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#26
#26
The Fl-FSU game is the second half of the doubleheader with you guys on the 24th, which means we will know at that point whether we are playing for anything other than pride.
 
#28
#28
lawgator1 said:
The Fl-FSU game is the second half of the doubleheader with you guys on the 24th, which means we will know at that point whether we are playing for anything other than pride.
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Uhhh, UF/FSU has no bearing on the SEC-E race, so really, win or lose, you're playing for pride.
 
#29
#29
VolinArizona said:
Uhhh, UF/FSU has no bearing on the SEC-E race, so really, win or lose, you're playing for pride.
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There is one scenario where it matters.

If UGA wins this weekend, then UF is eliminated from the SECE. But, if you guys then go on to lose to Ky, then we can come in as the SEC #2 and backdoor our way into a BCS game.
 
#30
#30
1. LSU
2. Oklahoma
3. West Virginia
4. Kansas
5. Missouri
6. UGA
7. Ohio St
8. ASU
9. USC
10. Hawaii
11. Va Tech
12. Texas
13. Florida
14. Clemson
15. Tennessee
16. Boise St
17. BC
18. Illinois
19. UVA
20. Cincy
21. UK
22. UM
23. PSU
24. Wisconsin
25. Auburn- Auburn is probaly better than ten teams up there
 
#31
#31
lawgator1 said:
There is one scenario where it matters.

If UGA wins this weekend, then UF is eliminated from the SECE. But, if you guys then go on to lose to Ky, then we can come in as the SEC #2 and backdoor our way into a BCS game.
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And the UF - FSU game still has no meaning in the SEC east race.
 
#32
#32
justingroves said:
And the UF - FSU game still has no meaning in the SEC east race.
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couldn't a three/four way tie come down to highest BCS ranking? If UGA and Tennessee both falter, and that's the case, the UF-FSU tilt would matter, correct?
 
#33
#33
volfanbill said:
couldn't a three/four way tie come down to highest BCS ranking? If UGA and Tennessee both falter, and that's the case, the UF-FSU tilt would matter, correct?
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yes, it could come down to that if all other tie breakers in conf. were the same.....but if TN and GA both lose, then FL wins the East, because they have a better division record than GA, and they own the head to head over TN. but that only works in a 3 way tie for the East.

had all three had the same division record, it goes to common opponents, west w/l etc...and i think the last one is the BCS rankings........
 
#34
#34
jakez4ut said:
yes, it could come down to that if all other tie breakers in conf. were the same.....but if TN and GA both lose, then FL wins the East, because they have a better division record than GA, and they own the head to head over TN. but that only works in a 3 way tie for the East.

had all three had the same division record, it goes to common opponents, west w/l etc...and i think the last one is the BCS rankings........
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i knew there were all sorts of kinks, just didn't know the order. However, correct me if i'm wrong, but what's the point of doing a west w/l record? If they are tied, and the division record is the same, wouldn't the west record be the same as well?

I admit, i've gone the mass communications/sport management route simply to stay out of math class, but that sounds simple to me.
 
#35
#35
1. LSU
2. Oklahoma
3. Missouri
4. Kansas
5. Arizona State
6. West Virginia
7. Oregon
8. Ohio State
9. USC
10. Texas
11. Virginia Tech
12. Georgia
13. Florida
14. Hawaii
15. Clemson
16. Tennessee
17. Virginia
18. Illinois
19. Boise State
20. Kentucky
21. Cincinnati
22. Wisconsin
23. Auburn
24. Boston College
25. Penn State
 
#36
#36
volfanbill said:
i knew there were all sorts of kinks, just didn't know the order. However, correct me if i'm wrong, but what's the point of doing a west w/l record? If they are tied, and the division record is the same, wouldn't the west record be the same as well?

I admit, i've gone the mass communications/sport management route simply to stay out of math class, but that sounds simple to me.
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yes, that is correct, i mis spoke..er, typed..i meant it in regards to common opponents.....GA beat Bama, TN lost to Bama, FL lost to Auburn, GA beat Auburn etc....:thumbsup:
 
#37
#37
Can you actually let UF over UGA because of a better Division record, but let the determination of UT be because of head to head? That sounds a little hypocritical.

However, UF still wins the east if UT loses, because it will give UF a better division record than both us and uga. But i'm still confused about the first part. Say we had lost to Arky and UF, UT and UGA all had three losses. Is it really possible to say Florida wins because they have a better division record than UGA, and beat UT in head to head? How does UGA beating UF not factor into that equation?
 
#38
#38
volfanbill said:
Can you actually let UF over UGA because of a better Division record, but let the determination of UT be because of head to head? That sounds a little hypocritical.

However, UF still wins the east if UT loses, because it will give UF a better division record than both us and uga. But i'm still confused about the first part. Say we had lost to Arky and UF, UT and UGA all had three losses. Is it really possible to say Florida wins because they have a better division record than UGA, and beat UT in head to head? How does UGA beating UF not factor into that equation?
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it does in a two way tie, in a three way tie where GA, FL and TN have the same Conf. record, each beating the other, and having equal losses, it looks like this: and let's assume that GA loses to KY and we lost to ARK and win out against KY and Vandy, just for argument's sake:

FL 5-3, l's to LSU, Aub, GA
TN 5-3, l's to FL, ARK, Bama
GA 5-3, L's to TN, SC, KY

the first tie breaker is division w/l record:

FL 4-1
TN-4-1
GA-2-3

that eliminates GA, and FL, by virtue of the win over TN, with identical division records, gets the East.

now, knowing that we've already beaten ARK, say we lose to KY and GA loses to KY:

FL--5-3, l's to GA, LSU, Aub
TN--5-3, l's to FL, Bama, KY
GA--5-3, l's to TN, KY, SC

division records:
FL--4-1
TN--3-2
GA--2-3

FL gets the nod.

the only way GA gets in to the title game is by us dropping a game, and them beating KY, do that, they're in, cause GA and FL would have identicl conf. w/l records and GA beat 'em head to head.

FL needs us both to lose, and they're in.

we just have to win.
 
#39
#39
wow.. jakez.. thanks for taking the time to write all that out. You're the man. crystal clear.
 
#43
#43
And I'm also semi-sure that when it goes to "Division W/L record" it would see UT and UF 4-1, and then go to the next tiebreaker. I think.
 
#44
#44
VolinArizona said:
And I'm also semi-sure that when it goes to "Division W/L record" it would see UT and UF 4-1, and then go to the next tiebreaker. I think.
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that is correct. it eliminates teams to get to a two way tie breaker, in doing so, between the four, if they all finished 5-3 under the same scenarios i've described above, that would look like this from a divisional stand point:

UF-4-1
UT-3-2
UK-4-1
GA--2-3

that eliminates GA and TN, and you're left with UK and UF, UF owns the head to head, FL still goes.
 
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