President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[OrangeTsar]

You can't collect to an unknown target. It's what we're currently doing and it's a failure. Revenue is higher than it's ever been and the previous admin was running deficits at $2T. We simply don't have a revenue problem if there was limited govt

True. I heard a statistic (haven’t verified its accuracy) that with current revenue, if we merely returned to 2019 spending levels, we would actually have a balanced budget.
Financial solvency MUST begin on the spending side. It is out of control

 

[utvolpj]

Might need to look into people before issuing blanket pardons

Houston man pardoned by Trump arrested on child sex charge

Andrew Taake received a six-year sentence for assaulting officers on Jan. 6. He was arrested Thursday on an outstanding charge of soliciting a minor.

www.texastribune.org

 

[utvolpj]

We need to run annual budget surpluses for years,

Ok tell me how that's possible without a target number that you can't go over. I'm all ears on your plan to fix spending

 

[lawgator1]

It would be popular with a select few but most wouldn't GAF. They know any plan longer than 4 years is BS.

Nope, 20 years is 2-3 different administrations who would scrap the plan in order to make promises of free chit.

I disagree. I think that the vast majority of people know that we need to deal with it and that we need to start a realistic discussion of how to do it.

 

[lawgator1]

Ok tell me how that's possible without a target number that you can't go over. I'm all ears on your plan to fix spending

I confess I haven't done the math. I would think it will be very complicated and there will be hiccups along the way, economic downturns leading to less collection, emergency spending, and sometimes the opposite, higher collections, lower spending.

It will be a constant give and take. But that is no reason not to start the process.

 

[hog88]

I disagree. I think that the vast majority of people know that we need to deal with it and that we need to start a realistic discussion of how to do it.

LOL Come on, look at the presidential elections since 2000 and you really want to believe people are smart enough to see further down the road than 4 years?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Might need to look into people before issuing blanket pardons

Houston man pardoned by Trump arrested on child sex charge

Andrew Taake received a six-year sentence for assaulting officers on Jan. 6. He was arrested Thursday on an outstanding charge of soliciting a minor.

www.texastribune.org

Yeah at least Puddinhead was right up front with pardoning his criminal cabal.

cough cough Fauci and The Smartest Man Puddinhead ever met

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

The Communist Democrats strike again. They're trying to barge into the DOE building.
They have been stopped at the front door & not allowed to enter the building.
They are hollering & screaming bloody murder as usual outside the door right now.
Crazy Maxine Waters is verbally attacking the guy standing at the door pointing at him.

 

[LSU-SIU]

LOL Come on, look at the presidential elections since 2000 and you really want to believe people are smart enough to see further down the road than 4 years?

LG voted for someone that probably can't find the bathroom, he came out here lied about it multiples times.... and he is waiting on a candidate that has a 30 year plan. I would think he has settled for a candidates that can find the bathroom in 30 seconds.

He is void of any type of reality.

 

[lawgator1]

LOL Come on, look at the presidential elections since 2000 and you really want to believe people are smart enough to see further down the road than 4 years?

I do, its just that the candidates all focus on short term because that is what they think works. I disagree with them and think that there is a real hunger for a long term solution.

 

[VOLS INC.]

No presidential candidate is going to come forward with a 30 year plan, this country is run on 4 year election cycles and no candidate is looking further ahead than that.

The first step in reducing the debt is to forbid the government from creating money (basically end the federal reserve) outside of a congressional declaration of war or national emergency. Do that and I'll listen to your ideas about taxes.

Spot on Hog. Just the reality of our society. Politicians understand it.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

We need to run annual budget surpluses for years, likely many years, to reduce the debt. Would love a candidate to come forward with a 30 year plan -- the same as the usual mortgage pay off. That would make sense and spread the method over a reasonable period that would not result in a massive economic hit to the economy in any given year.

I like your thought but I would prefer to shorten the period. We are $40T in debt so no matter how you slice it there will be a “massive economic hit.” The question then become, can the Dems handle it?

Conservatives have been ready to go for years.

 

[utvolpj]

It will be a constant give and take. But that is no reason not to start the process.

The process seems to be well underway in case you didn't notice. Appears there's plenty of spending that can be cut before revenue needs to be discussed

 

[hog88]

I do, its just that the candidates all focus on short term because that is what they think works. I disagree with them and think that there is a real hunger for a long term solution.

Very few voters will vote for short term inconvenience and pain for a lofty 20-30 year payoff.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Some of us remember a couple of years ago when Republican congressional members were denied access to the DC jail to investigate the treatment of prisoners being denied access to the their attorneys and veined denied a speedy trial. I must have missed the liberal outrage then

 

[jmacvols1]

Trump should go ahead and fire everyone at BLS for consistently putting out fake numbers in trying to make Biden look good...

 

[OrangeTsar]

I do, it’s just that the candidates all focus on short term because that is what they think works. I disagree with them and think that there is a real hunger for a long term solution.

Trump is the first President in ages to focus on long term solutions. Shrinking government and defanging runaway bureaucracy would be the greatest benefit this country has seen in a century.
We VOTED for this and we are delighted to see a President actual stuck to his promises. I think that is called “democracy”, that word the left lives to throw around.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

True. I heard a statistic (haven’t verified its accuracy) that with current revenue, if we merely returned to 2019 spending levels, we would actually have a balanced budget.
Financial solvency MUST begin on the spending side. It is out of control

We'd have a surplus.

To be fair, we'd be right at breakeven if you adjusted 2019 baseline up to factor in wage inflation/higher interest rates.

And remember, 2019 was Trump taking the bloated budget he received from Obama and increasing spending at 5x the inflation rate...

 

[lawgator1]

Trump is the first President in ages to focus on long term solutions. Shrinking government and defanging runaway bureaucracy would be the greatest benefit this country has seen in a century.
We VOTED for this and we are delighted to see a President actual stuck to his promises. I think that is called “democracy”, that word the left lives to throw around.

I applaud the goal, everyone would. But how it is done matters and the cure can sometimes be worse than the condition.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I do, its just that the candidates all focus on short term because that is what they think works. I disagree with them and think that there is a real hunger for a long term solution.

Gotta cut the fat to get to the beef.

 

[malinoisvol]

UNHINGED!

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Trump should go ahead and fire everyone at BLS for consistently putting out fake numbers in trying to make Biden look good...

But, EL would post tweets showing Biden's figures were accurate and true.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

UNHINGED!

Its a lot worse than that. Its showing democrats insanity to act in such a foolish manner.
They need to go back to their office & figure out ways how to work w/Trump on this.
This insanity they're showing by clinched fists & hollering bloody murder ain't working.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Work hard, play hard.

I have no idea how that Orange man does it.

 

[malinoisvol]

Its a lot worse than that. Its showing democrats insanity to act in such a foolish manner.
They need to go back to their office & figure out ways how to work w/Trump on this.

This is what I just told my wife. I don't think they have the guts tho.

It would have been funny to hear that guard tell them "No, your job is across the street."