Recruiting Football Talk VII

[voltn21]

1st quarter total points for the UT/bama game is at 10.5

Tough o/u. What do you think?

Under

 

[rikberry31]

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Let's GO!!!!!!

I was sitting there and was struck by the fact that while the stands were still mostly full the field was completely covered. Found out later security was letting people in the gates.

 

[Volnut]

I thought I would post since it involves Schiano

 

[VolNRaleighNC]

1st quarter total points for the UT/bama game is at 10.5

Tough o/u. What do you think?

Eh, the way both teams have been lighting it up…. Under

 

[engineerVOL]

Jim Harbaugh to the University:

 

[knoxvol52]

1st quarter total points for the UT/bama game is at 10.5

Tough o/u. What do you think?

Under as well maybe a 7-3 game after 1st Quarter...oddsmakers trying to be slick...

 

[knoxvol52]

Just hope Tim Banks keeps playing press coverage....the zone he ran earlier doesn't work well...

 

[VolNRaleighNC]

Under as well maybe a 7-3 game after 1st Quarter...oddsmakers trying to be slick...

I see 6/7 - 3 type of 1st…. It’ll hopefully open up a little more in the 2nd Half.

I say UT wins 31-23

 

[BigSteve09]

1st quarter total points for the UT/bama game is at 10.5

Tough o/u. What do you think?

like others have said, I think 7-3 is the most likely score that quarter. With the new clock rules and both teams feeling each other out, particularly on both lines, just feels like under

 

[Adam2014]

Interesting thread on the offense…

 

[BigSteve09]

Interesting thread on the offense…

please post links to all 10 tweets on here. they've completely ruined X

 

[mr.checkerboards]

please post links to all 10 tweets on here. they've completely ruined X

You are asking way too much, literally click the tweet and scroll. It's not hard.

 

[Adam2014]

please post links to all 10 tweets on here. they've completely ruined X

I refuse to take the time to do that

 

[tnvols72]

Might as well warm it up

 

[BigSteve09]

You are asking way too much, literally click the tweet and scroll. It's not hard.

I refuse to take the time to do that

for whatever reason the link was only showing that 1 tweet. I closed and reopened chrome and it showed the thread finally

for others:

First, the further out you put your receivers, the longer the throws you are demanding of your QB. That requires velocity and accuracy. Hooker was good at both, and particularly accurate deep.

But in games where his deep ball was off (particularly the South Carolina game) suddenly they couldn't hardly complete any passes at all. Milton has the velocity for those longer throws (which keeps DBs from undercutting them), but he really struggles with the accuracy.

Ironically for this week, Heupel runs a great scheme for someone like Milroe. But a guy like Stetson Bennett would really struggle in that offense (as he doesn't have the tools for those long and deep outside throws).

An issue is that you are asking a ton of your OL. The wider the splits, the longer throws take, and the less help you have for edge blitzes. This is why the run game is so important - you have to have a constant threat of the inside run to hold the LBs between the tackles.

If you can't run, the defense has the ability to attack off the edge and can easily overload one side or the other. And if the defense is allowed to play 2-high safety, you have to be more cautious on deep shots or risk INTs, and that cautiousness leads to pressures.

Tennessee has two problems this year. First, Milton is rather inaccurate. Comp% has only dropped about 10% from Hooker, but that's due to higher reliance on screens. Downfield throws have become far less consistent, which is an issue as 2 misses in a row = punt.

Second, Tennessee's OL just isn't as good. Hooker benefited from some elite OT play that gave him far more time than expected from a 5-man protection on a passing team. Without that protection, deep routes aren't as likely to succeed.

Heupel's offense is a great scheme IF you aren't at a talent disadvantage. The one team that put them at a clear disadvantage last year (UGA), destroyed them. But UT's 2022 squad had elite QB, OT, and WR play. 2023 much less so.

UT is a "run team" this year because of how they're played. The goal is 1) keep 2-high safeties outside your own 40 to prevent cheap scores, 2) know that Milton will throw away a possession or two with bad throws, and 3) clamp down on the run when facing a compressed field.

Ironically, there's an argument that Bama could run the offense very well with this year's personnel. But they likely wouldn't want to because it asks so much from the QB, and on a day where your QB (is cold, they lose a winnable game (see SC loss). Bama doesn't want 10-2.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Interesting thread on the offense…

Plenty I don’t agree with and too much effort to spend the time responding to all of it.

I thought point 4/10 was a good observation. That’s about it.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I refuse to take the time to do that

It's an interesting read, that we eat between the 20's and then teams are clamping down to hold us to 3.
I do agree that we are seeing more 2 high to avoid the cheap scores.
Tbh though I still think the bigger issue is we just don't have the talent we did last year.

 

[delfonic]

for whatever reason the link was only showing that 1 tweet. I closed and reopened chrome and it showed the thread finally

for others:

You are a scholar and a gentleman.

 

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[Aesius]

Plenty I don’t agree with and too much effort to spend the time responding to all of it.

It's a lot of words to say, in a roundabout way, that Heupel's offense is a gimmick. Guy makes it sound like it only works when you have a pro-bowl NFL QB, OL, and WRs.

 

[Jackcrevol]

@Weezer , @Glitch , and @InVOLuntary

On Jeopardy.

 

[Vols410]

for whatever reason the link was only showing that 1 tweet. I closed and reopened chrome and it showed the thread finally

for others:

Would argue that Heupel has beaten several teams with a talent advantage on paper (LSU, Florida, Bama, Clemson, A&M), so I dispute the claim that it only works with a talent advantage (or equality).

Even if those are disputable, it’s impossible to argue with the Bama win last year, and they never had a prayer of stopping this offense to the tune of 51 points.

I think that for the most part the offense is still doing it’s thing, but the redzone efficiency has gone to pot (which might just be a luck thing). Saw we were top 15 in eckel ratio (so drives are working and producing points), but our points/eckel (taking advantage of those good drives) is 99th.

Wouldn’t be at all surprised if some of that luck reversed and this looks like a Heupel offense again shortly.

 

[RudyVol]

Plenty I don’t agree with and too much effort to spend the time responding to all of it.

I liked the line about Georgia destroying us and it doesn't work when we're at a talent disadvantage. We gave them one of their tougher games but hey genius...they destroyed just about everyone, look at the national championship.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I liked the line about Georgia destroying us and it doesn't work when we're at a talent disadvantage. We gave them one of their tougher games but hey genius...they destroyed just about everyone, look at the national championship.

Georgia may get us, but it wont be without a fight.

This one is at home, and reminds me of the year they came up here, 07 I think. And we beat their faces in.

 

[engineerVOL]

I refuse to take the time to do that