'25 Portal Thread

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#11,401
TrippieRedd said:
QB: Nico
RB: Bishop / Lewis
WR: Portal Guy / Matthews / Brazzell
TE: Kit / Davis
LT: Heard
LG: Preg
C: Satterwhite
RG: Moe
RT: Sanders

Maybe we find another OL in the spring portal, I do think we need another.

I think next year’s run game will be a lot like 21.
- Small had 700+ yards / Bishop
- Evans had 500+ yards / Lewis
- Wright had 400+ yards / Transfer RB

I think WRs will be improved if we can land the stud portal WR. Brazzell and Matthews both being in their 2nd year in our system. Plus you add Boo.


I don’t need to do defense, I think we’re gonna be solid once again. Josephs, Eason, Bailey, West, Hobbs, Carter, Boo, McCoy, Gibson, etc, etc
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how about instead of a 3rd string portal transfer we use one of the freshmen? Personally, I’m not investing NIL into a portal guy for him to be 3rd on the depth chart, but I’m not making those calls.
 
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Weezer said:
Didn't someone post season stats earlier that showed he had more receptions this season as their #3 WR than any of our WRs? And next year he'll probably be their #2.
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Okay?

We were 4th in rushing attempts per game, OSU was 102nd. That should also tell you something.

Passing yards per game
OSU: 23rd
UT: 90th
 
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Weezer said:
Yes. That he'd probably get more receptions there, so why transfer?


If it happens, good, but I'm not buying it until it happens.
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How do you know he will get those next year? They lose Howard and don’t have anyone that caliber next year. Whoever they put in will focus on Smith.

We focused on our strengths this year….running. Next year our game plan will be a lot different because we don’t have a Sampson. I think Nico and this offense will look like the 22 offense throwing the ball.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
How do you know he will get those next year? They lose Howard and don’t have anyone that caliber next year. Whoever they put in will focus on Smith.

We focused on our strengths this year….running. Next year our game plan will be a lot different because we don’t have a Sampson. I think Nico and this offense will look like the 22 offense throwing the ball.
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There you go Trippie, digging the hope and optimism. Heupel’s history suggests he will figure it out. Nico has a year’s experience and was getting better towards the end of the season. 22 is a high bar but I gotta believe it will be significantly better than this year in the passing game.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
Okay?

We were 4th in rushing attempts per game, OSU was 102nd. That should also tell you something.

Passing yards per game
OSU: 23rd
UT: 90th
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If only our staff could have gotten this info/stats before our game with them so that they could scheme accordingly based on our own strengths and weaknesses...unfortunately it looked like we were just pissing in the wind guessing... ;) :rolleyes:
 
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deatojl said:
The question you posed was "Has one objective expert say TN's OL play was championship caliber?" When provided evidence of objective, and credible, experts who ranked our OL as one of the 10 best in CFB, you then changed it to "last time I checked they don't hand out 10 championships in college football and followed that up with a statement claiming we are convincing ourselves there are no issues in that room. None of those things are equivalent, at all. For one, "championship caliber" and "championship winning" are two different things. If being championship caliber only applies to the championship winning team, then that's quite an exclusive club. I don't think you will find a person on here that believes there weren't any issues with the OL but that does not mean that no objective experts viewed that unit as capable of competing for a championship. In case you are interested, here is the write up on the Joe More award site regarding the reasons our OL was selected as a semifinalist:
Tennessee (8-1)

  • Only 18% of runs saw contact at or behind the line of scrimmage (9th lowest in FBS).
  • Averaging 2.66 seconds to pressure (14th best in FBS).
  • The Vols are rushing for 257.0 rush yds per game at home this season (9th in FBS).
  • At least 140 rush yds in every game this season.
  • Tennessee offense is averaging, 471.6 yards per game, which is 3rd in the SEC and eighth in the FBS.
  • The catalyst for a rushing offense that is leading the SEC in rushing for the second straight year, averaging 235.1 yards per game, which is also 9th in the FBS.
  • Highlighted by an impressive 214-yard rushing performance against No. 9 Alabama, the most rushing yards allowed by the Tide all season.
Offensive line coach: Glen Elarbee

In case you have any questions regarding the credentials for the Joe Moore selection committee, Cole Cubelic is their selection chairman and guys like Aaron Taylor, Lance Zierlein and Harry Heistand were on the voting committee.
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This should just end the discussion of firing Elarbee
 
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TrippieRedd said:
QB: Nico
RB: Bishop / Lewis
WR: Portal Guy / Matthews / Brazzell
TE: Kit / Davis
LT: Heard
LG: Preg
C: Satterwhite
RG: Moe
RT: Sanders

Maybe we find another OL in the spring portal, I do think we need another.

I think next year’s run game will be a lot like 21.
- Small had 700+ yards / Bishop
- Evans had 500+ yards / Lewis
- Wright had 400+ yards / Transfer RB

I think WRs will be improved if we can land the stud portal WR. Brazzell and Matthews both being in their 2nd year in our system. Plus you add Boo.


I don’t need to do defense, I think we’re gonna be solid once again. Josephs, Eason, Bailey, West, Hobbs, Carter, Boo, McCoy, Gibson, etc, etc
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Personally, I'd like to see Boo get a shot at WR. Kinda reminds me a bit of JJ.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Facing reality isn’t bitching and moaning lol
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Orange_Crush said:
We've won 30 over the past 3 years, and made the playoffs this year. That's the best stretch in decades during a rebuild PROCESS after we'd been left for dead, under NCAA investigation, having been found to have paid players, while recruiting against negative recruiting rumors of an impending practical death penalty, and the fans wondering if we'd EVER be relevant again.

But by all means, let's pick at scabs.
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There's some reality.
 
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GVol1966 said:
Yeah but do the people that give that award actually watch the O lines play or just look at stats?

We rack up stats against UTC, UTEp , Kent st and other weak teams.

How good we actually are is proven against
Above average teams.
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I think they’re 100% more familiar than you or I with the amount of access they get that we don’t.

But in the same way ya can’t judge the OL just against weak teams you can’t only look at the performance against the 2 most talented teams we lost to as well.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Texas was in the game until the last drive; the Oregon game was over after the first quarter. Our game was over after the first drive of the third quarter, so no we didn’t out perform Texas but absolutely Oregon. I was more concerned with our defense vs Ohio State than our oline. We didn’t really stop them the entire game
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Ohio state kind of shot themselves in the foot in that Texas game with penalties as well. The personal foul on Henderson likely prevented a score, at least a FG.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
You asked ME for an objective source that believes our OL is good. The Joe Moore award is THE award for OL play, nothing higher exists in college football.
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My stars, all of you responding bc I question Elarbee, acting like I want to fire the whole staff and start over. I started this whole thing saying it was not irrational to criticize Elarbee.

When I asked for an example of an expert claiming they were championship caliber, I never said I would change my opinion if you found one. Yes MoCo, you found one congratulations! I never disputed what you posted.

Do you, and all the others trying to spike the ball over that award, think bc I didn't expect there to be one, that somehow now I've lost my right to disagree???

Phillip Fulmer thought Steve Marshall was a championship caliber OL coach and, despite being more of an OL expert than anyone on that committee, HE WAS WRONG. Marshall failed to get championship level play out of championship level talent. So experts can be wrong, as can message board idiots like us.

Elarbee had 4 seniors and the top OT in the portal as his starting OL. He SHOULD turn out a finalist for the award. AND when his unit fails to stand up against the people we have to beat to win a championship, then I don't think it is unfair to assign some accountability to that coach. If you read from my original response to SF that is all my core argument has been since the beginning.
Smh...
 
#11,420
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vol9799 said:
My stars, all of you responding bc I question Elarbee, acting like I want to fire the whole staff and start over. I started this whole thing saying it was not irrational to criticize Elarbee.

When I asked for an example of an expert claiming they were championship caliber, I never said I would change my opinion if you found one. Yes MoCo, you found one congratulations! I never disputed what you posted.

Do you, and all the others trying to spike the ball over that award, think bc I didn't expect there to be one, that somehow now I've lost my right to disagree???

Phillip Fulmer thought Steve Marshall was a championship caliber OL coach and, despite being more of an OL expert than anyone on that committee, HE WAS WRONG. Marshall failed to get championship level play out of championship level talent. So experts can be wrong, as can message board idiots like us.

Elarbee had 4 seniors and the top OT in the portal as his starting OL. He SHOULD turn out a finalist for the award. AND when his unit fails to stand up against the people we have to beat to win a championship, then I don't think it is unfair to assign some accountability to that coach. If you read from my original response to SF that is all my core argument has been since the beginning.
Smh...
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We won't expect you to change your opinion if you won't expect us to value it.
 
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vol9799 said:
My stars, all of you responding bc I question Elarbee, acting like I want to fire the whole staff and start over. I started this whole thing saying it was not irrational to criticize Elarbee.

When I asked for an example of an expert claiming they were championship caliber, I never said I would change my opinion if you found one. Yes MoCo, you found one congratulations! I never disputed what you posted.

Do you, and all the others trying to spike the ball over that award, think bc I didn't expect there to be one, that somehow now I've lost my right to disagree???

Phillip Fulmer thought Steve Marshall was a championship caliber OL coach and, despite being more of an OL expert than anyone on that committee, HE WAS WRONG. Marshall failed to get championship level play out of championship level talent. So experts can be wrong, as can message board idiots like us.

Elarbee had 4 seniors and the top OT in the portal as his starting OL. He SHOULD turn out a finalist for the award. AND when his unit fails to stand up against the people we have to beat to win a championship, then I don't think it is unfair to assign some accountability to that coach. If you read from my original response to SF that is all my core argument has been since the beginning.
Smh...
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You’re overreacting.
 
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