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#113,452
JacketVol said:
We won 10 games. He’s not perfect but he’s on our best run since late 90’s averaging 10 wins per year. He was not stubborn like Butch and adjusted his baby O to WIN games. That’s a great coaching job and yes he can improve. I’m ecstatic with where things are going. JUST WIN BABY and he is.
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I agree with everything except "he adjusted his O to win games." I think the opposite. I think he did a poor job adjusting his O, and that's why we lost the games we did and played so poorly on offense against decent teams.

Whatever adjustments he made on O didn't seem to work very well. Luckily his defense carried him through the bad offense, which is why we were in the playoffs despite the bad offense.
 
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SSVol said:
Don't overthink it. The buck stops with the head coach. He is the guy ultimately responsible for every aspect of the team's performance, even though the fault for poor performance could be a plethora things he has no direct control of. Either way, "responsible" also means it is his job to ensure that it gets fixed.

Clearly the offense wasn't up to Heupel standards and he would be the first guy to admit that. I do not believe that the poor state of the passing game was due to him forgetting how to coach ball, nor do I think it was due to negligence on his part, it's just that a few things didn't work out as planned. It happens. The measure of the man will be what he does about it.
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It could be as simple as he had a young quarterback that was having trouble reading defenses and processing what he was seeing quick enough. He definitely had receivers wide open against Arkansas and some bad throws and bad drops lost that game. It seemed to me like that was the point when he decided to ride Sampson and the running game. It did end up getting us in the playoffs so hard to say it was bad strategy. It’s also playing into the strength of a team with a top tier defense. There is literally no logical reason to believe that Heupel has forgotten how to coach offense at an elite level. He’s done it for too long at an elite level. Two years ago the narrative was he was a one trick pony and played to fast thereby exposing his defense. This year he literally did the exact opposite and slowed down, ran the ball and relied on his defense and suddenly he can’t coach offense and his system sucks. I see a coach that adapted to win. Many coaches are a slave too the system and end up losing games out of ego and stubbornness. I continue to think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
 
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Batman1948 said:
The only country, in the world, who will always take an eye for an eye is Israel. I've always thought the good ole USA should follow this same principle, but we have too many bleeding-heart-----never mind
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Yes it's done so much good for them. They're only at constant war...one of the very few (along with their enemies). Being the only country that takes on this philosophy, yet is one of the very few countries at constant war is very telling.

It's how gangs operate. And they are never not at war with each other because the reciprocation is endless. And no side will ever admit to being the initial aggressor...and there's always a story to tell.

An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
 
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At some point you gotta say our press isn't working today and get back in half court. 70% of OK points are off breaking the press and having wide open layups... it doesn't help you have 2-3 ppl running after the ball trying to trap either. It'd be alright if they was fast enough to rotate back but some of em are slower than molasses.. LSU will rip apart the press Thursday as well
 
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VolXr1 said:
At some point you gotta say our press isn't working today and get back in half court. 70% of OK points are off breaking the press and having wide open layups... it doesn't help you have 2-3 ppl running after the ball trying to trap either. It'd be alright if they was fast enough to rotate back but some of em are slower than molasses.. LSU will rip apart the press Thursday as well
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Much earlier in the game, yes I agree.


At this point I'd say we need variance unless we can cut into the lead greatly.
 
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Draft Ward or Hunter

OR (my preference)

Trade the #1 pick to the Giants for the Giants' 2024 1st and 2025 1st. Or '24 1st and 2nd.

In all reality, if you trade the #1 to NY and drop to 3, there's still a significant chance to get Hunter because the Giants will get Sanders and the Browns will likely get Ward.

Your threat to the Giants to make the trade is that you're gonna draft Ward, leaving the Browns to draft Sanders. So the Giants need to trade.

You could also then trade the #3 pick again and continue stacking 24 and 25 draft picks.
 
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VolXr1 said:
At some point you gotta say our press isn't working today and get back in half court. 70% of OK points are off breaking the press and having wide open layups... it doesn't help you have 2-3 ppl running after the ball trying to trap either. It'd be alright if they was fast enough to rotate back but some of em are slower than molasses.. LSU will rip apart the press Thursday as well
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Nah it’s Y1. Set the expectation for how you want them to play moving forward. Establish that identity.
 
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SoilVol said:
Draft Ward or Hunter

OR (my preference)

Trade the #1 pick to the Giants for the Giants' 2024 1st and 2025 1st. Or '24 1st and 2nd.

In all reality, if you trade the #1 to NY and drop to 3, there's still a significant chance to get Hunter because the Giants will get Sanders and the Browns will likely get Ward.

Your threat to the Giants to make the trade is that you're gonna draft Ward, leaving the Browns to draft Sanders. So the Giants need to trade.

You could also then trade the #3 pick again and continue stacking 24 and 25 draft picks.
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Why would we want Hunter? Sorry, just not impressed with him. I think the hype is more than what’s actually there.
 
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