Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Weezer]

Once they become professionals…All bets are off

I actually pull for Ja and the Grizz.

Yeah, but you cheer for that team that plays dirty.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Also, less than half of 2 point tries are successful, so I'm not sure how the analytics conclude you should go for 2.

Especially when your run game is literally the worst in the NFL 2 years in a row.

That is a great point. If you are a great short yardage team, that converts short yardage situations, then YOUR data should be the only one that matters when deciding what to do.

If you are one of the worst teams in the NFL at converting those, then your avg is not going to match league wide analytic data.

That seems like the rational thing...also you have to take things like your best players being available and not injured....the data won't know that...but you do.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

When you go against the Vols, I get judgy, Sally. When did you replace the real Enki?

Chiefs are Mizzou's team. Didnt realize you're a Drinkwitz fanboy now.

 

[Jackcrevol]

How did you know she made that image? Looks pretty real to me. . .

I thought it was closer to goal line, and a traditional I Form.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Barf

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I thought it was closer to goal line, and a traditional I Form.

Probably did that too

 

[CAVPUT]

Once they become professionals…I don't care anymore.

FYP

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Yeah but fans are dumb. That’s a silly bad faith argument. Restaurant workers get paid to perform their job. Should we talk sh*t to them when they have a bad day? And then talk more sh*t to them when they ask why we’re being the way we’re being? Tell them to suck it up and get over it bc they’re being paid.

I don’t mean that towards you, I know you’re not arguing for it.

When I get an ******* server, who often act entitled and act like pure heads themselves...I generally just get up and leave or ask for another server. I have never started an argument with them.

If I'm paying for an expensive meal, then I sure as hell shouldn't have to, and absolutely will not put up with some little puke having "a bad day"...why the hell would you take the side of a jerk not doing their job?

 

[OrangenSC]

I’ve always been confused as to how a grown human can’t swim? Especially someone so physically gifted. At least enough to tread water and get to a shoreline a reasonable distance away.

I'm 66 and don't know how to swim. Didn't grow up around water. It gets harder learn as you get older; I've taken lessons twice. No luck.

Being physically gifted has nothing to do with it. And being muscular, having little fat, makes it harder to float

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Dunlap trying to become the first amateur to win on the PGA Tour since Mickelson in 1991. Tied with Sam Burns at 29-under par with 2 holes to play.

Out of the same club I was a member of when I lived in the southern Tennessee Valley.

 

[SugarCC]

I’m curious how old you are. I followed Manning’s recruitment closely. This source-less opinion isn’t accurate.

However, it is true that there was a variable that kept him from going to Ole Miss. Had Cooper not had to quit football, he’d have attended Ole Miss so they could play together. That’s been stated by the Mannings.

If Cooper doesn't get hurt, Manning would have been a Rebel. Cut and dry, no questions asked, don't pass go...
Nowhere else would have had a chance.

As far as an investigation/sanctions for Ole Miss go, I have NEVER seen Peyton even mention it, talk about it, whisper about it...nothing, as it pertained to his decision. I'm not saying he's never said it or alluded to it, all I'm saying is I have NEVER heard him, or seen him quoted in an article saying it; and, I, too, followed his recruitment with a magnifying glass. ALWAYS, has he said, as to the reasons he picked UT were: the people, and he "could see himself fitting in, even if he didn't play football". This is what he's always talked about; and, he's been asked about it a million times over the years.

The Bleacher Report article isn't quoting him...it's their own opinion. Again, neither Peyton, or any other Manning, has ever said that...that I have ever seen or heard.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

No, I’m definitely not. Hate it when it is done on here. Especially hate it on social media. But afraid the mentality will be if you want to be a professional you will be expected to perform like a professional. Dread it

I don't like idiots booing our team either. And I don't like idiots picking fights online with our current players...I was just pointing out a reason why the idiots act like they do.

 

[Vfl2407]

Chiefs are Mizzou's team. Didnt realize you're a Drinkwitz fanboy now.

Also Kansas, Iowa, And Nebraska.

 

[Weezer]

Chiefs are Mizzou's team. Didnt realize you're a Drinkwitz fanboy now.

Poor deflection, Sally. The Chiefs have a VFL. The Bills do not. Analytics.

 

[Vol423]

Ohhh I do.

I figured you would, but you played golf in college.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

I'm 66 and don't know how to swim. Didn't grow up around water. It gets harder learn as you get older; I've taken lessons twice. No luck.

Being physically gifted has nothing to do with it. And being muscular, having little fat, makes it harder to float

So what happens if you fall in? Do you just sink? Doggy paddling is nothing but flapping your arms and kicking your legs.

 

[Weezer]

I'm 66 and don't know how to swim. Didn't grow up around water. It gets harder learn as you get older; I've taken lessons twice. No luck.

Being physically gifted has nothing to do with it. And being muscular, having little fat, makes it harder to float

Stay away from all these Bills supporters. They'll push you into the deep end.

 

[rgvol]

David Cutcliffe had a big part in Peyton coming to Knoxville also. Let's be honest....

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Probability in the NFL for a 2 point conversion is 55%. So, if you miss, you should get the next one to tie. If you make, you kick the XP to win. Vrabel did it a couple of years ago, and I’m pretty sure they won the game.

But that is a league wide stat...55%. Some teams avg converting short yardage is way higher than that, some teams avg is going to be way lower...a HC should know to take that into account.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

And having Henry as your RB definitely changes things. Analytics should take into account the horrendous run game of the bucs.

Exactly

 

[Weezer]

Apparently, the refs are pulling for the Bills as well. They must know there's a VFL on the Chiefs.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Ya. I just think using league wide stats for specific teams with different strengths and weaknesses is a bad use of stats.

I agree...that seems to not even be debatable logic.

 

[BearCat204]

Probability in the NFL for a 2 point conversion is 55%. So, if you miss, you should get the next one to tie. If you make, you kick the XP to win. Vrabel did it a couple of years ago, and I’m pretty sure they won the game.

Not to mention you are on the road.....in the playoffs.....and you are more than likely going to want to go for two at the end of the game anyway if you score again. Dont have a problem at all with going for the 2 and would have worked out if the DPI would have been called.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

While I completely agree that it takes an absolute dirtbag jackwagon to tweet bullsh!t upon bullsh!t at someone, or shout and scream out their lungs at someone...these guys like Haddon and Mincey better learn, and learn it quick, they're not waiting tables...this comes with the territory of being an athlete, and playing in front of 100,000 people...in front of 100,000 fans = fanatics.

Of course, no...in no way, shape or form, does it justify acting like a dipsh!t toward them, or anybody; but, this is the way the sporting world goes. Also, athletes like Haddon better learn, especially if he wants to continue playing...tweeting back at azzholes is only going to make it worse. Azzholes are going to azzhole, period...have to rise above it some way, some how. What if he's drafted by the Giants or Jets, or by Philly? He thinks Volnation was on his ass...he'll need a permanent, traveling therapist for that mania.

This is how I feel also

 

[peaygolf]

I figured you would, but you played golf in college.

Meaning…..I don’t root for any pro golfer that went to the same schools I dislike in football (Bama, UF, or Mu**y St…..if Mu**ay ever had one good enough to make it)

Admittedly, it’s hard to not like JT, but …..and what this kid did today is insane. Utmost respect for this guy.