QB practice to game time

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I'm not a coach, so I am pretty dumb when it comes to game time decisions. I have a question after the Butch Jones comment about the QB job being wide open. How can you evaluate a QB during weekly practices? It is pretty much a controlled situation. The game calls are pretty much predictable ... to a point. Your also comparing the defense you put on the field for practice to that of the opposing team during game time. How do you know that a QB's performance from practice will carry over to the live game situations?
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
i'm not a coach, so i am pretty dumb when it comes to game time decisions. I have a question after the butch jones comment about the qb job being wide open. How can you evaluate a qb during weekly practices? It is pretty much a controlled situation. The game calls are pretty much predictable ... To a point. Your also comparing the defense you put on the field for practice to that of the opposing team during game time. How do you know that a qb's performance from practice will carry over to the live game situations?
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agree thats why we in trouble he chose worley. He looks good in practice. So now give someone else a chance
 
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You don't, but you have to compare decision making skills, fundamentals, pure skill, and playbook knowledge. Then choose the best one and hope for the best.
 
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rickyb712 said:
agree thats why we in trouble he chose worley. He looks good in practice. So now give someone else a chance
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Even if Worley manages the offense in practice and does nothing to lose the job, I don't think he should start this week. Unless he absolutely pulls away head and shoulders above Peterman and Fergie this week, we should give one of the others a shot. He has done absolutely NOTHING to this point to make me believe he can be an SEC quarterback. At least present that element of a new quarterback with a different skill set so that Florida will not be as prepared. Of course, with Worsley under center there isn't very much you would be worried about preparing for as a DC.
 
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If we are going to run this offense, at least have a QB who is a threat to run. At this point I can't imagine any of the QBs being a worse passer than Worley.
 
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Commenting on the OP. Anyone that has grown up participating in sports knows the difference between a practice player and a game player. Practice players light it up in practice all the time but don't really have the competitive mentality for game play so they tend to be timid and hesitant when faced with outside competition. The only way you ever learn this about someone is to put them in the game and give them a chance. Sometimes it takes a little time for inexperienced players to adjust to game competition but after a while it becomes clear whether they have "it" or not. Sometimes guys that start slow can grow into "it"; oftentimes, not. It's really the same chance you take with all players and it's 90% mental.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
I'm not a coach, so I am pretty dumb when it comes to game time decisions. I have a question after the Butch Jones comment about the QB job being wide open. How can you evaluate a QB during weekly practices? It is pretty much a controlled situation. The game calls are pretty much predictable ... to a point. Your also comparing the defense you put on the field for practice to that of the opposing team during game time. How do you know that a QB's performance from practice will carry over to the live game situations?
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You don't.
 
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dbrock9 said:
If we are going to run this offense, at least have a QB who is a threat to run. At this point I can't imagine any of the QBs being a worse passer than Worley.
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Actually all you need is a qb who can make the plays when they are there. Worley is missing on some big plays. He has to complete passes to wide open wr's which will also open up the running game even more. We don't need a "running qb" to make this offense work, that's already been proven.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
I'm not a coach, so I am pretty dumb when it comes to game time decisions. I have a question after the Butch Jones comment about the QB job being wide open. How can you evaluate a QB during weekly practices? It is pretty much a controlled situation. The game calls are pretty much predictable ... to a point. Your also comparing the defense you put on the field for practice to that of the opposing team during game time. How do you know that a QB's performance from practice will carry over to the live game situations?
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I hate to be the guy, but you are asking a question about a coaching decision to other folks that are also not coaches
 
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Great question....I agree with what has been posted. There are practice players and there are gamers. I think we should see if we have a gamer. However, I support CBJ! I will back his decision and cheer for our Vols!
 
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Has Worley looked good in practice? Or just better than the others? If it wasn't close-- or the coaches didn't think someone else could step it up-- Worley would have been named starter in the spring. QB by default isn't high praise-- it's trying to make lemonade with sour lemons.
 
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KingtUT said:
Actually all you need is a qb who can make the plays when they are there. Worley is missing on some big plays. He has to complete passes to wide open wr's which will also open up the running game even more. We don't need a "running qb" to make this offense work, that's already been proven.
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A more mobile QB would help but is not needed.

Worley is hesitating. Jones apparently hoped he would pull out of it... but is now considering pulling the plug.

Will be very interesting....

FWIW, a QB with the "it" factor won't flinch if they get their first start at UF... they might be crushed after it is over... but going in they will not question their ability to compete. Worley may be questioning himself right now more than any of the others.

Oh... and a coach with the "it" factor will take action when a QB doesn't have it. Again,.... will be very interesting to watch.
 
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LA Vol said:
Has Worley looked good in practice? Or just better than the others? If it wasn't close-- or the coaches didn't think someone else could step it up-- Worley would have been named starter in the spring. QB by default isn't high praise-- it's trying to make lemonade with sour lemons.
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I don't think so concerning naming him the starter. Jones promised Ferguson and Dobbs a fair shot before a starter was named. Worley might should have separated himself more... but I doubt Jones was going to name a starter before he did.

That said, it looks as if Jones may be leaning toward potential and talent over experience now that Worley's experience isn't panning out.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
I'm not a coach, so I am pretty dumb when it comes to game time decisions. I have a question after the Butch Jones comment about the QB job being wide open. How can you evaluate a QB during weekly practices? It is pretty much a controlled situation. The game calls are pretty much predictable ... to a point. Your also comparing the defense you put on the field for practice to that of the opposing team during game time. How do you know that a QB's performance from practice will carry over to the live game situations?
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I think this is probably why Worley has been the starter up till now. IDK that Butch knows who the starter will be for sure but I think he's seen enough of Worley to know a change is needed.
 
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sjt18 said:
That said, it looks as if Jones may be leaning toward potential and talent over experience now that Worley's experience isn't panning out.
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That's what it looks like. Worley's upside seems pretty limited at this point. I doubt CBJ will skip over Peterman, though. I think Peterman will get his shot for a game or two, before we move down the chain to a freshman. It's anybody's guess, really.
 
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TheBigOne10 said:
Even if Worley manages the offense in practice and does nothing to lose the job, I don't think he should start this week. Unless he absolutely pulls away head and shoulders above Peterman and Fergie this week, we should give one of the others a shot. He has done absolutely NOTHING to this point to make me believe he can be an SEC quarterback. At least present that element of a new quarterback with a different skill set so that Florida will not be as prepared. Of course, with Worsley under center there isn't very much you would be worried about preparing for as a DC.
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Damn the truth hurts...
 
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I would make it real simple since whoever wins isn't gonna be much better than the ones who don't. I would give each QB ten plays against the number one defense and the one who created the most yards would start. This is called the eni meani mini moe effect. It is a sure way to get a winner at QB.
 
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CountVolcula said:
I hate to be the guy, but you are asking a question about a coaching decision to other folks that are also not coaches
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Dude, everyone knows that Butch Jones gets his game plan from Vol Nation.

To the OP, don't worry, we will let CBJ know who to start by Thursday. Vol Nation is still evaluating our QB's
 
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DaddyChad said:
I think this is probably why Worley has been the starter up till now. IDK that Butch knows who the starter will be for sure but I think he's seen enough of Worley to know a change is needed.
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The problem I have with this judgment is that it ignores the fact that Oregon made nearly all of our players look like a change was needed. What would that game have looked like if the QB had committed two or three or four turnovers? Worley had zero turnovers. How many sacks did he have...zero? I agree that the team needs better QB play, but I have no opinion about what should be done.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
I'm not a coach, so I am pretty dumb when it comes to game time decisions. I have a question after the Butch Jones comment about the QB job being wide open. How can you evaluate a QB during weekly practices? It is pretty much a controlled situation. The game calls are pretty much predictable ... to a point. Your also comparing the defense you put on the field for practice to that of the opposing team during game time. How do you know that a QB's performance from practice will carry over to the live game situations?
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It's just coach talk for Worley is out.
 
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