QB Recruiting Discussion

#26
#26
tsad06 said:
Coming full circle after a few comments; my thought process was multi-layered, each year our first major commit has come from the QB, I have to assume for multiple reasons (we heavily invest dollars there, historically great players want to play for a great QB, etc), but we’d be naive to think with the current NIL landscape, these 18 year old high profile athletes are going to go where the money is most offered (for the most part). For UT specifically, the great players haven’t followed Nico or G-Mac in throves. I have to believe we verbally commit such a strong financial package to the QB’s that we do come up short on the other positional players despite we constantly hearing that we made a competitive offer. So while we can’t boost recency in a championship pedigree like Bama, UGA, etc, how do we get over that next hump? Go to Dolly and ask for a line of credit, it seems the only thing being thrown around is raise more money. Having worked in the AD at UT for 5 years in the mid to late 2000’s, it’s never been an issue of investment (see facilities, sponsorships, etc). In my opinion, I think it’s an error in our recruiting strategy, and while I say that, I want to acknowledge I’m in full appreciation of what Coach Heupel has done and is doing, but there is a major difference in top 12-15, and really competing in that Top 5 sector. I understand landing “premier” talent does not always correlate to that player producing. I’ll hang up and listen
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well said.
 
#27
#27
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#28
#28
tsad06 said:
No I said, now that he’s gotten his guy in 4 straight cycles, is it necessary to keep stacking #1 type QB’s in the country, when we have other positions that need uplifting
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I personally would like to see them sign a project like Jennings was.

That’s worked out really well for Tennessee.
J Copeland
J Jennings
CJ Fayton
J Banks (until he got in trouble)

But sign him with the intention to play WR/DB if he can’t get on the field at QB.

Heupel and Company seem to really go off early evaluation first and then really try to the big dawgs after. We were in the CFP last season while a lot of good SEC teams were not. Heupel has a good grip on things.
 
#30
#30
tsad06 said:
Food for thought: With Heupel seemingly getting his guy 4 cycles in a row, and assuming QB’s are getting paid equal how the NFL values the position, would it start to make more sense to go get an “upside developmental” guy, save a few Pennie’s and begin to invest NIL money into stacking players around the QB’s we already have? I mean hypothetical situation; Nico this year, Merlinger or George M. for the next 2 years, we’d have 3 years to develop an upside QB as a bridge gap and/or go portal shopping and we could start investing in positions that naturally need a few years to mature into the game (physically or mentally). Just a food for thought discussion to start off this Monday morning.
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Would you rather have Peyton Manning or Nathan Peterman?
 
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#33
#33
DrTNT said:
Would you rather have Peyton Manning or Nathan Peterman?
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I mean we can cherry pick players to really drive home your point, but I’ll oblige your question and reference QB’s like Dobbs or Bray as examples of QB’s that can be a solid QB while not ranked in the top 10 nationally, please understand that I understand inadequate QB is not a recipe for success but I feel y’all questioning my perspective are also questioning my intelligence of the need for a good QB.
 
#34
#34
Adam Sandler said:
Have to retain Brandon and get him recruiting hard on the summer camp circuit.
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This always sounds great in principle, but we have to understand in the NIL era, we can peer recruit all day long but it will come down to the offer sheet and what potential promises (playing time, etc) we can make happen.
 
#35
#35
tsad06 said:
I mean we can cherry pick players to really drive home your point, but I’ll oblige your question and reference QB’s like Dobbs or Bray as examples of QB’s that can be a solid QB while not ranked in the top 10 nationally, please understand that I understand inadequate QB is not a recipe for success but I feel y’all questioning my perspective are also questioning my intelligence of the need for a good QB.
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Bray was 7th ranked QB by Rivals when we recruited him
Dobbs was 8th ranked QB on 247 when we recruited him


Best to recruit the best players you can get at each position. Now, I think in today’s environment you have to recruit a based on a player’s character just as much as you recruit based on their talent. With the NIL landscape there’s a lot more to recruiting than there used to be.
 
#36
#36
DrTNT said:
Bray was 7th ranked QB by Rivals when we recruited him
Dobbs was 8th ranked QB on 247 when we recruited him


Best to recruit the best players you can get at each position. Now, I think in today’s environment you have to recruit a based on a player’s character just as much as you recruit based on their talent. With the NIL landscape there’s a lot more to recruiting than there used to be.
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Bray was a NFL talent. We had dick on defense.
 
#37
#37
Jackcrevol said:
Bray was a NFL talent. We had dick on defense.
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By and large; most of our classes will have guys littered with NFL talent, but not my point, our brand, logo, AD program should get us a conversation with the best of the best across the country, again my sole conversation point is how we choose to allocate and spend the resources we have. Option #2; ensure your hit rate on fringe guys or portal guys is outstanding.
 
#38
#38
But yes Bray was NFL talent but was seen as a guy needing to be developed, hence why he wasn’t top 10 or even top 25 nationally like Nico or Faizon, I get being enamored by the top guys, heck to this day, pound for pound athlete in regards to watching their metrics, Jenzen Jackson was unbelievable to watch workout and prepare from one offseason to the next, it’s sad that he couldn’t make better choices
 
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