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#26
#26
Do rankings really mean anything? Only Duke or Butler will have what everyone really cares about this season.
 
#27
#27
tvolsfan said:
Yeah, our elite eight appearance really factored into our pre sweet sixteen rankings.
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I was resp to your claim that reaching the sweet 16 wasn't special. And I was offering up other accomplishments that you might consider special. D !
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#29
#29
lylsmorr said:
Do rankings really mean anything? Only Duke or Butler will have what everyone really cares about this season.
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I'd say not. No one will remember if we were ranked in the top 10, everyone will remember that we made the Elite Eight (that is, everyone who matters). That said, where we will be in the final poll should be relatively simple to determine.
 
#30
#30
Orangekush423 said:
I was resp to your claim that reaching the sweet 16 wasn't special. And I was offering up other accomplishments that you might consider special. D !
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Making the sweet sixteen with the opponents we faced wasn't great, and it was no reason to rate us highly. I stand by that.
 
#31
#31
tvolsfan said:
Making the sweet sixteen with the opponents we faced wasn't great, and it was no reason to rate us highly. I stand by that.
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Although I agree with you to a degree, don't forget that there were others with just as easy or easier roads into the Sweet Sixteen:

Kentucky (ETSU, Wake)
Duke (Ark-Pine Bluff, Cal)
WVU (Morgan State, Missouri)
Ohio State (UCSB, Georgia Tech)
Butler (UTEP, Murray State)
Baylor (Sam Houston State, ODU)
Syracuse (Vermont, Gonzaga)

Add Tennessee (SDSU, Ohio) and you have EIGHT of the teams getting there by playing teams whose seeds add up to either 24 or 25. If you rate San Diego State highly, then you can easily make an argument that we had the toughest road of the eight (and can make an argument for us over Kansas State, who played North Texas and BYU). Thus, although our road certainly wasn't as fierce as we expected, it's hard to say that more than about half the teams in the Sweet Sixteen had easier paths. Also, two other teams not listed had only to beat a pair of teams whose seeds add up to 25 to make the Sweet Sixteen. These teams (Kansas, Villanova) failed.

West Virginia, interestingly, made it all the way to the Elite Eight without playing a single-digit seed.
 
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#32
#32
Incipient said:
I'd say not. No one will remember if we were ranked in the top 10, everyone will remember that we made the Elite Eight (that is, everyone who matters). That said, where we will be in the final poll should be relatively simple to determine.
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Agreed :good!:
 
#33
#33
tvolsfan said:
Making the sweet sixteen with the opponents we faced wasn't great, and it was no reason to rate us highly. I stand by that.
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Who was faced to get to the Elite 8 won't factor in ranking Kansas St. or Baylor. You beat who is put in front of you
 
#36
#36
Every Elite Eight team finished in the top Eight of the final Coaches Poll last year. FWIW.
 
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#38
#38
TennTom said:
Every Elite Eight team finished in the top Eight of the final Coaches Poll last year. FWIW.
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But you also have to remember that every Elite Eight team last year was a top three seed. And all of the one seeds made the Elite Eight.
 
#39
#39
The season is over for us, rankings at this point are meaningless unless you are number one.
 
#40
#40
Incipient said:
But you also have to remember that every Elite Eight team last year was a top three seed. And all of the one seeds made the Elite Eight.
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While that might be true, I did state FWIW.

In the tourney of 2008, all of the Elite Eight were in the top 9, interestingly enough UT was 7th.
 
#41
#41
bigdaddy said:
I have thought about this since the loss. We are not really loved in the media and polls so I can see us being in the low teens because most of the pundits felt we got an easy road to the 8. I agree it means absolutly nothing but it will be fun to see how it all shakes out. By no means do I think that the Elite 8 are 1-8 in the country.
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Heck, we're not even loved by our own fanbase (supposedly) on this message board. There are lots here who squeal with delight and are quick to agree every time something derogatory is said about the Vols. They also do backflips to avoid agreeing with any positive talk or success stories......"yeah, I hate to agree, but UT sucks and any team in the country could have gotten to the elite eight....really, really HATE to agree that we're bad..."

It's truly amazing to read on a "fans" forum.
 
#42
#42
Orangekush423 said:
Bingo to this and the post above this. Eat that TVFan. LOL (JK)
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He beat what was put in front of him. It doesn't mean he did something impressive. Beating OSU was very impressive, and UT also looked good against MSU. It was great that UT made the sixteen, but getting there included beating a 11 seed (who was under seeded) and a 14 seed.
 
#43
#43
90VOL said:
Rankings mean nothing once the season is over. UT didn't win the national championship bottom line and it was there for the taking.
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As opposed to the rankings for 46 hours in February one year? According to a lot of people on this board mid-season rankings are proof of excellence.
 
#44
#44
tvolsfan said:
He beat what was put in front of him. It doesn't mean he did something impressive. Beating OSU was very impressive, and UT also looked good against MSU. It was great that UT made the sixteen, but getting there included beating a 11 seed (who was under seeded) and a 14 seed.
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At some point it is what it is. We can link almost all teams by a "they beat them, who beat them" mentality. Point is, we beat who we had to beat. To say winning three games in the tourney isn't impressive is to lack a knowledge of the difficulty to win 1 tourney game. Maybe not AS impressive as it wouldve been had we beaten KU, then WVU, then UK in our 3 wins, but IT IS IMPRESSIVE! Nuff Said
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#46
#46
VolDad said:
As opposed to the rankings for 46 hours in February one year? According to a lot of people on this board mid-season rankings are proof of excellence.
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:good!: Bottom line: At the end of the season...346 schools failed, 1 succeeded
 
#49
#49
1 Duke (31) 33-5 775
2 Butler 32-4 739
3 West Virginia 31-6 696
4 Michigan State 28-8 654
5 Kentucky 35-3 650
6 Kansas 33-3 604
7 Kansas State 29-8 573
8 Syracuse 30-5 554
9 Tennessee 28-9 494
10 Baylor 28-8 487
 
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