Question about Skylar (not shooting ability)

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I didn't get to watch the game tonight because of a work event, but I'm getting a text from someone, a Kentucky fan, saying that Skylar threw a punch?

Confirm? Deny?


Thanks in advance.
 
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No there was a scuffle after a foul and trae kinda was up close to anthony davis and I think it was lamb who thought golden was startin somethin so he pushed trae in the back. They got kinda feisty after that and McCrae and somebody for Kentucky got technicals but it looked to me like Skylar was just tryin to break it up. He might have accidentally hit somebody but knowing him personally, I don't believe it's in his nature to do somethin like that.
 
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VOLCLASSOF2014 said:
No there was a scuffle after a foul and trae kinda was up close to anthony davis and I think it was lamb who thought golden was startin somethin so he pushed trae in the back. They got kinda feisty after that and McCrae and somebody for Kentucky got technicals but it looked to me like Skylar was just tryin to break it up. He might have accidentally hit somebody but knowing him personally, I don't believe it's in his nature to do somethin like that.
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Of course the story I hear is "SKYLAR THREW A MASSIVE PUNCH!"

Thanks for this well reasoned post. :hi:
 
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stach was just trapped in the middle with his arms up in the air.doing like he usually does,getting in the way
 
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It was all unibrow and Lamb. The fact that we got double technical was laughable, like the rest of the officiating.

Kensucky fans have just been enabled too long by the officials, so they think nothing is their team's fault.
 
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The unibrow and mustache got into a fight. Unfortunately, they weren't ejected and we're stuck with watching both the rest of the season.
 
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Sorry friend...You must be confused with the ball pounding off the rim instead of his fist.......in the first minute he was in the game......he bricked two 3's and got shook right out of his shoes on defense.
 
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I saw plenty of punches, unfortunately it was the refs repeatedly punching us in the nuts.
 
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i like skylars hustle but when he is not hitting his outside shots on the road he doesnt bring a whole lot to the table, and seeing as how we are struggling on offense we need people who can score. i found this stat interesting; skylar 3 point shooting on the road vs at home. i know i know, he plays good defense and hustles and we dont have anything much better to replace him with just pointing out another reason for our road struggles.

AT HOME

30-62
48%

ON THE ROAD

6-26
23%
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
i like skylars hustle but when he is not hitting his outside shots on the road he doesnt bring a whole lot to the table, and seeing as how we are struggling on offense we need people who can score. i found this stat interesting; skylar 3 point shooting on the road vs at home. i know i know, he plays good defense and hustles and we dont have anything much better to replace him with just pointing out another reason for our road struggles.

AT HOME

30-62
48%

ON THE ROAD

6-26
23%
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This is an interesting stat. I like Skylar and I think he has played well this season. People just expect him to make every single shot which is unfair... even though he is a "specialist"."
 
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CAVol said:
This is an interesting stat. I like Skylar and I think he has played well this season. People just expect him to make every single shot which is unfair... even though he is a "specialist"."
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I think asking him to average around 45% is fair, I guess he's just more comfortable at home or used to the background.
 
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CAVol said:
This is an interesting stat. I like Skylar and I think he has played well this season. People just expect him to make every single shot which is unfair... even though he is a "specialist"."
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Hitting 50% is not asking a lot especially when that is all you do.
 
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CAVol said:
45% is pretty dang good. 35-40% is pretty decent. He definitely needs to improve on the road.
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Look up other "specialist" around the country, 45% is atleast where a specialist should be. Look at vandys team, Jenkins and Taylor are both up over 45% and Taylor is about 65% from 3 in sec play. Now that's a specialist, and yet they aren't even considered 3 point specialist.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
i like skylars hustle but when he is not hitting his outside shots on the road he doesnt bring a whole lot to the table, and seeing as how we are struggling on offense we need people who can score. i found this stat interesting; skylar 3 point shooting on the road vs at home. i know i know, he plays good defense and hustles and we dont have anything much better to replace him with just pointing out another reason for our road struggles.

AT HOME

30-62
48%

ON THE ROAD

6-26
23%
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It's almost like Martin needs home and away rosters just like home and away uniforms.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Look up other "specialist" around the country, 45% is atleast where a specialist should be. Look at vandys team, Jenkins and Taylor are both up over 45% and Taylor is about 65% from 3 in sec play. Now that's a specialist, and yet they aren't even considered 3 point specialist.
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Jenkins is a 3 point specialist. He just can do some other stuff. Taylor is an NBA talent, so I would expect him to shoot well. What are these two guys home/road percentages? Vandy has a history of guys that can light it up in Nashville but struggle on the road.
 
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zansdad said:
It's almost like Martin needs home and away rosters just like home and away uniforms.
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if we had someone that could step in and be better than skylar on the road id be all for it, but thats the problem, who? richardson doesnt have an offensive game, mcrae seems to be starting to get it but still probably isnt more of a contributor than mcbee, and we like using mcrae at the 3 now with tatum.

it really just goes back to the fact the we are really limited on talent at the 2&3 positions. everyone is talking about how much better we will be next year, but unless edwards is an improvement or we add someone else i dont see a vast improvement.
 
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zansdad said:
Jenkins is a 3 point specialist. He just can do some other stuff. Taylor is an NBA talent, so I would expect him to shoot well. What are these two guys home/road percentages? Vandy has a history of guys that can light it up in Nashville but struggle on the road.
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i wouldnt label him a 3 point specialist simply because he can do other things, but he is on the fence as far as that goes. at this level he is a more well rounded player, but at the next level he will probably be considered more of a specialist so thats fair enough. just because taylor is a NBA talent doesnt mean that he should be expected to shoot well, there are many 6'7" sf that arent premier shooters in the NBA. Well you are clearly going to be surprised with these numbers since you thought they couldnt translate the shooting on the road...this is what true good shooters do, they shoot well no matter where it is.


John Jenkins
59-137 home 43%
23-49 away 47%

Jeffrey Taylor
23-51 home 45%
14-29 away 48%
 
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Jenkins has been a 3pt specialist since his arrival in Smashville. He has grown in a similar way Loften did while he was here in Knoxville, but to say that he isn't a 3pt specialist is incorrect IMO. He doesn't do much outside of shoot the 3 that is impressive. He has learned how to fake on the catch and take one or two dribbles and pull up, but his ability to "create his own shot" is still usually from the perimeter.
 
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DaDuRkEr said:
Jenkins has been a 3pt specialist since his arrival in Smashville. He has grown in a similar way Loften did while he was here in Knoxville, but to say that he isn't a 3pt specialist is incorrect IMO. He doesn't do much outside of shoot the 3 that is impressive. He has learned how to fake on the catch and take one or two dribbles and pull up, but his ability to "create his own shot" is still usually from the perimeter.
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i did retract my statement somewhat and say that he is probably a 3 point specialist and like you said much like lofton at this level. i agree when jenkins came in that is all he was but he has developed more of a 2 pt fg game than lofton did. jenkins shoots about 8% more of his shots from 2 than lofton did, which equated out to about 4 more 2 pt fg attempts per game than lofton. so he isnt as much of a sole perimeter player as lofton was, and a lot of that probably has to do with the size difference, jenkins is better suited to be in the lane than chris. as you said, his abillity to creat his own shot isnt much better than lofton's, but he does shoot a few more 2's than chris did a game, as evidenced by the numbers.

back to the point though, the whole thing was the poster saying that 45% was a bit high to ask of mcbee to shoot even though he is a 3 point specialist. my point was jenkins shoots over 45% and is much less of a 3 point specialist than skylar is. jenkins shoots 64% of his shots from 3, skylar shoots 88% of his shots from 3 so clearly skylar would be considered more of the one trick pony, 3 point "specialist". i was simply pointing out that someone who isnt as much of a specialist and works on other parts of their offense easily shoots over 45%, meanwhile our guy who ONLY shoots 3 and only practices 3's offensively cant shoot 45%. thats all i was saying.
 
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While McBee might not be all you want out of him in 3pt% his 40% is better than what almost 60% of the league has.

NCAA Basketball Stats - CBSSports.com

Shooting almost 40% from 3pt range in college is pretty good. Chris Lofton only shot 38.4% his senior year, and JJ Riddick shot 39.9, 39.5, 40.3 and 42.1% going from his freshman to senior years. And the line was closer back then. They are #4 and #1 all time in NCAA for makes. Here is a list of all time 3pt FG made. Most of these guys are right around 40%.

List of NCAA Division I men's basketball career 3-point scoring leaders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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