President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

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WoodsmanVol said:
There is. I didn't say there wasn't. I said you CA N pour your soul into raising them right. And still, what they ultimately decide to be and become, is their choice alone. Might seem hard to comprehend, but it's the truth.
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Are you of the opinion that Biden's and/or Trump's kids forged their own path despite their father's best efforts?
 
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McDad said:
Are you of the opinion that Biden's and/or Trump's kids forged their own path despite their father's best efforts?
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Frankly, I have no idea how Joe and Jill raised their kids. My point is dual 1. none of you have any idea either, you didn't live in their homes and watched and recorded the family. 2. The ultimate decision your child makes when they walk out the door, doesn't necessarily reflect their child-rearing skills.

My turn. Are you of the opinion that Biden's and/or Trump's kids forged their own path, despite their father's best efforts?
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Frankly, I have no idea how Joe and Jill raised their kids. My point is dual 1. none of you have any idea either, you didn't live in their homes and watched and recorded the family. 2. The ultimate decision your child makes when they walk out the door, doesn't necessarily reflect their child-rearing skills.

My turn. Are you of the opinion that Biden's and/or Trump's kids forged their own path, despite their father's best efforts?
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Are we adopting a "if I have no first hand knowledge, then I will not opine" position, now? Seems silly considering all we discuss on the board.
I wouldn't know if any of them are decent, either. It appears Trump's kids are accomplished to a degree and Biden's kids have emotional and/or substance abuse issues. Trump's kids had an advantage being his kids. Biden's kids did, too.
 
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McDad said:
Are we adopting a "if I have no first hand knowledge, then I will not opine" position, now? Seems silly considering all we discuss on the board.
I wouldn't know if any of them are decent, either. It appears Trump's kids are accomplished to a degree and Biden's kids have emotional and/or substance abuse issues. Trump's kids had an advantage being his kids. Biden's kids did, too.
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Trump's kids are lying, tax evading, a-holes. Besides Barron, so far, the only one I have an iota of respect for is Ivana, mostly out of pity as her dad indicated he'd date her. Plus, he was handie on her. I sympathize with those who did or may have endured sexual abuse. Tiffany, I don't know or have seen much of her to have an, uh, what'd you call it? Oh yeah, an opine. Biden's kids, except for Hunter, I never even knew he had any until Hunter came into the public eye. So I don't know about his other kids, either. And you're doing an end run around my post's point. You want to accuse Biden of being a bad father, without knowing so for sure. I'm saying we don't know if either Trump or Biden's kids defied good upbringing or not. There's a name for what you're doing. Here it is.
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McDad said:
Are you of the opinion that Biden's and/or Trump's kids forged their own path despite their father's best efforts?
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I think the original question and debate at it's core was:
Which father made the best child rearing efforts?

It's an incredibly dumb question.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Trump's kids are lying, tax evading, a-holes. Besides Barron, so far, the only one I have an iota of respect for is Ivana, mostly out of pity as her dad indicated he'd date her. Plus, he was handie on her. I sympathize with those who did or may have endured sexual abuse. Tiffany, I don't know or have seen much of her to have an, uh, what'd you call it? Oh yeah, an opine. Biden's kids, except for Hunter, I never even knew he had any until Hunter came into the public eye. So I don't know about his other kids, either. And you're doing an end run around my post's point. You want to accuse Biden of being a bad father, without knowing so for sure. I'm saying we don't know if either Trump or Biden's kids defied good upbringing or not. There's a name for what you're doing. Here it is.
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You would do well to read my posts rather than infer my posts.
I asked if Luther had a thought about the two men and their kids. That's it. I asked because Luther talked about kids and their parenting environment.
I only offered a thought after you asked. Detour??? Are we only allowed to discuss the subjects you want? Or discuss them in the way you want? How can we detour if the main road isn't established?
You have first hand experience of Trump's kids lying, tax evading, and being a-holes?...remember the standard you set earlier?

Where is your head, right now? You're not even making cogent points.
 
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luthervol said:
I think the original question and debate at it's core was:
Which father made the best child rearing efforts?

It's an incredibly dumb question.
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You, too, might be better off simply comprehending a post rather than looking for subtext.
I cannot help what you inferred. I didn't imply anything about the two or their children.
 
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McDad said:
You would do well to read my posts rather than infer my posts.
I asked if Luther had a thought about the two men and their kids. That's it. I asked because Luther talked about kids and their parenting environment.
I only offered a thought after you asked. Detour??? Are we only allowed to discuss the subjects you want? Or discuss them in the way you want? How can we detour if the main road isn't established?
You have first hand experience of Trump's kids lying, tax evading, and being a-holes?...remember the standard you set earlier?

Where is your head, right now? You're not even making cogent points.
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I see what you're doing here. Nice strategy for those who don't pay attention to your thread posts.
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rekinhavoc said:

The U.S. awarded contracts for the purchase of 3.3 million barrels of oil to help replenish the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) after a massive sale from the stockpile in 2022, the Department of Energy said Friday.

The oil is being bought at an average price of $79.38 a barrel, the department said. The Biden administration sold 180 million barrels from the SPR oil in 2022 to control gasoline prices before the midterm elections.

The Energy Department also said it is seeking to buy another 3 million barrels for delivery in November. The agency has so far bought back only 35.6 million barrels of the 180 million it sold in 2022.



I thought it was to be replenished at $62 to $72 a barrel ? Only 35.6 million replenished?

Sounds like we sent a toddler to the store and we ain't getting any change back.
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What a dipsh!t.
 
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McDad said:
If you can't answer or don't want to, there's no shame in admitting it.
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Now, you're badgering, having failed in your detouring and circular postings. You must be a Wisconsin football fan. Here badger, badger, badger, here.

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WoodsmanVol said:
Now, you're badgering, having failed in your detouring and circular postings. You must be a Wisconsin football fan. Here badger, badger, badger, here.

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Seems to me you applied a standard when it suited you and omitted when it didn't.

If you don't see a difference in the kids or how they turned out or if that is correlated to either parent, that's fine with me.
 
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McDad said:
Seems to me you applied a standard when it suited you and omitted when it didn't.

If you don't see a difference in the kids or how they turned out or if that is correlated to either parent, that's fine with me.
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There you go ignoring the answer to your claims and engaging in your with your circular arguments again. You know, even a circle has a dead end, on account even the circulator eventually realizes he's going nowhere.
 
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McDad said:
You're right again!
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So you admit you're a druggie?
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Absolutely. Your ability to judge correctly is impressive.
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Thank you, sweetie, I knew Aldous Huxley had you pegged as an addict. And the Trumps are still sleaze. Not to say ole Hunter isn't, but the cloth as i already said more than once in previous posts, cuts both ways. I now leave you to twist this post into yet another pretzel myth. T'were fun, though.

I'm done bothering you for today
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WoodsmanVol said:
So you admit you're a druggie?

Thank you, sweetie, I knew Aldous Huxley had you pegged as an addict. And the Trumps are still sleaze. Not to say ole Hunter isn't, but the cloth as i already said more than once in previous posts, cuts both ways. I now leave you to twist this post into yet another pretzel myth. T'were fun, though.

I'm done bothering you for today
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Thank you. I've been going through DTs lately and your posts are simply too much for me. Hit me up in a day after I score some smack.
 
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