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luthervol said:
Sure it was honest, but slanted.
If 10,000 people protest and 9,500 are peaceful - that is mostly peaceful, is it not.
It's not like they weren't filming in front of a burning building.
If they were dishonest, they would green screened out the burning building and replaced it with people holding hands and singing "We Shall Overcome."
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On any given day between 1939 and 1945, battles were only happening in very narrowly defined areas along the front and 99.99% of Europe heard no gunshots. So by your logic, I guess we can say that WWII was „mostly peaceful“ as well? 🤔
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Lies Lies Lies & more Lies that always come out of democrats mouth each & everyday.

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It’s not just „new math“, it’s much worse than that. Marxist leftism can only pretend to be possible by depriving words of their actual meanings and replacing them with alternative (if not totally opposite) meanings. So 3.5 trillion becomes 0. 1984 predicted the Redefinition of words long ago because Orwell saw clearly what happened in Stalinist Russia
 
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OrangeTsar said:
On any given day between 1939 and 1945, battles were only happening in very narrowly defined areas along the front and 99.99% of Europe heard no gunshots. So by your logic, I guess we can say that WWII was „mostly peaceful“ as well? 🤔
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I saw two fights at the last UT game I attended, but the crowd was mostly peaceful.
Had I seen 5 fights, I would still claim the crowd was mostly peaceful.
Had I seen 20 fights, I would have said that there were a larger number of idiots in attendance than usual.....but the crowd was mostly peaceful.
 
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luthervol said:
I saw two fights at the last UT game I attended, but the crowd was mostly peaceful.
Had I seen 5 fights, I would still claim the crowd was mostly peaceful.
Had I seen 20 fights, I would have said that there were a larger number of idiots in attendance than usual.....but the crowd was mostly peaceful.
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So you just totally ignored the question and didn’t even attempt to provide an answer. Typical
 
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OrangeTsar said:
So you just totally ignored the question and didn’t even attempt to provide an answer. Typical
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Sorry. The question was so absurd I assumed it was rhetorical.
World War II was never intended to be peaceful, seeing as how it was a war and all. So no, I don't think anyone would describe it as mostly peaceful. They may have said most areas were peaceful today, or that most people in the area were peaceful.
Protests are intended to be peaceful, more like the fans at a football game. That's why I thought my analogy was so much better than yours. When a protest turns violent or destructive, it ceases to be a protest and becomes a riot. 99% of the protestors over that period were peaceful protestors. 99% of the protests remained peaceful.
There were occasionally idiots who would use the cover of protests to riot.
 
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luthervol said:
Sorry. The question was so absurd I assumed it was rhetorical.
World War II was never intended to be peaceful, seeing as how it was a war and all. So no, I don't think anyone would describe it as mostly peaceful. They may have said most areas were peaceful today, or that most people in the area were peaceful.
Protests are intended to be peaceful, more like the fans at a football game. That's why I thought my analogy was so much better than yours. When a protest turns violent or destructive, it ceases to be a protest and becomes a riot. 99% of the protestors over that period were peaceful protestors. 99% of the protests remained peaceful.
There were occasionally idiots who would use the cover of protests to riot.
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Just pointing out the holes in your logic. And what does „intent“ have to do with anything? Is someone injured or killed in a protest somehow „less dead“ or „less injured“ than someone suffering those fates in a war. „Sorry we burned your Business down, we didn’t <intend> to.“
But the biggest flaw is the contention that somehow a majority of people in a protest have to become violent for it to no longer be „mostly peaceful“. I would posit that even in a flat out riot that a sizable proportion if not an outright majority of the participants do not actively engage in violence personally, but they sure as heck don’t do much to restrain or dissuade those who do.
So sorry if you view my analogy as absurd. I just don’t think violence has a de minimus threshold for it becoming a problem. If I am the one whose store gets looted or burned during a „protest“ it is very meager comfort to me that „hey, MOST of the people here didn’t destroy my livelihood“
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Just pointing out the holes in your logic. And what does „intent“ have to do with anything? Is someone injured or killed in a protest somehow „less dead“ or „less injured“ than someone suffering those fates in a war. „Sorry we burned your Business down, we didn’t <intend> to.“
But the biggest flaw is the contention that somehow a majority of people in a protest have to become violent for it to no longer be „mostly peaceful“. I would posit that even in a flat out riot that a sizable proportion if not an outright majority of the participants do not actively engage in violence personally, but they sure as heck don’t do much to restrain or dissuade those who do.
So sorry if you view my analogy as absurd. I just don’t think violence has a de minimus threshold for it becoming a problem. If I am the one whose store gets looted or burned during a „protest“ it is very meager comfort to me that „hey, MOST of the people here didn’t destroy my livelihood“
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Did anyone ever claim that the store owner should be comforted by the fact that if was mostly peaceful?
Did anyone ever claim that the destruction and violence wasn't a problem?
Did anyone ever claim that a majority needed to turn violent for a protest to no longer be mostly peaceful?
I think the numbers I through out there were 500 out of 10,000 - 5%.
 
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McDad said:
The hubris of this absurdity is astounding.

I remember vividly how many were up in arms about Trump's lies. I'm sure they will be along momentarily to condemn this balderdash.
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I'm up in arms about these lies! Balderdash condemned
 
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luthervol said:
Sure it was honest, but slanted.
If 10,000 people protest and 9,500 are peaceful - that is mostly peaceful, is it not.
It's not like they weren't filming in front of a burning building.
If they were dishonest, they would green screened out the burning building and replaced it with people holding hands and singing "We Shall Overcome."
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So, by your definition, I guess January 6, 2021 was nothing more than a mostly peaceful protest. However, I bet if I jump into that other thread, I'll see you arguing otherwise.
 
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luthervol said:
Did anyone ever claim that the store owner should be comforted by the fact that if was mostly peaceful?
Did anyone ever claim that the destruction and violence wasn't a problem?
Did anyone ever claim that a majority needed to turn violent for a protest to no longer be mostly peaceful?
I think the numbers I through out there were 500 out of 10,000 - 5%.
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A lynch mob of 100 only needs 1 noose man. 1%
So if 5% violent = mostly peaceful, what IS the exact number marking the transformation into violent? 10%? 12.5%? 20%?
We need a line of demarcation if we want to go down this road.
 
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McDad said:
Excellent.

Now, if we can get a "harumph" or two, we'll be in business.
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luthervol said:
Did anyone ever claim that the store owner should be comforted by the fact that if was mostly peaceful?
Did anyone ever claim that the destruction and violence wasn't a problem?
Did anyone ever claim that a majority needed to turn violent for a protest to no longer be mostly peaceful?
I think the numbers I through out there were 500 out of 10,000 - 5%.
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Yea your ratio is a bit off. Hell the media and politicians you love encouraged it.
 
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