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SpaceCoastVol said:
Why is it impossible? I think it is essential at this point. Right now it is little better than sandlot pick up ball in a sense as far as building a team goes. The portal must be a nightmare for these coaches when a player can just up and go in the middle of the night.
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Once the schools agree that athletics is an employer/employee relationship and seek an Antitrust Exemption from Congress, they're acknowledging college athletics is a pro situation.

Trying to "reset" that it isn't an employer/employee relationship is like legally trying to unring a bell.
 
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Voltopia said:
Heh. It is a disgust in some ways, true. My reaction is mostly around the mismanagement that got us here, twinged with a lot of "you're going to miss this when it's gone" energy.

I do confess that I get incredibly judgmental about the commercialization of the sport. The canned commercial music overtake the unique stuff the Pride did, the spiraling prices, the synthesized experiences, or even just the ways games used to be run. I'm a bit antiquated in my thinking for some.
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At least they put in all those rules to "shorten the game". You do realize that the noon games used to run from 12 until 3:30 or 4 in the afternoon. Now they run from 12 until..... ummmmm yeah.

But at least I know there is a drug out there for one of any number of diseases it is unlikely I will ever get, so I have that going for me. And trucks.... and beer.... and network TV. YAY!
 
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Voltopia said:
Maybe. Maybe not. If Congress provides laws that allow for athletic scholarships for schools, within certain frameworks, it could be possible. Maybe a situation with strict rules on money and how it's handled, revenue, etc., such as it is. Anything's possible if the laws are made for it. Schools are still offering scholarships for athletics programs, last I checked. If the whole concept of "scholarships in exchange for athetlic performance" is just completely illegal, then every athletic scholarship in existence needs to be revoked, immediately. And maybe that's what it is, maybe the entire concept of athletic scholarships is just bunk now. That's a whole tangle to figure out though, since a lot of those really are boons to the students that accept them. Eh. A bigger ball of wax than I can melt, to be sure.
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Sure Congress can get it right and make it work but this is Congress we're talking about.

If history is any indication it'll be in committee until we're all worm food AND CTE lawsuits have made football all flag football only.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Once the schools agree that athletics is an employer/employee relationship and seek an Antitrust Exemption from Congress, they're acknowledging college athletics is a pro situation.

Trying to "reset" that it isn't an employer/employee relationship is like legally trying to unring a bell.
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Yeah, and? Who is delusional enough at this point to think it ISN'T a professional situation?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Yeah, and? Who is delusional enough at this point to think it ISN'T a professional situation?
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Not that I don't understand your point, but the vast majority of colleges - which operate sports programs that never make a dime, but do provide opportunities for their student-athletes by working with alumni and local sponsors to fund those programs - I think they might say what they do is not professional. I think they could make a case for themselves.

That's one of the biggest problems we've got with it. Power 5 college football - and slightly, college basketball - has distorted the framework for everything else.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
That is actually a fair question. I can really only speak for myself, but I think money is more a driving factor for many fans than love of the teams/schools. Maybe the definition of a true fan has changed since I was in school.
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I think that is spot on. "I spent $$$ on going to UT games! They need to win championships!" The posts in here are evident of a sector of those type fans

Edit: Overall, our men's athletic teams are super elite nationally, as an aggregate.
 
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MAD said:
Players care more about their own interests over the team’s.

I’m wondering how many college football players look at the playoffs as almost a punishment. They see their peers working their future in the portal and trying to enhance what’s best for their NIL while they are still having to play, practice, no real vacation and missing out on a lot of opportunities for up to 4 games. In today’s climate if you don’t win it all it’s been a failed season. The system feels broken and I don’t see any solution of fixing it.
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I had this exact same thought. the team that wins the natty and the runner up will have played either 16 or 17 games. that's a lot of wear and tear, increased risk of injury, etc.
 
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Voltopia said:
Well, the vast majority of colleges, which operate sports programs that never make a dime, but do provide opportunities for their student-athletes by working with alumni and local sponsors to fund those programs. I think they could make a case for themselves.

That's one of the biggest problems we've got with it. Power 5 college football - and slightly, college basketball - has distorted the framework for everything else.
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Interesting. But the big money doesn't give a ****. Women's lacrosse can die tomorrow and no one will notice. What's more, the vast majority of Americans won't care. But by God sanction Georgia's football program and you have real problems. Idaho... notsomuch.
 
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I don't like any of this stuff any more than anyone else...but if we want to thrive, we better figure out how to play the game, while they are figuring out what CFB needs to look like in the future. We have all of the ingredients to be an every year top 10 team...culture, funding, traditions, infrastructure, large and passionate fan base.
 
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Voltopia said:
Not that I don't understand your point, but the vast majority of colleges - which operate sports programs that never make a dime, but do provide opportunities for their student-athletes by working with alumni and local sponsors to fund those programs - I think they might say what they do is not professional. I think they could make a case for themselves.

That's one of the biggest problems we've got with it. Power 5 college football - and slightly, college basketball - has distorted the framework for everything else.
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This is why I've kept preaching that the really successful, high money schools should break away ASAP and form a pro league for revenue sports separate from the universities.

They're actually hurting athletes for whom the scholarship and education is a blessing and the experience of playing college ball and being part of the college is the best time of their lives. It sounds like a Mickey Rooney/Judy Garland movie but there's a lot of good from a legitimate college sports experience for both the players and the other students. It doesn't have to be about money.

As it is, the money schools are burning it down, I'm afraid, for all schools.
 
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