Praising Islam in the White House.

[TennTradition]

Easter and Christmas actually have nothing to do with Christianity whatsoever. They were pagan festivals "borrowed" by the Catholic church to try and get said pagans to join the church (that's the short paraphrased version). Kind of like these companies that take a video game and make a "Christian" version of the game.

I don't see why people who refer to themselves as Christians give two craps about the holidays because again, they have nothing to do with being a Christian, at all.

I think that while you are historically accurate, you are not correct when you say that these holidays have nothing to do with being a Christian. These holidays mark the two most important events of Christianity, whether or not the timing is correctly associated with said event. The act of celebration of these events is an important component of Christianity, it seems to me.

 

[gsvol]

Oh wait, now I remember, we have muslims to thank for a much improved airport security system and reason enough to create a federal Homeland Security Department of dubious merit, especially under a regime that considers it's citizens who promote traditional american values as potential terrorists.

The White House has released a list of some of the guests expected to attend the Ramadan dinner hosted by President Obama.

Cabinet members, members of Congress, ambassadors from around the world and many members of the Muslim community were expected to attend.

CABINET

Secretary Robert Gates, Department of Defense

Attorney General Eric Holder, Department of Justice

Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Health and Human Services

DEPUTY CABINET SECRETARIES

Deputy Secretary Dennis Hightower, Department of Commerce

Deputy Secretary Adam Miller, Department of Education

MEMBERS OF CONGRESS

Congressman Andre Carson (Indiana 7th) (a muslim)

Congressman John Conyers (Michigan 14th)

Congressman Keith Ellison (Minnesota 5th) (a muslim)

Congressman Rush Holt (New Jersey 12th)

Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN) (a rino)

DIPLOMATIC CORPS

Ambassador Prince Zeid Ra’ad Zeid Al Hussein, Jordan

Ambassador Adel A.M. Al-Jubeir, Saudi Arabia

Ambassador Husain Haqqani, Pakistan

Ambassador Erlan A. Idrissov, Kazakhstan

Ambassador His Excellency Said Tayeb Jawad, Afghanistan ('is excellency?' What are we creating in Afghanistan?)

Ambassador Aziz Mekouar, Morocco

Ambassador Peter N.R.O. Ogego, Kenya (another of Barry's close pals)

Ambassador Roble Olhaye, D’jibouti

Ambassador Michael Oren, Israel

Ambassador Sudjadnan Parnohadiningrat, Indonesia

Ambassador Klaus Scharioth, Germany

Ambassador Meera Shankar, India

Ambassador Nabi Sensoy, Turkey

Ambassador Sir Nigel Elton Sheinwald, United Kingdom

Ambassador Sameh Hassan Shoukry, Egypt

Ambassador Samir Shakir Mahmood Sumaida’ie, Iraq

Ambassador Pierre Nicolas Vimont, France

Chargé d’Affaires Sheikh Mohammed Belal, Bangladesh

Chargé d’Affaires Ilango Karuppanan, Malaysia

Chargé d’Affaires Mohamed O Maiga,

Chargé d’Affaires Angela Oi Foong Shim, Brunei

Chargé d’Affaires Baba Gana Wakil, Nigeria

Mr. Maen Areikat, Chief of Mission, PLO (remember when they assassinated in a most brutal way two of our diplomats in the Saudi Arabian embassy in Sudan under the direct order of Yasser Arafat, the head of the PLO?)

COMMUNITY MEMBERS

Ms. Bilquis Abdul-Qaadir, University of Memphis

Professor Azizah Al-Hibri, University of Richmond School of Law

Ms. Reema Ali, Karamah: Muslim Women Lawyers for Human Rights (I suppose she is opposed to islamic sharia law which discriminates against women?? A woman who accuses a rapist must produce seven witnesses to corroberate her story, geez, any seven witnesses would probably be co-rapists. Guess not.)

Mr. Hasan Chandoo, Oppenheimer & Co.

Rabbi Nathan Diament, Director, Institute for Public Affairs, Orthodox Union* (last year Obama met with Jewish leaders in Harrisbug, PA. to get support in his presidential campaign but that was in a basement away from public view, what does the Bible say about being wary of those who claim to be Jewish but are not?)

Imam Plemon El-Amin, Atlanta Masjid al-Islam

Mr. Wahid Hamid, PepsiCo

Ms. Dina Hammad

Mr. Lutfi Hassan

Ms. Nashala Hearn

Ms. Rosalind Hearn

Imam Yahya Hendi, Chaplain, Georgetown University

Pastor Joel Hunter, Northland Church*

Mr. Nooman Husain

Mr. Imad Hussain

Mr. Sanford Ibrahim, CEO, Radian Group

Mr. Jameel Jaffer, Staff Attorney, ACLU (at least they are consistant, they would be crying wolf if any Christian get together were held in the WH and are adhering to their basic principle; "peace will come when there is no resistance to socialism.")

Mrs. Elsheba Khan

Dr. Mansur Khan, UMMA Community Clinic

Ms. Farhana Khera, Muslim Advocates

Lt. Commander Abuhena Saifulislam, U.S. Marine Corps

Mr. Kareem Salama

Imam Yusuf Saleem, Masjid Muhammad

Dr. Ingrid Mattson, President, Islamic Society of North America (need I remind you of the radical literature of ISNA?)

Mr. Farooq Mitha

Ms. Dalia Mogahed, Director, Gallup Center for Muslim Studies*

Ms. Hutham Olayan, Olayan America Corp.

Mr. Eboo Patel, Interfaith Youth Corps*

Imam Yusuf Saleem, Masjid Muhammad

Rabbi David Saperstein, Religious Action Center for Reform Judaism*

Ms. Mina Trudeau, Executive Director, El Fatiha Foundation

Mr. J. Saleh Williams, Congressional Muslim Staffers Association

Mr. Mohamed Zakariya, Zakariya Calligraphy

How's this for calligraphy?

 

[gsvol]

Easter and Christmas actually have nothing to do with Christianity whatsoever. They were pagan festivals "borrowed" by the Catholic church to try and get said pagans to join the church (that's the short paraphrased version). Kind of like these companies that take a video game and make a "Christian" version of the game.

I don't see why people who refer to themselves as Christians give two craps about the holidays because again, they have nothing to do with being a Christian, at all.

You are dead wrong about Easter, that is on a specific day and celebrates the resurection of Jesus.

Christmas also is a day to celebrate the birth of Jesus, although the specific date was taken from a pagan cult most hated by early Christians because that particular cult was want to offer up human sacrifice on December 25 and they liked to kidnap young Christian women to sacrifice.

I don't see why any discussion along these lines morphs into a criticism of Christianity unless many are so brainwashed by socialist propaganda that supposes Christianity to be the greatest enemy and stumbling block in the way of complete world socialism.

Osama bin Laden said; "socialists are infidels also, we will deal with them later."

 

[TennTradition]

You are dead wrong about Easter, that is on a specific day and celebrates the resurection of Jesus.

GS - I agree with you on the second half of your statement, but on the first, that's not true. It isn't a specific day. It varies based on the lunar cycle and how that relates to the spring equinox, IIRC.

 

[T-TownVol]

I think that while you are historically accurate, you are not correct when you say that these holidays have nothing to do with being a Christian. These holidays mark the two most important events of Christianity, whether or not the timing is correctly associated with said event. The act of celebration of these events is an important component of Christianity, it seems to me.

ding, ding, ding.....we have a winner!

 

[gsvol]

Like always, you're reaching.

Like always you are up on every blip.

Its amazing that we can celebrate Ramadan in the White House, but don't dare celebrate Christmas or Easter! Where in the world are the aclu, the rev. Barry and others demanding "seperation of church and state". I have my own theory as to why no one worries about Islam, but are worried about Judeo/Christian teaching, but thats another forum.

Because socialism and islam dovetail nicely in their hatred of Christianity??

Wonder why the devoutly Christian Obama's havn't found a new church home in Washington in six months, not counting the two years there as a senator??

Can't find another 'pastor' with a degree in islamic studies??

Small secrets are the only ones needed to be kept, the big ones can be in plain sight with no worry because of an incredulous public.

I'm against any religion in the white house. Islam included.

Secular humanism included too??

What about the Darwin voodoo doll you worship at home?

Voodoo in the White House.

From a story published on 'Townhall' Aug, 15, then pulled.

The first mother in law, or the first grandma if you prefer, "Marian invited an old friend from Chicago to visit her at the White House, and she performed a Santeria ceremony in the residence.

It was probably a hoax but who knows? I didn't click on the story then.

Of course our present Secretary of State use to have conversations with Eleanor Rossevelt, saying Eleanor was her spiritual advisor, so I guess this is nothing new for Democrats in the White House.

Barry's good luck charms.

Obama is known to carry an image of Hanuman also known as Bajrang Bali (the monkey god) Hindu. One of the largest pagan Religions of the World.

What does a tree or eggs have to do with Christianity? Those are secular images of the Christian Holiday.

I don't really care but just pointing out those things have nothing to do with the religion.

What is secular about Ramadan? Do they have any fictitious creatures, any trees or something that separates it from the religion making it secular?

More food for thought.

Quote from Barack Obama’s book, Dreams from My Father:
“THE PERSON WHO MADE ME PROUDEST OF ALL, THOUGH, WAS MY [half brother], ROY..HE CONVERTED TO ISLAM”.

From ‘Dreams from my Father’, “IN INDONESIA, I SPEND TWO YEARS AT A MUSLIM SCHOOL” “..I STUDIED THE KORAN..”

From ‘Audacity of Hope: “LOLO (Obama’s step father) FOLLOWED ISLAM....”I LOOKED TO LOLO FOR GUIDANCE”.

From ‘The Audacity Of Hope, “I WILL STAND WITH THEM (MUSLIMS) SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS OF WAR SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION..”

From The Audacity Of Hope, “WE ARE NO LONGER JUST A CHRISTIAN NATION, we are also a Jewish nation, a MUSLIM NATION, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.”
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On February 27th, speaking to Kristof of The New York Times, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.”
The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:

“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet? “

According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim.

This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam. Obama chanted it with pride and finesse.

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Go to The Obama File The Obama File by Beckwith

Read ‘Religion’ and ‘Islam’ sections
The documented evidence is overwhelming.

The library of Congress has chosen The Obama File for inclusion in its national archieves

(Of course rj would call it some sort of fringe site)
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“AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

“ISLAM ISN’T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don’t need to look somewhere else.” OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group

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