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CagleMtnVol said:
This SOB got away with going on CNN & MSDNC for years claiming he had evidence that Trump was a Russian agent.
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It is absolutely insane that even Rs and libertarians (including on this board) will blast Trump for his "rhetoric" then say literally nothing about actual seated politicians making heinous stuff up to slander normal people and opposing politicians.
 
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85SugarVol said:
You believe Biden is giving nukes to Ukraine because [checks tweet] Alex Jones says so?
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That's not what the headline says. (I didn't watch it but the headline doesn't say they are given nukes)

The issue becomes what I spoke about in the Ukraine War thread a long time ago, which Russia said a long time ago. The U.S. say in theory, gets early detection of launches from the middle east inbound to the United States or Europe, it has no way of knowing if they are nuclear in nature. In the case of Russia they will only have a few minutes to make the determination to respond with nuclear strike of their own in advance.

In theory, its possible for the Capital and White House to be taken out by missiles from the middle east, in which a response is of no real deterrence. There is no real way of determining these packages i.e. does the U.S. launch a nuclear strike?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
That's not what the headline says. (I didn't watch it but the headline doesn't say they are given nukes)

The issue becomes what I spoke about in the Ukraine War thread a long time ago, which Russia said a long time ago. The U.S. say in theory, gets early detection of launches from the middle east inbound to the United States or Europe, it has no way of knowing if they are nuclear capable.
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Announces plan to deliver nuclear capable missiles to Ukraine.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Announces plan to deliver nuclear capable missiles to Ukraine.
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That's not sending a nuke, it's sending a nuclear capable missile. They way you said it made it sound like they were sending actual nuclear arms.

The problem is... it becomes increasing difficult for Russia to know what is going on with only a few minutes to make a determination. The other side, Russia has said they will give U.S. enemies weapons in kind.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
That's not sending a nuke, it's sending a nuclear capable missile. They way you said it made it sound like they were sending actual nuclear arms.

The problem is... it becomes increasing difficult for Russia to know what is going on with only a few minutes to make a determination. The other side, Russia has said they will give U.S. enemies weapons in kind.
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Ukraine has had, and used, nuclear capable missiles long before this.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
That's not sending a nuke, it's sending a nuclear capable missile. They way you said it made it sound like they were sending actual nuclear arms.

The problem is... it becomes increasing difficult for Russia to know what is going on with only a few minutes to make a determination. The other side, Russia has said they will give U.S. enemies weapons in kind.
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It’s the exact sane idiotic terminology you’ve used in the Ukraine thread while you propped up Putin. Russia giving “nuclear capable” weapons to Iran, etc… that could reach the US. We laughed at you there and were laughing at your flip flop here 🤡
 
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LSU-SIU said:
That's not sending a nuke, it's sending a nuclear capable missile. They way you said it made it sound like they were sending actual nuclear arms.

The problem is... it becomes increasing difficult for Russia to know what is going on with only a few minutes to make a determination. The other side, Russia has said they will give U.S. enemies weapons in kind.
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Ukraine has no nuclear warheads so that should make the analysis a little easier.
 
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EasternVol said:
Ukraine has no nuclear warheads so that should make the analysis a little easier.
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Not really. Russia has no way of knowing what has been sent or what is on the payload. So, no it doesn't make anything easier. If there is say a dozen inbound missiles, with multiple warheads coming to the U.S. from the middle east do you assume they have no nuclear payload.... and does it matter? It throws the whole nuclear detection system for both countries out the window, more or less.

Russia only has a few minutes to make the determination if they are going to respond with nuclear, the U.S. has probably a good 30 minutes or more. The problem is.... someone makes a certain decision... the whole world goes whether its correct answer is not material.

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LSU-SIU said:
Not really. Russia has no way of knowing what has been sent or what is on the payload. So, no it doesn't make anything easier. If there is say a dozen inbound missiles, with multiple warheads coming to the U.S. from the middle east do you assume they have no nuclear payload.... and does it matter? It throws the whole nuclear detection system for both countries out the window, more or less.

Russia only has a few minutes to make the determination if they are going to respond with nuclear, the U.S. has probably a good 30 minutes or more. The problem is.... someone makes a certain decision... the whole world goes whether its correct answer is not material.

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by the same token Ukraine and NATO have no clue what Russia is sending at Ukraine, could be nukes, but that never bothered the Russians before. Funny how your standards are ALWAYS one sided.
 
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