quitting dipping

#52
#52
Not to be a wet blanket, but you still need periodic examinations. Quitting is a great start, but don't be misled into thinking you're completely safe. See Brett Butler is a prime example. Used for 2-3 years and developed throat cancer 15 years after stopping. Good luck with kicking the habit. One of the more difficult things to do.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Not to be a wet blanket, but you still need periodic examinations. Quitting is a great start, but don't be misled into thinking you're completely safe. See Brett Butler is a prime example. Used for 2-3 years and developed throat cancer 15 years after stopping. Good luck with kicking the habit. One of the more difficult things to do.
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As a medical professional how do you differentiate between an addiction and a habit...personally I think addiction along with words such as 'hero and artist' are profoundly overused...in fact I would go so far as to say I don't believe in addiction....
 
#55
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In my mind, a habit is repetitive whereas an addiction is a compulsion. In this instance, I think the prudent approach is to avoid getting caught up with semantics. Instead, a recognition that the use of this product is potentially life altering and/or fatal. Regardless, giving up tobacco products is extremely difficult and sometimes requires medical assistance. I wish the OP the best in his efforts.
 
#56
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Did not read the thread, but I quit after over 10 years of 2 cans a day, January 9th, 2007. I had tried several times over that span, but ultimately, it came down to one day I woke up and really felt that I didn't want it anymore. Quit cold turkey right there. Had horrible headaches and what felt like lock jaw for about a week. I chewed gum and kept it in the side of my mouth. I did relapse to nicotine again about a 1 year and a half later, but I never have put another dip in my mouth. I don't view the relapse as a failure, because it was a major step to winning the battle all together. Anyone who has ever had an addiction issue may be able to understand that. It's a process. Some win overnight and others it takes longer. But moral of the story is you have to truly want to quit. Good luck to you and don't give up if that is what you want.
 
#57
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Good luck on quitting. It is hard to kick the nicotine addiction. I haven't yet. Cut down on smokes but still puffing some.
 
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CAVPUT said:
In my mind, a habit is repetitive whereas an addiction is a compulsion. In this instance, I think the prudent approach is to avoid getting caught up with semantics. Instead, a recognition that the use of this product is potentially life altering and/or fatal. Regardless, giving up tobacco products is extremely difficult and sometimes requires medical assistance. I wish the OP the best in his efforts.
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I beg to differ, I think its all about the 'semantics'...

I think it speaks to the intestinal fortitude, discipline, character , what ever you want to call it of the person....some people are just weak....sounds harsh I know but its true.....and I'm not saying breaking a habit isn't difficult it is...but ultimately its a choice...you can offer all the caveats and political correctness but to stop smoking requires but one thing...if you want it bad enough you can stop...

A poor example is that I grew up in the 60's and 70's and tried a lot of recreational drugs, some that people believed if you try them once 'you'll get hooked'...I have never felt a real 'need' for something other than a cheeseburger....in fact just typing 'cheeseburger' makes me salivate...that banana I had at 5AM has its work cut out for it today...
 
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Ducreux said:
As a medical professional how do you differentiate between an addiction and a habit...personally I think addiction along with words such as 'hero and artist' are profoundly overused...in fact I would go so far as to say I don't believe in addiction....
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You can't not believe in an addiction. By definition addiction indicates an actual physical response to the absence of the substance or activity. The substance or activity feeds a physiological as well as a psychological need, and, when it is removed, there are distinct physiological and psychological reactions.

You can break a habit with no more than a few minutes of psychological distress but no measurable physiological response.
 
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For the OP, my trick was to leave all of my spit cups around until they grew disgustingly gross mold and made me want to vomit. As most of my friends who dipped or chewed, I kept a spit cup in my truck, one near the couch etc. I quit cold turkey, but instead of tossing those out (as I had done the previous 3-4 attempts at quitting), I kept them around. By the time I got through the withdrawal period, they were moldy enough that there was no way I would pick it back up.
 
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YorkVol said:
For the OP, my trick was to leave all of my spit cups around until they grew disgustingly gross mold and made me want to vomit. As most of my friends who dipped or chewed, I kept a spit cup in my truck, one near the couch etc. I quit cold turkey, but instead of tossing those out (as I had done the previous 3-4 attempts at quitting), I kept them around. By the time I got through the withdrawal period, they were moldy enough that there was no way I would pick it back up.
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I was thinking the same thing man. I have left one in my truck for a little while and one in my house that is nearly full brim full of disgusting dip spit, and everytime I look at them it makes me sickly.
 
#62
#62
Me and a buddy decided to take it up one night back in 1997. Sucka had a hold of me for about a hour. Glad I made it out. Been clean now 16 years.
 
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I didn't have a dip all day today based on this thread and to prove I could do it. I'm going to try and quit for good this time
 
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SDV said:
I didn't have a dip all day today based on this thread and to prove I could do it. I'm going to try and quit for good this time
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SDV SDV SDV! You got this

You using seeds or something to help? Maybe jerky chew
 
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salutethehill said:
Me and a buddy decided to take it up one night back in 1997. Sucka had a hold of me for about a hour. Glad I made it out. Been clean now 16 years.
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My grandpa cut me off a chew of his tobacco when I was 8 , made me sick, never tried chewing or dipping again and never forgot how sick it made me. He knew what he was doing. My problem was them ole nasty cigarettes for about 30 years.
 
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DocVOLiday said:
SDV SDV SDV! You got this

You using seeds or something to help? Maybe jerky chew
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I didn't use anything today and thought about my dip quite a bit. Think I'll grab some seeds this morning.
 
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SDV said:
I didn't have a dip all day today based on this thread and to prove I could do it. I'm going to try and quit for good this time
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Great SDV. When you get the urge, check them pics of ol' holms jaw in the earlier post.
 
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Gramps said:
My grandpa cut me off a chew of his tobacco when I was 8 , made me sick, never tried chewing or dipping again and never forgot how sick it made me. He knew what he was doing. My problem was them ole nasty cigarettes for about 30 years.
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I smoked for about 9 years and quit 10 years ago, the day my first-born was born, which was also around the time my dad (long-time smoker) was diagnosed with COPD and congestive heart failure. Thankfully he's long out-lived his prognosis.
 
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#73
#73
After I told myself I was done dipping and continued to put one in every now and then, I'd feel horrible about it.
 
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