Raiders take Pryor in the third round

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so far what Albert Breer is reporting




not sure why they'd feel he's not only worth taking that high here but also forfeiting their 3rd round pick in the next NFL draft
 
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Muschump said:
Confused. Did they trade or something? I have no idea how the supplemental draft works.
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Whatever round you take a player in, you give up in the normal draft next year. Exmp: Raiders take TP in the 3rd round of the supplemental, they have to give up their 3rd round in the 2012 draft. No one will get the pick, just Raiders wont be able to pick anyone when that 3rd round comes up.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Whatever round you take a player in, you give up in the normal draft next year. Exmp: Raiders take TP in the 3rd round of the supplemental, they have to give up their 3rd round in the 2012 draft. No one will get the pick, just Raiders wont be able to pick anyone when that 3rd round comes up.
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Was he the first pick of the draft in the "3rd round" or did other teams give up first and second round picks for players in this thing?
 
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Muschump said:
Was he the first pick of the draft in the "3rd round" or did other teams give up first and second round picks for players in this thing?
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Here is how the supplemental draft works;

Draft order is as follows;

1. Teams with six or fewer wins last season.
2. Non-playoff teams that had six or more wins.
3. Playoff teams.

Teams submit "bids" to the Commissioner for the particular player the team tells the Commish which round they would like the player in and if the bid wins they get the player and lose that particular pick in the following year's draft. Also a team also does not require a team to take players in this draft either, Pryor was the only player drafted in the draft.
 
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Burhead said:
Here is how the supplemental draft works;

Draft order is as follows;

1. Teams with six or fewer wins last season.
2. Non-playoff teams that had six or more wins.
3. Playoff teams.

Teams submit "bids" to the Commissioner for the particular player the team tells the Commish which round they would like the player in and if the bid wins they get the player and lose that particular pick in the following year's draft. Also a team also does not require a team to take players in this draft either, Pryor was the only player drafted in the draft.
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Thanks :good!:
 
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The Raiders were already without a 4th round pick (no 4th in 2012), so I guess they felt he wouldn't last to the 5th round. May be worth the gamble.
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So, Campbell doesn't work out and they go and get a Campbell clone. ESPN is saying they want to use him at WR.
 
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Regulator said:
The Raiders were already without a 4th round pick (no 4th in 2012), so I guess they felt he wouldn't last to the 5th round. May be worth the gamble.
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Also sans 2nd round pick, IIRC.
 
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nbakerld said:
What does Pryor have to do with Campbell? Completely different players.
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Same exact physical tools although Pryor has more speed, same basic long windup in their throwing motion, and the identical body shape and size.

If you wanted to try Pryor at WR I guess I could see it but not in the 3rd round, at QB it's a deadend. Large throwing mechanics are pretty much dead in the NFL. IMHO
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Same exact physical tools although Pryor has more speed, same basic long windup in their throwing motion, and the identical body shape and size.

If you wanted to try Pryor at WR I guess I could see it but not in the 3rd round, at QB it's a deadend. Large throwing mechanics are pretty much dead in the NFL. IMHO
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I don't think their throwing motions look similar at all (other than the fact that both have black arms). Campbell isn't terribly athletic, and Pryor is very athletic. Physically they are built a lot different, as well. They might be close in height and weight, but their bodies are completely different.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VRO4GPU89A[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EulYKdokw48[/youtube]
 
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At the end of the day he is a great athlete but will be limited as a QB. IMHO which is why the Raiders are looking at him at WR. About the only success I have seen at the NFL level for a QB with those skill sets would be Randall Cunningham (maybe Vince Young for a year or two), and he would get killed in today's game. It's a completely different game.

(Pryor + .2 better speed in the 40) - Non-SEC teams = Jordan Jefferson

That stuff is not going to work at the next level, but I hope the best for the kid. I truly have nothing against him, not all of us were born to be NFL QBs.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
At the end of the day he is a great athlete but will be limited as a QB. IMHO which is why the Raiders are looking at him at WR. About the only success I have seen at the NFL level for a QB with those skill sets would be Randall Cunningham (maybe Vince Young for a year or two), and he would get killed in today's game. It's a completely different game.

(Pryor + .2 better speed in the 40) - Non-SEC teams = Jordan Jefferson

That stuff is not going to work at the next level, but I hope the best for the kid. I truly have nothing against him, not all of us were born to be NFL QBs.
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They drafted him to play WR? Link?

I would argue that the reason you don't see a lot of guys like Pryor in the NFL is that there aren't a lot of guys like Pryor. So say for every 25 big-time, stat machine, Caucasian, pocket, college QB, there's 1 NFL success story. Those aren't very good odds. The odds that a guy like Pryor can work might be a hell of a lot higher. We don't really know.

As far as I can tell there have only been 2 other QB's with Pryor's build and athleticism at the QB spot. VY and Cam Newton. It's hard to make a judgment about a player based on past failures when you can only really compare him to 1 past "failure" (who was ROY).
 
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6'5" 230 and runs a 4.5 forty...

Really wish Harbaugh would've taken a chance.
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When he throws (just like I thought with Tebow) I always think "That's just doesn't look like an NFL QB).
 
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nbakerld said:
They drafted him to play WR? Link?
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It was on ESPN I don't know if there is an article on it.

I would argue that the reason you don't see a lot of guys like Pryor in the NFL is that there aren't a lot of guys like Pryor. So say for every 25 big-time, stat machine, Caucasian, pocket, college QB, there's 1 NFL success story. Those aren't very good odds. The odds that a guy like Pryor can work might be a hell of a lot higher. We don't really know.

As far as I can tell there have only been 2 other QB's with Pryor's build and athleticism at the QB spot. VY and Cam Newton. It's hard to make a judgment about a player based on past failures when you can only really compare him to 1 past "failure" (who was ROY).
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I never said they had to be white, actually Michael Vick has the skills to be top notch QB because he has a super quick throw. They generally have to accurate and most important... they have to be quick thrower or it's just a matter of time until the defenses figure it out... ie Vince Young.

In some ways the more athletic you are at QB in the NFL the more it seems to hurt, in general.

To me the top 3 QBs in the NFL are Brady, Manning and Brees... unless the kicker is on the field they are the most nonathletic guys on the field. Actually Brees can somewhat move but he knows he is not there to run the ball.

Just my take, my guess they are going to give him a shot at WR but we will see.
 
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Oakland, where good college quarterbacks go to become washed-up has-beens within 5 years. It's not surprising, though somewhat ironic, that their best player over the last decade has been a Polish kicker.
 
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