QB play this year

[sjt18]

I agree. But remember its speculation.

I think he was being facetious. That TD/INT ratio would be very good.

To answer your question, it would be looked at as a massive turnaround by the program and Worley. I think Jones would consider it a product of his method/system.

 

[thebjd]

Come on cwby, you know what I'm saying. I'm talking about on any appreciable scale. I'm sure there are UT fans in California who would be excited, but the Sacramento Bee or LA Times wouldn't have a story about the 3rd or 4th place team in the SEC East on the cover of their sports page taking a big leap forward and returning to national prominence. However, if Tennessee miraculously finishes 11-2 and is talked about or actually gets into the final 4 then we're getting national pub. That's the distinction I'm making.

Put it another way. Iowa is a nationally known program in the Big 10. Last year they improved from 4-8 in 2012 to 8-5, from 5th in their division in 2012 to 2nd in their division. Was there some national groundswell for Iowa last year? Did you know, as a Tennessee fan, that Iowa had a big turnaround similar to the scope that's being discussed/theorized here about Tennessee? Of course not.

If Iowa became giant slayers like Tennessee will have to be to get to 8-4 we would have noticed a little. I agree that 8-4 wouldn't be a huge national story but the top story on Saturday would be the Tennessee game if we knock off Oklahoma, UGA, UA or USCe.

 

[cwbytruckers]

Come on cwby, you know what I'm saying. I'm talking about on any appreciable scale. I'm sure there are UT fans in California who would be excited, but the Sacramento Bee or LA Times wouldn't have a story about the 3rd or 4th place team in the SEC East on the cover of their sports page taking a big leap forward and returning to national prominence. However, if Tennessee miraculously finishes 11-2 and is talked about or actually gets into the final 4 then we're getting national pub. That's the distinction I'm making.

Put it another way. Iowa is a nationally known program in the Big 10. Last year they improved from 4-8 in 2012 to 8-5, from 5th in their division in 2012 to 2nd in their division. Was there some national groundswell for Iowa last year? Did you know, as a Tennessee fan, that Iowa had a big turnaround similar to the scope that's being discussed/theorized here about Tennessee? Of course not.

True. So true. But to compare Iowa 8-4 in the big 10 to 8-4 in the SEC. You lost me there. LOL. But good discussion so far.

 

[Chilmonty]

My only hope is that the QB situation does NOT go like last year!

Example, 90% of threads last season:

"Bench (insert QB of choice) and Start (insert QB of choice)!!" :banghead2::banghead2:


.

 

[sjt18]

we beat usc, had georgia on the ropes, and florida sucked why would we not be competitive in these games this year. i think 8 wins is possible

IMO, UT beats Mizzou and USU easier because UT is not playing last year's teams. By the same token, UGA is not likely to be missing their top 4 or 5 playmakers. That will be a tough game.

USCe IMO is much more sketchy. They bring alot of guys back but lose some very, very key guys. Shaw's likely replacement Thompson looks good overall statistically but is very inconsistent. In his two most significant games last fall, UCF and Mizzou, he combined to complete 30/59 for 483 yds. His failure to make plays vs MU caused SOS to yank him. Shaw led them to a major comeback victory after it looked like MU had it locked up.

 

[TommyOler]

I'd call it a solid turnaround. The right man is at the helm... and the Vols are due some breaks. (Breaks are where opportunity and team speed intersect... example = someone just a hair faster than Pig Howard on a fly-sweep might go into the end zone standing up, as opposed to a one handed dive for the pylon...)

No disrespect intended toward Pig Howard and his effort, on that play, by the way.

Love me some Pig. He's got some juice...and ton of heart.

 

[TommyOler]

USCe IMO is much more sketchy. They bring alot of guys back but lose some very, very key guys. Shaw's likely replacement Thompson looks good overall statistically but is very inconsistent. In his two most significant games last fall, UCF and Mizzou, he combined to complete 30/59 for 483 yds. His failure to make plays vs MU caused SOS to yank him. Shaw led them to a major comeback victory after it looked like MU had it locked up.

I'm with you... I think the Gamecocks are a 7-5 / 8-4 team, this year. Beating them in Columbia will be a chore, no doubt, but the Vols were one Clowney sack removed from beating them there with Dooley leading the charge.

South Carolina fans are sweating the UT game.. as opposed to looking forward to exacting some revenge.

 

[KBVol]

I think he was being facetious. That TD/INT ratio would be very good.

To answer your question, it would be looked at as a massive turnaround by the program and Worley. I think Jones would consider it a product of his method/system.

Thank you 18. My attempt apparently went unnoticed.

 

[CR10]

Guys, I have been a vols fan all my life. Y'all honestly believe that if we go 8-4 we will be in the national spot light. Far as I remember none of the media has even given the vols credit for anything. Especially Espn or any sport reporter, anything on the vols has been short & brief over the last 3 decades. If Worley stays healthy we have a good chance at any game that we are not expected to win.

 

[KBVol]

True. So true. But to compare Iowa 8-4 in the big 10 to 8-4 in the SEC. You lost me there. LOL. But good discussion so far.

It was just an example. Of course I lost you because you, like me, are a huge Tennessee fan. The other fans and media around the country who don't follow, live and die, even respect UT and SEC football wouldn't care. That's my point.

 

[patrick]

Let's say Worley comes out this year and throws for 25 TD's and 9 INT's. Running game is productive. And this leads to an 8-4 season. Forget who we beat. Its only speculation. QB play has been a major problem recently. No one has really had any confidence in this position for a while. So long story short. If Worley has this kind of season and better recruits start taking notice of Butch Jones and this coaching staffs success. Does this qualify as one of the biggest turn arounds in football? This program has a proud tradition. But recent losing streaks and poor coaching hires. It appeared for the most part dead in its tracks. So is this one of the big turn arounds or just nutrition coming back around?

Thumbs up for the positive thoughts however I believe you are being overly optimistic about Worley's abilities. I do not think that he will come anywhere near the stats you projected not do I think the Vols will go 8 and 4 in regular season.

 

[DC Vol]

Thumbs up for the positive thoughts however I believe you are being overly optimistic about Worley's abilities. I do not think that he will come anywhere near the stats you projected not do I think the Vols will go 8 and 4 in regular season.

Kiffin came in and said he would nuture Crompton to being an NFL draft pick.

Everyone laughed.

Then Crompton went 13/26 for 93 yards. 0 TD and 3 INT against UCLA.

Everyone laughed more. Look how right they were. Didn't matter that UT was 1-1 and lost on the road to a lackluster UCLA team... they were right and that's what mattered.

Then Crompton went for 2800 yards 27 TD and 10 INT for the rest of the year and was drafted in the NFL after leading UT to a 7-5 overall record.

Crompton.

Broken @ss Crompton.

Everyone then shut up and realized they didn't know much about what they thought they knew everything about.

 

[MWAVolfan]

If Iowa became giant slayers like Tennessee will have to be to get to 8-4 we would have noticed a little. I agree that 8-4 wouldn't be a huge national story but the top story on Saturday would be the Tennessee game if we knock off Oklahoma, UGA, UA or USCe.

Tennessee would not have to be giant-slayers to get to 8-4.

The four toughest games are the only "giants" on our schedule: OK, Bama, UGA and USC.

We dont have to beat any of them to get to 8-4.

We do however have to absolutely take care of business against Ole Miss, Florida and Missouri to make it to 8-4, but none of those teams are "giants" right now.

 

[MWAVolfan]

Kiffin came in and said he would nuture Crompton to being an NFL draft pick.

Everyone laughed.

Then Crompton went 13/26 for 93 yards. 0 TD and 3 INT against UCLA.

Everyone laughed more. Look how right they were. Didn't matter that UT was 1-1 and lost on the road to a lackluster UCLA team... they were right and that's what mattered.

Then Crompton went for 2800 yards 27 TD and 10 INT for the rest of the year and was drafted in the NFL after leading UT to a 7-5 overall record.

Crompton.

Broken @ss Crompton.

Everyone then shut up and realized they didn't know much about what they thought they knew everything about.

Crompton was one of the biggest disappointments in Tennessee history.

He was barely drafted (fifth round) and never made it off the practice squad. Many SEC quarterbacks that were FAR better than Crompton ever was suffered similar fates.

You're talking about how "everyone then shut up". You dont know what the hell your talking about. I NEVER shut up talking about what a disappointment he was. Tyler freaking Bray was a better QB than Crompton and that isnt saying much. Crompton goes toward the bottom of the list of Tennessee QBs from the last 30 years. Just ahead of Worley and Dobbs. One of the biggest disappointments based on how hyped he was when he was recruited.

 

[Give_All_Vol]

Crompton was one of the biggest disappointments in Tennessee history.

He was barely drafted (fifth round) and never made it off the practice squad. Many SEC quarterbacks that were FAR better than Crompton ever was suffered similar fates.

You're talking about how "everyone then shut up". You dont know what the hell your talking about. I NEVER shut up talking about what a disappointment he was. Tyler freaking Bray was a better QB than Crompton and that isnt saying much. Crompton goes toward the bottom of the list of Tennessee QBs from the last 30 years. Just ahead of Worley and Dobbs. One of the biggest disappointments based on how hyped he was when he was recruited.

Wow man... you don't have to like Bray but saying that he was disappointing as a QB is just foolish.

 

[monkeymantn]

Quite honestly, unless we play for a national championship/make it to the 4 team playoff like Auburn did last year, no one outside of the southeast will even notice Tennessee. 8-4 would be great for the program but no one nationally would care.

Players and recruits would definitely notice. However, "experts" would still predict us go 5-7 the following year.

 

[KBVol]

Players and recruits would definitely notice. However, "experts" would still predict us go 5-7 the following year.

Please go back a page or 2 and read my last 3-4 posts. Specifically said I was not talking about recruits.

 

[monkeymantn]

Please go back a page or 2 and read my last 3-4 posts. Specifically said I was not talking about recruits.

I'm simply stating that a season like that would rejuvenate our program. It would give our players and future recruits confidence in the program moving forward. I don't have orange lenses on and I don't expect us to go 8-4. I think anything better than 6-6 would be great. However, my bigger point to my post was that we will still be underrated in the eyes of the media.

 

[thebjd]

Tennessee would not have to be giant-slayers to get to 8-4.

The four toughest games are the only "giants" on our schedule: OK, Bama, UGA and USC.

We dont have to beat any of them to get to 8-4.

We do however have to absolutely take care of business against Ole Miss, Florida and Missouri to make it to 8-4, but none of those teams are "giants" right now.

Read my prior post. I think we agree. I was stating that if we knock off one of the four you mention we would be the top story for that Saturday.

 

[sjt18]

Thank you 18. My attempt apparently went unnoticed.

A` sus ordenes Senor...:hi:

 

[KBVol]

I'm simply stating that a season like that would rejuvenate our program. It would give our players and future recruits confidence in the program moving forward. I don't have orange lenses on and I don't expect us to go 8-4. I think anything better than 6-6 would be great. However, my bigger point to my post was that we will still be underrated in the eyes of the media.

All valid points, but that's not what I was discussing with the other poster.

 

[butchna]

Thumbs up for the positive thoughts however I believe you are being overly optimistic about Worley's abilities. I do not think that he will come anywhere near the stats you projected not do I think the Vols will go 8 and 4 in regular season.

Because he throws too much for a QB?...right?

 

[Rooster1]

Let's say Worley comes out this year and throws for 25 TD's and 9 INT's. Running game is productive. And this leads to an 8-4 season. Forget who we beat. Its only speculation. QB play has been a major problem recently. No one has really had any confidence in this position for a while. So long story short. If Worley has this kind of season and better recruits start taking notice of Butch Jones and this coaching staffs success. Does this qualify as one of the biggest turn arounds in football? This program has a proud tradition. But recent losing streaks and poor coaching hires. It appeared for the most part dead in its tracks. So is this one of the big turn arounds or just nutrition coming back around?

Let's say.