Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[peaygolf]

i'm over pre madonnas, once again we'll have a top 15 class along with a playoff team. ol recruiting is suspect.

A Head Coach told me, “Wide hips. Big A$$.. That’s what I want on the OL”

Need to recruit those big “corn fed” farm boys from the mid west……screw the star rating.

 

[Jimmy Football]

How many windows would you break????

All of them except the second-floor window directly in front of the mat.

 

[tnhunter 10]

So many questions.

 

[GoodTimeVol]

I dont trust our coaches to get the right OL players in the portal, the players we got far havent been ideal:

-Mincey (locker room cancer)
-Karic (mid, injury prone as well)
-Campbell (arthritis in his knees, we pursued despite this, cant play a majority of the game)
-Heard (Diva, slow, cant pass block worth a dang)

Being contempt with keeping Elarbee just because we are winning is honestly a loser mindset. It’s like if you have a leak in the roof of your house, but you don’t fix it because it hasn’t seeped thru the ceiling yet. Eventually though, the lack of fixing the leak ends up damaging the ceiling and getting flood damage and mold in your house.

Nobody is content with Elarbee…

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I dont trust our coaches to get the right OL players in the portal, the players we got far havent been ideal:

-Mincey (locker room cancer)
-Karic (mid, injury prone as well)
-Campbell (arthritis in his knees, we pursued despite this, cant play a majority of the game)
-Heard (Diva, slow, cant pass block worth a dang)

Karic has played better this year. Heard has gotten much better and will be elite next year. How do you know the arthritis in Campbells knees was known by the coaches? Also, Mincey was decent while he was here.

We will be fine.

 

[mrMet]

Karic has played better this year. Heard has gotten much better and will be elite next year. How do you know the arthritis in Campbells knees was known by the coaches? Also, Mincey was decent while he was here.

We will be fine.

Who are you over here being rational?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Dude. Heard is very good.

Campbell has been a gamer.

that said. OL receruiting hasnt been good.

The OL recruiting has absolutely been good. Elite? No. Good? Yes. Sorry but you don’t put up the rushing numbers we do without good OL play. You cannot put all the success of our run game to RBs and scheme. The OL deserves credit. I personally don’t care what the king guy says. Our rushing numbers prove his ridiculous assertion that Elarbee can’t recruit as wrong.

 

[WesTnVol]

Agree A&M's only route is the bye.

But I think a 3 loss SEC team will have a shot to get in at this point. I just don't know who else is going to fill in the remaining spots, especially if any more madness occurs.

Assume for a moment all the highest rated teams, as of now, win their conference for simplicity's sake:

1) Oregon
2) TX
3) Miami
4) Boise St
Gtd 5th champion - Arizona St

In no particular order:
UGA
UT
PSU
ND
OSU
IU

I could see a logjam for the last spot such as:

- SMU (or would a bad ACC championship loss knock them down?)

- Clemson v USCjr winner

- OM - closer losses than Bama, much more dominant wins over UGA and USCjr

- Bama - just got wrecked by OU, but they have 3-4 wins as good as anyone in the country


And this is all assuming ND, PSU, UGA, OSU, etc. win this weekend. If UGA lost in Atlanta to TX, they'd surely stay in too with 3 losses, barring an injury to Beck or just a downright embarrassing loss.

Totally agree with 3 lost UGA. Skanky has said they want to protect SECCG loser and he could sell 3 lose UGA. To be fair big10 wants the same for their conference championship game loser.
BUT trying to slip a 3 lost SEC team in over other 2 lost teams
I’m here with my popcorn

 

[Devo182]

I think as long as Miami and SMU go into the championship with 1 loss each both teams will make the playoffs.

Let's hope

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

The OL recruiting has absolutely been good. Elite? No. Good? Yes. Sorry but you don’t put up the rushing numbers we do without good OL play. You cannot put all the success of our run game to RBs and scheme. The OL deserves credit. I personally don’t care what the king guy says. Our rushing numbers prove his ridiculous assertion that Elarbee can’t recruit as wrong.

Your final sentence doesn’t make sense. Recruiting has had zero to do with rushing numbers. He’s playing four Pruitt holdovers and two transfers. His high school recruiting has produced zero contributors to this point. That’s a huge red flag at this point.

I do agree that scheme doesn’t have everything to do with the run game success. Elarbee’s group has had something to do with that. I

 

[drvenner]

I dont trust our coaches to get the right OL players in the portal, the players we got far havent been ideal:

-Mincey (locker room cancer)
-Karic (mid, injury prone as well)
-Campbell (arthritis in his knees, we pursued despite this, cant play a majority of the game)
-Heard (Diva, slow, cant pass block worth a dang)

Whew, man. I really wish we had you on our staff. Cutting analysis right there.

 

[drvenner]

Being contempt with keeping Elarbee just because we are winning is honestly a loser mindset. It’s like if you have a leak in the roof of your house, but you don’t fix it because it hasn’t seeped thru the ceiling yet. Eventually though, the lack of fixing the leak ends up damaging the ceiling and getting flood damage and mold in your house.

I hold you in contempt.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Lol

Vibe.....


and


The ones watching the CFP bus drive by.......

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[SoilVol]

Pretty evident, and has been hinted as such, that professional agents are getting to high school recruits.

We're two weeks from signing and professional agents are pushing top recruits nationwide to put pressure on the schools they've committed to in attempts to leverage $$$ guarantees and contract details. You're seeing guys nationwide who were firmly committed take last minute visits and stress everyone out. Some agents are going to actually get guys flipped because of this.

On one hand I get it. The players should be able to have professional representation and guidance. On the other hand it's an absolute nuisance.

 

[peaygolf]

Pretty evident, and has been hinted as such, that professional agents are getting to high school recruits.

We're two weeks from signing and professional agents are pushing top recruits nationwide to put pressure on the schools they've committed to in attempts to leverage $$$ guarantees and contract details. You're seeing guys nationwide who were firmly committed take last minute visits and stress everyone out. Some agents are going to actually get guys flipped because of this.

On one hand I get it. The players should be able to have professional representation and guidance. On the other hand it's an absolute nuisance.

This isn’t what NIL was supposed to be.

Can’t wait for a donor to tear up a contract because of crappy play.

 

[Ace]

Why should South Carolina get any consideration when they lost to 3 teams that will not make the playoffs? Facts

 

[Devo182]

I hold you in contempt.

 

[The Dog]

Mushrooms > weed

No, sir and to prove it, I'm going to smoke one, right now

 

[mrMet]

No, sir and to prove it, I'm going to smoke one, right now

Weed is good for daily/regular use. Overall experience though, I stand by my comment lol

 

[delfonic]

We are allowing our perception of OL play to cloud the reality. The reality is that we are at the top of the mountain and looking down. To what extent there are better offensive lines in college football there are maybe 5-10. Our guys are putting in work. You don’t make it through SEC without DL pressure… those guys are too big and fast. If you could make it through an SEC conference schedule without your QB being under pressure, it would cease being the SEC and become the BIG 10.

 

[Devo182]

Why should South Carolina get any consideration when they lost to 3 teams that will not make the playoffs? Facts

They'd have 3 ranked wins.

That's more than Penn St and the entire schedule of teams they've beaten have...combined. Same goes for IU. SMU has 0 ranked wins.

You also end up in weird circular reasoning. If USCjr doesn't get the last spot...then does Ole Miss? Bama? But they are a part of the reasoning to keep USCjr out...

 

[Devo182]

We are allowing our perception of OL play to cloud the reality. The reality is that we are at the top of the mountain and looking down. To what extent there are better offensive lines in college football there are maybe 5-10. Our guys are putting in work. You don’t make it through SEC without DL pressure… those guys are too big and fast. If you could make it through an SEC conference schedule without your QB being under pressure, it would cease being the SEC and become the BIG 10.

They just said yesterday we are finalists for the best OL in cfb...for the 3rd straight year


People are nuts expecting perfection. Dear god. UGA got RANSACKED by Ole Miss. Look at Alabama. And they have nothing but bluechips, everywhere.

All Elbarbee has done is put out stud OL units each year. Folks are ridiculous and clearly don't pay attention to other teams.

 

[Vols4us]

Am I wrong? The reason we lost to uga was they have better players across the board compared to us

So that tells us that the reason UGA lost to Bama and Ole Miss is because they have better players across the board than UGA, which make Bama in this case better than us even though we beat them, as did Vandy and UF.

See how that works?