Prozac Nation Is Now United State of Xanax

#51
#51
K-town Vol Fan said:
Doubt it. I doubt some southern states ever legalize it. Tennessee included. Alcohol and tobacco rule these states. Aside from that, Jeff Sessions hates marijuana and wants to increase penalties.
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If say Alabama legalized it (and not just at the University for football players), Miss, Fla, GA, and TN would too ASAP. Once the politicians see the tax revenue leaving the state cofers, it is amazing what they suddenly approve.
 
#52
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McDad said:
If say Alabama legalized it (and not just at the University for football players), Miss, Fla, GA, and TN would too ASAP. Once the politicians see the tax revenue leaving the state cofers, it is amazing what they suddenly approve.
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I think that's the quandry though, dad. If they legalize it, you'll have small growers pop up and there will not be as much revenue as one might think. If you do it Colorado style maybe. I suppose it will depend on how they structure the legalization.
 
#53
#53
InVOLuntary said:
I think that's the quandry though, dad. If they legalize it, you'll have small growers pop up and there will not be as much revenue as one might think. If you do it Colorado style maybe. I suppose it will depend on how they structure the legalization.
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True. In Colorado, mega-growers came in and made it difficult for the small-time grower to compete. I suspect same would happen wherever it is legalized.
 
#54
#54
It's not like home-brewers ruined the alcohol industry. They exist, plenty of people do it, but most just buy from the store.

And you sort of have to move to mega-growers so that you can regulate things and keep it all on point.
 
#56
#56
DrRosenRosen said:
It's not like home-brewers ruined the alcohol industry. They exist, plenty of people do it, but most just buy from the store.

And you sort of have to move to mega-growers so that you can regulate things and keep it all on point.
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Good point. The only thing is that it is still illegal to make distilled alcoholic beverages. I thin it is still illegal to make any alcoholic beverages for resale without the tax stamp. I wonder if it would be illegal to grow your own. I was thinking in Colorado you can grow a little for personal consumption but I could be wrong.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Good point. The only thing is that it is still illegal to make distilled alcoholic beverages. I thin it is still illegal to make any alcoholic beverages for resale without the tax stamp. I wonder if it would be illegal to grow your own. I was thinking in Colorado you can grow a little for personal consumption but I could be wrong.
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Yep, just like booze you can grow up to a certain amount (number of plants). I'd love to have a little hobby of growing some downstairs.
 
#60
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508mikey said:
problem is employers will still drug test for it and fire anyone that fails the test
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When the illegal aspect of it is dropped and employers become truly informed of it's risks/benefits I don't think it'll be an issue at that point.
 
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#61
Ulysees E. McGill said:
Screw you, and society at largest with your generalizations that penalize and humiliate people, who just want to be able to have some semblance of quality of life. I shouldn't have made it personal, but it is with me.
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He's just one of the fortunate ones that's never experienced chronic pain. It's this type that thinks everything is a farce
 
#62
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McDad said:
It's probably gonna end up like obscure laws from 100 years ago. Like, "you can't carry a duck into a grocery store after 6pm".

Pot will still be illegal. Nobody will care or enforce.
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Only outlaws carry ducks into grocery stores after 6pm.
 
#63
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Carl Pickens said:
He's just one of the fortunate ones that's never experienced chronic pain. It's this type that thinks everything is a farce
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They're buying the hype. I watched a man last week who is 40 years old and was literally crushed in a Coal mine have to go through a ridiculous ordeal to get his monthly prescription. I know people abuse medicine, but for Gods sake people, please stop demonizing the legitimate use of pain meds. Oxy was the big drug here, now that Kentucky has scared every doctor in the state into submission and opiates are hard to get...Meth and Heroin are flooding in.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
They're buying the hype. I watched a man last week who is 40 years old and was literally crushed in a Coal mine have to go through a ridiculous ordeal to get his monthly prescription. I know people abuse medicine, but for Gods sake people, please stop demonizing the legitimate use of pain meds. Oxy was the big drug here, now that Kentucky has scared every doctor in the state into submission and opiates are hard to get...Meth and Heroin are flooding in.
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Sure is great for people who own prisons.
 
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OldandStillaVol said:
Yes, I've read that the large growers out west tinker with various strains and then measure the amount of the different canabinoids that are produced.
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Everything is tested by law. Anything sold has testing data with it including THC and CBD levels, etc along with testing dates and batch numbers. Just like alcohol levels in drinks.
 
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#68
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OldandStillaVol said:
Yes, I've read that the large growers out west tinker with various strains and then measure the amount of the different canabinoids that are produced.
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Oh, I figured they had been doing that for a while.

I meant the nonsense like "grown on an organic farm ran by transgender monks, fertilized by fair trade endangered yak sh!t, and turned toward the sun during growing to give it an interesting aftertaste..."
 
#69
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Screw you, and society at largest with your generalizations that penalize and humiliate people, who just want to be able to have some semblance of quality of life. I shouldn't have made it personal, but it is with me.
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Me too. In the late 1970's, with (at the time) inoperable damaged discs and vertebrae; I got in my car and that motion shifted a piece of damaged spine against my spinal cord. I could not move, much less lift my foot to a pedal. I'd yell for help from neighbors then realized every one had already left for the day. I sat in the car for 45 minutes then opened the door and rolled onto the driveway on my hands and knees. Trembling with indescribable pain. Screaming as loud as I could for help and no one heard.

After years of no relief, the neurosurgeon was able to determine what he could do by MRI scans. Now with laser surgery it is miracle like what can be done.

But unless you have had that kind of pain, it's hard to describe. The closest I can come to the worst of it is if you cut the socket end off of an extension cord and wrapped the bared wires around an ice pick, plugged it in and jabbed that into your spine at your beltline. At times, it would start while walking and happen every time I put my left foot down. I'd just sink to the floor.

Saying we should have to live with that shows no understanding. None at all.
 
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Coug said:
When the illegal aspect of it is dropped and employers become truly informed of it's risks/benefits I don't think it'll be an issue at that point.
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Just don't show up after lunch with roadmaps for eyeballs going,"Oh, maaahan, loook at the new construction documents! That stack of specs is gonna be killah"!
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
Me too. In the late 1970's, with (at the time) inoperable damaged discs and vertebrae; I got in my car and that motion shifted a piece of damaged spine against my spinal cord. I could not move, much less lift my foot to a pedal. I'd yell for help from neighbors then realized every one had already left for the day. I sat in the car for 45 minutes then opened the door and rolled onto the driveway on my hands and knees. Trembling with indescribable pain. Screaming as loud as I could for help and no one heard.

After years of no relief, the neurosurgeon was able to determine what he could do by MRI scans. Now with laser surgery it is miracle like what can be done.

But unless you have had that kind of pain, it's hard to describe. The closest I can come to the worst of it is if you cut the socket end off of an extension cord and wrapped the bared wires around an ice pick, plugged it in and jabbed that into your spine at your beltline. At times, it would start while walking and happen every time I put my left foot down. I'd just sink to the floor.

Saying we should have to live with that shows no understanding. None at all.
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I have had 2 back surgeries for this exact thing. 1st one was 25 grand and didn't help...2nd one was spinal fusion with titanium rods and screws and it is much better. Still have permanent pain...but not the u unbearable pain that would have made me commit suicide once my kids were grown. Had to give my wife control over my pain meds for 2nd surgery...aftwr 7 years of pain pills and rounds of injections, 2 surgeries, I was addicted. After 1 or 2 months on pain pills you are addicted. It could have very easily destroyed my family. Now these days everyone is on heroin instead becausebthe same doctors that over prescribed pan. Pills for 20 years will not prescribe any...i know many older people who have real pain from operation etc that are humiliated, spend thousands on drug tests, and are treated like crack heads just to get the meds they need from pain clinics to be able to function. It's insane.

To the judgmental butthole that has never been in real pain...get a life. You are in NO place to judge anyone. Worry about yourself and your own sin. That's what you will answer for. Chump.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
Me too. In the late 1970's, with (at the time) inoperable damaged discs and vertebrae; I got in my car and that motion shifted a piece of damaged spine against my spinal cord. I could not move, much less lift my foot to a pedal. I'd yell for help from neighbors then realized every one had already left for the day. I sat in the car for 45 minutes then opened the door and rolled onto the driveway on my hands and knees. Trembling with indescribable pain. Screaming as loud as I could for help and no one heard.

After years of no relief, the neurosurgeon was able to determine what he could do by MRI scans. Now with laser surgery it is miracle like what can be done.

But unless you have had that kind of pain, it's hard to describe. The closest I can come to the worst of it is if you cut the socket end off of an extension cord and wrapped the bared wires around an ice pick, plugged it in and jabbed that into your spine at your beltline. At times, it would start while walking and happen every time I put my left foot down. I'd just sink to the floor.

Saying we should have to live with that shows no understanding. None at all.
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That is exactly what it feels like. I was bent over rinsing out a bucket I used to mix self leveling cement in one day about ten years ago when the same thing happened to me. It felt like an explosion, I passed out and busted up my face when I fell face first to the concrete. I laid there unable to move for awhile before I was able to dig my phone out of my pocket and call my brother. The insurance we had through my wife's work wouldn't pay for surgery, so I have just had to live with it for years now. I use pain killers on a limited basis when I just can't take it anymore. It is humiliating and embarrassing the way we are treated. I drive 50 miles to see a doc, so the idiots in town don't find out from the blabbermouth small town nurses.
 
#73
#73
Orangedogsrule said:
Just don't show up after lunch with roadmaps for eyeballs going,"Oh, maaahan, loook at the new construction documents! That stack of specs is gonna be killah"!
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Yup! Simply not doing it before work nor during work would be your safest choice.
 
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