Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Adam Sandler]

I don’t know if it has been discussed here but Adam Sparks was on Basilio yesterday. He said that we shouldn’t be surprised if we wake up and find that the NCAA has suspended Nico. It will likely be their next move. Then he said that we shouldn’t be surprised to see Tennessee give them the double Gaulden’s and play him anyway.

F’ Em

 

[Jackcrevol]

While all your points above I believe are valid, just so people aren’t confused, the suit brought by TN and VA is just an anti-trust suit. It’s argument is that, for antitrust purposes, the NCAA is not permitted to sanction NIL for current student athletes, but restrict it for prospective student athletes (or current student athletes looking to transfer).

non fiducia.

 

[Orange_Crush]

While all your points above I believe are valid, just so people aren’t confused, the suit brought by TN and VA is just an anti-trust suit. It’s argument is that, for antitrust purposes, the NCAA is not permitted to sanction NIL for current student athletes, but restrict it for prospective student athletes (or current student athletes looking to transfer).

Also:

Nico plane ride == impermissible recruiting: Spyre on record denying.
Spyre deal == recruiting to Tennessee: Spyre has contract verbiage to refute.

 

[DD4ME]

VQ podcast today advising a whole whole lot of patience on this process. I am sure everyone is strapped in, but this may be a long ride.

 

[AllVol11717]

I think they thought we would be an easy payday and would facilitate them trying to look powerful. They miscalculated our wilingness to throw our own program under the bus.

They mistook our past compliance as a sign of complacency. They were wrong. It’s the desperate attempt of a fading despotic power.

Good on Plowman and the other university leaders that didn’t hesitate to stand up against this farce.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I don’t know if it has been discussed here but Adam Sparks was on Basilio yesterday. He said that we shouldn’t be surprised if we wake up and find that the NCAA has suspended Nico. It will likely be their next move. Then he said that we shouldn’t be surprised to see Tennessee give them the double Gaulden’s and play him anyway.

As we should.

 

[Glitch]

we are about to bend the ncaa over

And make them pay for our lawyers to add insult to injury.

 

[BigOrange15]

I don’t know if it has been discussed here but Adam Sparks was on Basilio yesterday. He said that we shouldn’t be surprised if we wake up and find that the NCAA has suspended Nico. It will likely be their next move. Then he said that we shouldn’t be surprised to see Tennessee give them the double Gaulden’s and play him anyway.

For sure, and we absolutely must refuse to do it.

Then Nico and his reps can jump into the lawsuit and sue the **** out of them.

 

[Vols4us]

I don’t know if it has been discussed here but Adam Sparks was on Basilio yesterday. He said that we shouldn’t be surprised if we wake up and find that the NCAA has suspended Nico. It will likely be their next move. Then he said that we shouldn’t be surprised to see Tennessee give them the double Gaulden’s and play him anyway.

I could see that, but I believe the restraining order will happen on Feb. 7 as the TN AG said on Outkick.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I don’t know if it has been discussed here but Adam Sparks was on Basilio yesterday. He said that we shouldn’t be surprised if we wake up and find that the NCAA has suspended Nico. It will likely be their next move. Then he said that we shouldn’t be surprised to see Tennessee give them the double Gaulden’s and play him anyway.

Its a matter of when, not if.

This is literally a HS chess player versus the AI defending world champ.

I just cannot see a circumstance where an impartial judge, can opine against student athletes, after the precedent of protecting their rights was set by the courts.

 

[SugarCC]

February 1, 2004
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Timberlake stood beside Jackson stoically, while Jackson hastily covered herself with her left hand. The camera went wide, fireworks were released and pandemonium ensued.

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And, with it, the birth of YouTube...or, at least that's what one of the dudes who created it says.

 

[Kristy*]

I don’t know if it has been discussed here but Adam Sparks was on Basilio yesterday. He said that we shouldn’t be surprised if we wake up and find that the NCAA has suspended Nico. It will likely be their next move. Then he said that we shouldn’t be surprised to see Tennessee give them the double Gaulden’s and play him anyway.

Suspending one of the game's biggest rising stars to try to make a point over something like this would be a terrible look.

From Chancellor Plowman's letter, "This is morally wrong and undermines the credibility of the NCAA's stated interest of acting in the best interest of student-athletes."

 

[Kristy*]

Welcome back. Haven’t seen you around in a while.

Thanks. I've been lurking, just not posting as much.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Its a matter of when, not if.

This is literally a HS chess player versus the AI defending world champ.

I just cannot see a circumstance where an impartial judge, can opine against student athletes, after the precedent of protecting their rights was set by the courts.

Judges do all kinds of nonsense, but has the NCAA won anything in court in recent memory? I mean, that statement they put out sounded more like a lament for days-gone-by than a confident defense.

 

[Kurtastrophe]

It may be a long process, but as soon as the injunction is in place, there isn't anything they can actually do to us until the case is over. And they are going to lose the case.

 

[DD4ME]

Great video on the topic in general. Includes David Ubben in case you have an opinion on him way or the other.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I could see that, but I believe the restraining order will happen on Feb. 7 as the TN AG said on Outkick.

This. He's expecting a quick response, and if it's a positive one it will prevent the NCAA from enforcing NIL rules.

He also said that he expects a long, protracted fight and that it may go to the SCOTUS (almost sounds like he savors the thought), so said not to be surprised if this lasts a few years. Would that be a few years under the restraining order, where NCAA has been made toothless? Not sure they'd survive that.

At the very least, it'd see Nico in the NFL before the NCAA got around to his college eligibility.

 

[Brillovol]

I think to me the boiled down version, if I understand the deets.

Punishing my dog for eating the Cat Food two years after it happens, is confusing as hell.

We did what we thought was right according to our lawyers, at that time. You cannot modify the rules of a sport and retroactively enforce them.

If they're saying we broke impermissible benefits. We can easily show singling out, a history of cooperation, self implemented punishments, and absolute helter skelter enforcement.

This is NOTHING short of an example being made of the one school that cooperated. We ARE being punished for cooperating and because the NCAA is so inconceivably bad at their jobs, they try to show their teeth to only those that play ball.

It is my sincere hope that courts look at the body of our compliance, and look at the NCAA as the near defunct organization it is. NCAA is more concerned with itself, and us have our kids' best interests ahead of our own.

This is about retribution for not getting the desired sentence previously, about its incompetence in not seeing NIL & doing anything about it, and setting an example to others. Its a witchhunt, and we are the bait.

Tennessee has made this rightly about the SA, and less about them. That is their ace.

The irony of this whole case: the NCAA is the one with the lack of institutional control.

 

[peaygolf]

And, with it, the birth of YouTube...or, at least that's what one of the dudes who created it says.

Screw JT even more for "inventing" YouTube

 

[Glitch]

Mincey is really leaning into the ex-spouse role with zeal and vigor. Can't wait to watch Pearce and Josephs abuse him all game long.

 

[Glitch]

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Morons don't understand that State laws and the lack of meaningful fair-minded rules from the NCAA left NIL wide open like the wild west. In the vacuum of leadership vacated by the AA, states stepped in and made their own rules. AA about to get curb stomped by the states and probably SCOTUS as well.

 

[Orange_Crush]

VN cleanup bot on aisle 4131. Make it quick(er than the NSA web crawler bot) please.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Morons don't understand that State laws and the lack of meaningful fair-minded rules from the NCAA left NIL wide open like the wild west. In the vacuum of leadership vacated by the AA, states stepped in and made their own rules. AA about to get curb stomped by the states and probably SCOTUS as well.

Yah. 'AA was scared to death to do anything after the response they got from SCOTUS. Not sure what makes them so bold now. It's like they have a death wish.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Is there anything better than seeing two drunk people fight at McDonalds at 4am?





The answer is "no".

Burger King is pretty good.

 

[Brillovol]

Screw JT even more for "inventing" YouTube

Hey now. Without YouTube, I wouldn't have so easily known how to repair my car, the microwave, the washing machine, the shower diverter, and much, much more.