Position NEEDS for Next Year?

#27
#27
FrostyDawg said:
RB - 2
DT - 4 w/1 JUCO 3yr eligible if possible
DE - at least 1
OG - 2,3 if one can do center
OT - 2
QB - at least 1
WR - 3?
LB - at least 1 of each position
DB - 2 corner 2 safety
Kicker & punter makes 23
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Why do the Vols need a punter they have tommy Townsend who will be a redshift freshmen I think.a punter would be a waste of space when it could be used elsewhere.
 
#28
#28
I think we should sign the #1 guy at each position in 2017 regardless of * rating.
 
#30
#30
Recruit coachable kids, with strength and speed - that bleed Big Orange and have a relentless drive to win. The rest takes care of itself.
 
#31
#31
4 DTs
3 DE
2 RB
2 WR
4 OL
3 LB
2 DB
1 TE
1 K


And no projects or early reaches. Its time to start taking a class full of studs.
 
#32
#32
Volnukem said:
Williams, Rochell, Stocstill, and Folger are not on scholarship. So we only have 11 seniors graduating with 3-4 possible for the NFL draft.
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We always lose a couple to homesickness/roster/breaking team rules.

No way we sign 15 or less with the amount of talent floating around TN next year.
 
#33
#33
Rudy123 said:
Lets be sober about this. Cam & JRM & Kamara remained at U.T. because their draft projection was not as good as they had hoped. They did not remain here because of their love for U.T. So, my guess is that if Hurd gets a good projection in the draft, then he will leave. Doudt he stays here for the love of U.T.
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Did they tell you why they stayed? My guess is it had just as much to do with a shot at a national championship as it did draft grade. But that's just my guess. I don't know them.
 
#34
#34
head1 said:
4 DTs
3 DE
2 RB
2 WR
4 OL
3 LB
2 DB
1 TE
1 K


And no projects or early reaches. Its time to start taking a class full of studs.
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You do realize CBJ has signed 58 4/5 stars in 3 years, right? It's not like we aren't signing "studs" as you say.
 
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#36
#36
3 DTs..3 interior Ol, with at least one being a very proficient Center to take CTs place...1 OT...2 RBs...a big time MLB...1-2 OlBs...2 DEs...Those are our biggest NEEDS IMO.
 
#37
#37
VOLtilldeath said:
Why do the Vols need a punter they have tommy Townsend who will be a redshift freshmen I think.a punter would be a waste of space when it could be used elsewhere.
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With the margin of error so tight, specifically in the SEC, field position is the single most important part of the game.

I believe every single signing class UT should try to sign an elite punter and keep one starting and one red-shirted. If not every class, at least every other...........
 
#38
#38
VOLywood said:
You do realize CBJ has signed 58 4/5 stars in 3 years, right? It's not like we aren't signing "studs" as you say.
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You know I wanted to come back and say something like we are still not keeping up with the rest of the SEC etc etc etc but I just cant since I decided to research it before sounding like a fool.

Last 3 classes per Rivals 4 and 5 stars..

Alabama 53
Tennessee 46
Auburn 45
LSU 43
UGA 39
UF 30

The last two classes just spoiled me :)
 
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#39
#39
you have to have a punishing RB in the SEC.
Saban already has THE top two RB for next year committed.
We need to emulate this!
 
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#41
#41
Can somebody explain to me how we sign 25 next year?

Here is our depth chart

*Didn't add Stocstill, Jumper or ZStewart


SR (12)
DOBBS
CROOM
BLANC
BLAIR
WEISMAN
LEWIS
DANNYO
VEREEN
JRM
BYNUM
SUTTON
FOREMAN

STOCSTILL?

JR (23)
HURD
AK
MALONE
SMITH
JGEORGE
WOLFE
THOMAS
KENDRICK
ROBERTSON
SANDERS
AJOHNSON
VICKERS
BARNETT
MIXON
JAKOBJ
EL BERRY
CMCDOWELL
JUSTINMARTIN
MOSELEY
DHENDERSON
TKJR
EV BERRY
MEDLEY
DANIEL

JUMPER?

SO (24)
DORMADY
JKELLY
JYOUNG
JJJENNINGS
RESORT
CREAMERRS
RAULERSONRS
MOSLEYRS
JJONES
HALL
MCKENZIE
PICOU
TUTTLE
KPHILLIPS
JKONGBO
DKIRK
ASMITH
BATESRS
GBRYANTRS
QSAPPRS
rsGAULDEN
MICAH
GRIFFIN
DMILLERRS

FR (25)
SJONESRS
PERRYRS
DRICHMONDRS
VBOULWARERS
LOVINGOODRS
BUTCHERRS
TAYLORRS
TOWNSENDRS

JGUARANTANO
CFA
LWILLIAMS
MCALLAWAY
CHENDERSON
BJOHNSON
DBROOKS
APOPE
MTATUM
NNIEHAUS
RJOHNSON
BITULI
BLAKELY
BYRD
BUCHANEN
WARRIOR
MOQSBOURNE

By my count we have 84 players on scholarship without Stoc, Jumper or Stewart.


We lose 12 SRs, that leaves 72 scholarships.

Barnett, Hurd, and AK go early. That leave 69 scholarships for 2017.

Unless we plan on having lots of transfer other guys go early not sure how we can get close to 25 for 2017.
 
#42
#42
Yeah that's not accounting transfers before this season and after this season. Also it's rumored Young may never play again due to injuries. Also not saying it will happen but guys like Kongbo and Wolf could very well blow up and declare for the draft
 
#43
#43
SlappyVol said:
Can somebody explain to me how we sign 25 next year?

Here is our depth chart

*Didn't add Stocstill, Jumper or ZStewart


SR (12)
DOBBS
CROOM
BLANC
BLAIR
WEISMAN
LEWIS
DANNYO
VEREEN
JRM
BYNUM
SUTTON
FOREMAN

STOCSTILL?

JR (23)
HURD
AK
MALONE
SMITH
JGEORGE
WOLFE
THOMAS
KENDRICK
ROBERTSON
SANDERS
AJOHNSON
VICKERS
BARNETT
MIXON
JAKOBJ
EL BERRY
CMCDOWELL
JUSTINMARTIN
MOSELEY
DHENDERSON
TKJR
EV BERRY
MEDLEY
DANIEL

JUMPER?

SO (24)
DORMADY
JKELLY
JYOUNG
JJJENNINGS
RESORT
CREAMERRS
RAULERSONRS
MOSLEYRS
JJONES
HALL
MCKENZIE
PICOU
TUTTLE
KPHILLIPS
JKONGBO
DKIRK
ASMITH
BATESRS
GBRYANTRS
QSAPPRS
rsGAULDEN
MICAH
GRIFFIN
DMILLERRS

FR (25)
SJONESRS
PERRYRS
DRICHMONDRS
VBOULWARERS
LOVINGOODRS
BUTCHERRS
TAYLORRS
TOWNSENDRS

JGUARANTANO
CFA
LWILLIAMS
MCALLAWAY
CHENDERSON
BJOHNSON
DBROOKS
APOPE
MTATUM
NNIEHAUS
RJOHNSON
BITULI
BLAKELY
BYRD
BUCHANEN
WARRIOR
MOQSBOURNE

By my count we have 84 players on scholarship without Stoc, Jumper or Stewart.


We lose 12 SRs, that leaves 72 scholarships.

Barnett, Hurd, and AK go early. That leave 69 scholarships for 2017.

Unless we plan on having lots of transfer other guys go early not sure how we can get close to 25 for 2017.
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I am guessing there will be more "attrition" this spring or early summer with players "transferring"
 
#44
#44
Biggest needs IMO:

RB. Biggest need. Losing Kamara and probably Hurd. That's a lot to replace, but these kids should see an opportunity to come in and contribute immediately. Should be in good position to bring in some elite talent.

DE. We could lose A LOT here, if Barnett and Kongbo both jump. Vereen, Mixon and Lewis are gone regardless if I'm not mistaken. The good thing is that we have some very talented players waiting their turn - Phillips, Taylor, and Smith all have excellent potential. Still, need to restock the cupboard - maybe even look at another JUCO DE if Barnett and Kongbo both look likely to go pro.

Interior OL. I believe all of our '16 OL commits project to OT, which means we effectively didn't take any interior offensive linemen in this class. Need to make up for that in '17 - Thomas and Robertson both likely have two years left but this isn't a position where you want to rely on freshmen... get some premium talent in and let them do work on the practice field and in the weight room before they have to face the fire.

DT. We aren't in immediate danger here, with only O'Brien slated to leave after next season. The potential problem is the year after that. Johnson and Vickers are gone, and both Tuttle and Kahlil become draft-eligible - and have the talent to bounce. Need to prepare for that now - would love to get a couple of elite guys ready to carry the torch starting in 2018.

TE. Croom is gone, and Ethan Wolf has the talent to jump after his junior year. That could leave us with a lot of potential uncertainty - Creamer and J. Johnson have yet to prove that they deserve snaps. IMO Pope is a sleeper candidate coming in, but he hasn't earned anything yet. Brooks has the most natural talent of the three but needs to get healthy. Not an immediate concern here, but a situation that merits watching - if Wolf jumps and none of the young guys step up, we could have a hole here.

LB. This is low on the list because I believe we already have the pieces here... just need them to develop. McDowell, Bates, El. Berry, Bryant, Sapp, and the incoming freshmen all have tools. Like TE, LB only becomes a problem if several of these players fail to develop as anticipated.
 
#46
#46
VolPack22 said:
There's no guarantee Hurd will be leaving. Who knows, he may love UT so much he decides to stay for his senior year. We saw Cam and JRM do it. I do think Kamara is gone since he was already considering this year. We still have Kelly, Young, and now Carlin. I think even if we miss out on a big time RB and just get a quality one we should still be in good shape. Nice to have a backup plan just in case Hurd does leave though.
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100% chance Hurd goes pro imo
 
#47
#47
A lot of people on here are predicting signing a full class next year? I think we only sign about 18 or 19. We won't sign a full class until the original class of 30 are seniors. Like someone posted we only have about 15 players leaving next year and that includes underclassmen declaring early.

Our class of 2018 will be the big class and I think you can take that into account with what we will sign next year.

1- OT we have the two boys from TN Mays and Wray coming in 2018
2- OG just for filling a need
3- DT we need to fill here, surprised we didn't get HS DT this year
1- Safety we are loaded now at this position- Gibbs
1- corner see safety
3- DEs we lose quite a few next year
1- QB always need one
2- RBs we need to fill here
2- LBs I think we are still a little top heavy here
2- Wrs I think we can get away with two very good ones
0- TEs we don't need a TE next year

That's 18 total

We could probably get quite a few players for TN alone

My top six would be:

Stevens, Higgins, Phillips, Grey,
Richardson and Bond

To supplement those I would like to see us get

Foster, Gibbs, Donovan peoples, Crosby, Riley, Akers, MacKenzie, Jordan Williams and leave final 4 or 5 to see who makes their mark next year.
 
#48
#48
Catbone said:
100% chance Hurd goes pro imo
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Did we not all think Sutton was close to 100% gone after some people had him going in the 1st round? I'm not saying that he won't go given the opportunity of being a high draft pick. I would be glad for him if he did forego his senior year but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he decided to stay for his last year. Some kids really do love the college life.
 
#49
#49
Smokeyshowl66 said:
Recruit coachable kids, with strength and speed - that bleed Big Orange and have a relentless drive to win. The rest takes care of itself.
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Uh, no it doesn't. You need guys who are football players who work hard and who hate to lose. Oh yeah, and fast and strong. As long as they bleed orange while they're here, I don't care what color they bled before they got here.
 
#50
#50
VolPack22 said:
Did we not all think Sutton was close to 100% gone after some people had him going in the 1st round? I'm not saying that he won't go given the opportunity of being a high draft pick. I would be glad for him if he did forego his senior year but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he decided to stay for his last year. Some kids really do love the college life.
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only so many carries in his legs.. Go make money
 
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