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Bill Belichick is 85-102 without Tom Brady.

1. That isn't a very good record.
2. That isn't a small sample size.

He's a good defensive coach and an awful GM. That's what it is. This "Patriot way" myth isn't real. The Patriot way is having Tom Brady as your QB and losing a ton of games otherwise.
 
Bill Belichick is 85-102 without Tom Brady.

1. That isn't a very good record.
2. That isn't a small sample size.

He's a good defensive coach and an awful GM. That's what it is. This "Patriot way" myth isn't real. The Patriot way is having Tom Brady as your QB and losing a ton of games otherwise.
The patriot way was Tom Brady with a top 5 defense every year essentially, which the bucs also had
 
Bill Belichick is 85-102 without Tom Brady.

1. That isn't a very good record.
2. That isn't a small sample size.

He's a good defensive coach and an awful GM. That's what it is. This "Patriot way" myth isn't real. The Patriot way is having Tom Brady as your QB and losing a ton of games otherwise.
Lol

Total nonsense

You wanna male that same argument for Chuck Noll, Bill Walsh, Tom Landry and Vince Lomnardi too? They all had great quarterbacks and were littered with hall of famers?
 
The patriot way was Tom Brady with a top 5 defense every year essentially, which the bucs also had
The Bucs were bringing back the number one defense in the NFL and an offense that had put up over 5k in the air the previous year

Then they added Leonard Fournette and Gronk

But yeah "it's all Tom!"
 
Man Cowboys fans have to be pissed. They had 37 first downs to GB 22. They out gained GB by almost 100 yards and won the TOP. Yet lost by 2 TDs to a Jordan Love led Packers. Ouch.
 
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The Bucs were bringing back the number one defense in the NFL and an offense that had put up over 5k in the air the previous year

Then they added Leonard Fournette and Gronk

But yeah "it's all Tom!"
If you look at the vast majority of the Super Bowl wins Brady participated in, the defenses he had had all time great performances. Anyone claiming the Pats SBs were mostly because of Brady are just wrong.
 
Jerry: “****, it. I’ll do this myself.”

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