President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[Orange_Crush]

That was never my point of contention.

My focus is on the individual. I view them both as equally normal and equally free to choose what is best for them.

The fact that so many have historically failed to view them as equal is the root cause of the current environment.

The point isn't whether you view them as normal. It's whether they are scientifically/demonstrably normal.

A person born without fingers is a genetically demonstrably abnormal human. A person with gender dysphoria is almost always a demonstrably genetic gender with a mental illness. You treat physical deformaties and mental illnesses differently.

You are welcome to your "I view" statement. Culture has tried to normalize trans-genderism to change others' "I view" statement. It just goes to show that when you have to "normalize" something in the culture, it's because it's abnormal.

* Now is generally when you retreat to relativity and claim that morality is by cultural acceptance, and we show again that you are immoral by your own definitions.

 

[LSU-SIU]

MAGA doesn't care. They are just happy that the words "diversity" and "inclusion" can no longer be found on the websites of government agencies. Meaningless culture war issues are more important to them - pathetic and stupid, but accurate.

They seem to be doing a great job to me, and I don't vote. Only 6 weeks in, long way to go though, only 202 weeks to go or so. You might want to pace yourself.

 

[luthervol]

The point isn't whether you view them as normal. It's whether they are scientifically/demonstrably normal.

A person born without fingers is a genetically demonstrably abnormal human. A person with gender dysphoria is almost always a demonstrably genetic gender with a mental illness. You treat physical deformaties and mental illnesses differently.

You are welcome to your "I view" statement. Culture has tried to normalize trans-genderism to change others' "I view" statement. It just goes to show that when you have to "normalize" something in the culture, it's because it's abnormal.

* Now is generally when you retreat to relativity and claim that morality is by cultural acceptance, and we show again that you are immoral by your own definitions.

lol......
An abnormal human? I don't really need to go any further than that.
I'll go with "a normal human with a slight genetic abnormality."
The most abnormal human of all would be the human without even one slight abnormality....if such a human even exists.

 

[Orange_Crush]

lol......
An abnormal human? I don't really need to go any further than that.
I'll go with "a normal human with a slight genetic abnormality."
The most abnormal human of all would be the human without even one slight abnormality....if such a human even exists.

You really shouldn't have tried.

 

[NCFisher]

That was never my point of contention.

My focus is on the individual. I view them both as equally normal and equally free to choose what is best for them.

The fact that so many have historically failed to view them as equal is the root cause of the current environment.

Okay, but that was the point of contention with Bearded's post.

Being free to chose and being normal aren't the same. One can't psychologically impose their physical abnormality upon others, but the mentally aberrant and morally/ethically deviant certainly can compromise children. And have done so primarily through academia, down to and including K-12.

Those with congenital or acquired physical abnormality should be afforded every decency, while the activist critical theorists should be afforded none, but rather confronted for their malevolence. Regardless of historical bias against them. There are some barriers you simply can't be permitted to cross with any justification, imagined or real.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Your tongue in cheek reply is spot on.

It's nonsensical to expect someone paying 30,000 a year to experience a larger decrease in taxes than someone paying 30,000,000 per year even though the person paying 30k may experience a larger reduction in their percentage paid.

~50% increase in tax revenue collected from F16 to F22 (3.3T to 4.9T)......

 

[NCFisher]

MAGA b!tches!

So, running Door Dash routes since quitting your job to become a day trader?

 

[NCFisher]

lol......
An abnormal human? I don't really need to go any further than that.
I'll go with "a normal human with a slight genetic abnormality."
The most abnormal human of all would be the human without even one slight abnormality....if such a human even exists.

For crying out loud, stop trying to seize upon and amplify something that isn't there.

Not having usable hands is a pretty glaring abnormality. Ask that person to join you in a game of tennis and they'll think you're either obtuse or mocking, while you think "I'm just treating them normally". They know what they are or are not.

Maybe understand the argument before chiming in.

 

[RavinDave]

We're gonna milk this one as long as we can

Yeah I’ve kinda soured on this one.

 

[NCFisher]

MAGA doesn't care. They are just happy that the words "diversity" and "inclusion" can no longer be found on the websites of government agencies. Meaningless culture war issues are more important to them - pathetic and stupid, but accurate.

We're holding out for EL's and your 'Day Trading Bootcamp' course.

With the companion guide "How To Become A Wall Street Enthusiast Democrat In One Election Cycle"

 

[Orange_Crush]

For crying out loud, stop trying to seize upon and amplify something that isn't there.

Not having usable hands is a pretty glaring abnormality. Ask that person to join you in a game of tennis and they'll think you're either obtuse or mocking, while you think "I'm just treating them normally". They know what they are or are not.

Maybe understand the argument before chiming in.

You understood correctly.

 

[theFallGuy]

Looks like another MAGA day for the stock market. NASDAQ currently down nearly 3%. But hey, you goobers voted for a guy who somehow bankrupted a casino.

It only took you about 4 months of safe space to return post election? And the stock market being down provided the perfect entry point? LOL

 

[BreatheUT]

Only the best of people.

I guess the War in Ukraine thread was hemorrhaging the type level of continued propaganda to make you feel good so you came out of the closet to expose yourself.

That tweet reminds me Dracula worried that the sun is coming up over the horizon and he in jeopardy of not making it back to his coffin to enclose himself because a padlock is on it. It reeks of desperation.

 

[luthervol]

For crying out loud, stop trying to seize upon and amplify something that isn't there.

Not having usable hands is a pretty glaring abnormality. Ask that person to join you in a game of tennis and they'll think you're either obtuse or mocking, while you think "I'm just treating them normally". They know what they are or are not.

Maybe understand the argument before chiming in.

Please.
Have you ever seen the Challenge? Jordan - look him up.
Would you ask someone who is 50 lbs overweight to play tennis? 150 lbs? 350 lbs? They know what they are or are not.
Would you ask someone in a wheelchair to play tennis? Well they do..........
Would you ask someone with one arm to play basketball? They're on college teams.

You guys with your concrete and archaic notions of "normal" and "abnormal" ......................

You're like the 2.0 version of "left handed people are demonic".

 

[Orange_Crush]

Would you ask someone who is 50 lbs overweight to play tennis? 150 lbs? 350 lbs? They know what they are or are not.

Would you ask an anorexic to starve themselves, or get therapy? They know what they are and are not?

 

[luthervol]

Would you ask an anorexic to starve themselves, or get therapy? They know what they are and are not?

Probably neither, but of the two choices......get therapy - if I knew them well and thought they might value my opinion.

 

[LouderVol]

Any time I see the word "arrested" replaced with "abducted", my eyes roll and the poster loses credibility.

no warrant was provided upon request, no reason given. pretty sure both are required in arrests, abducted seems to apply a little better here.

 

[LouderVol]

lol......
An abnormal human? I don't really need to go any further than that.
I'll go with "a normal human with a slight genetic abnormality."
The most abnormal human of all would be the human without even one slight abnormality....if such a human even exists.

you aren't making much of a point if the word you are disparaging shows up in your own "PC" version.

 

[NCFisher]

Please.
Have you ever seen the Challenge? Jordan - look him up.
Would you ask someone who is 50 lbs overweight to play tennis? 150 lbs? 350 lbs? They know what they are or are not.
Would you ask someone in a wheelchair to play tennis? Well they do..........
Would you ask someone with one arm to play basketball? They're on college teams.

You guys with your concrete and archaic notions of "normal" and "abnormal" ......................

You're like the 2.0 version of "left handed people are demonic".

Then science should not concern itself with its concrete and archaic notions of either helping physically abnormal people live as normally as possible, nor preventing such malady so it afflicts fewer or no persons. That's the objective terminus of your logic; because they're already normal.

You're like the 'settled science' edition of Every Aberrant Exception is the Rule.
Thanks for a nonsensical contribution.

 

[jwells]

The comment you made that led to this was total dog….. so I guess you started it

Interesting that you didn't have a single retort to anything I claimed....other than "it's dog sh**".
Great analysis.

 

[jwells]

Now do Maxine Waters' greatest hits.

How does this make any sense?

Hate speech is protected speech. It doesn't matter who says it.

 

[jwells]

Headed towards full porcelain doll, huh?
Gender-affirming care must be covered for cabinet members.

 

[whodeycin85]

no warrant was provided upon request, no reason given. pretty sure both are required in arrests, abducted seems to apply a little better here.

I didn't hear of an arrest warrant...but I haven't heard there wasn't a deportation warrant after this visa and green card were revoked..

 

[LSU-SIU]

Probably neither, but of the two choices......get therapy - if I knew them well and thought they might value my opinion.

That's like Oprah telling people to lose weight.

 

[BreatheUT]

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows this isn’t the case. Lateefa is just spewing BS racist propaganda.

They've lost the debate.