larger schools would greatly benefit from this...

Since you are having a series of games with the better teams people(people that are indifferent but love football) will want to watch the playoffs. (except for the 1 game where their team plays)

This will take away money from the smaller bowl games. I do think that overall it would make more money, but the money would be more focused on the larger school.

I think to settle the money problem you could do something along the lines of any school that is in a bowl game will get 1% of profit from each of the playoff games ticket sells. Since there are so many games you could do a smaller % for the teams. That way more schools would gain money.
 
#14
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The money argument is as simple as this... even thought logic dictates that there will be more money generated, everyone who currently has a seat at the table doesn't want to risk getting a smaller piece of pie.
 
#15
#15
Too many contract disputes, plus most of the University presidents aren't in favor of drastic changes.
 
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#17
While I'm in favor of an 8-team playoff, I can't believe the bowls that the OP put in the first round, next to the Rose Bowl.
 
#18
#18
like I said the bowls are interchangeable...the reason for the whole thing was to show it can be done
 
#19
#19
it's sad that money gets involved in a sport in which the players aren't paid.
 
#20
#20
play all the bowl games on january 1st, and if they is 2 teams left undefeated let em throw down on the third saturday of January....wait that might be going head to head with a Cowboys Divisional playoff game so the Texas fans with money are gonna either go to the NFL game or watch Texas/TCU. What would most choose?
 
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#21
I would love to see a playoff! That way a all Sec national championship game could be played! Personally I think this year the actual National championship game will be played this Saturday when Bama & Florida line up and play this Sat. I think the winner will win the BCS National Title! Me personally I'm rooting for Bama but regardless who ever wins I'll be rootingfor when they I'm assuming play Texas in January! I also don't think Texas can hang with the Speed & Strength of the SEC! Heck the SEC has got a dinasty going on now. SEC has won the last 3 BCS Titles and has won themost BCS titles of any conference since it was introduced in 98 when Tenn. Won the 1st one! Like I said I'm rooting for Bama 1 reason I hate the gators but 2 that be another SEC school with BCS Title! Tenn. LSU with 2 Florida with 2. Not sure on exact numbers but I know SEC rules!
 
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#24
My question is that since the NCAA can enforce rules and regulations then why don't they appoint the national champion?
 
#25
#25
Right. Because Tebow and Urban should get another chance to beat the Bama team they just lost to....
 
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