Recruiting Football Talk VIII

Like I said. BEFORE lebron first got hurt, when they were healthy. You expected a 35 year old to comeback from an injury towards the end of the season and lead his team to the playoffs with the injuries they had? Are you mentally ok?

Excuses excuses. If you're on the court you'll be judged like everyone else. So if they made the playoffs that year after LeBron said he was activating "playoff mode" would he have gotten credit for leading the Lakers to the playoffs? Or does the injury excuse only save you from embarrassment but doesn't take away from success? Either your play on the court matters or it doesn't. You can't build in excuses if you happen to fail.
 
6 games with 7.7 ppg shooting on 38.7% FG = dominating

Never mind that in 4 of the 6 games he scored a combined 13 points...

For those that don't have epic D4H eyes... OKC lost said series 4-2 and Kobe (who got dominated) scored 23.5 ppg, 4 rpg, 4.3 apg...same Lakers team that eventually won the NBA championship.

The best part, that series was all about how good Westbrook played. He went for 20.5 ppg, 6 rpg, 6 apg shot 47.3% FG and 41.7% from deep. I actually watched a ton of those Thunder teams, that was one of the best young teams I've seen in awhile.

You fool I was talking about the 2012 series when OKC beat the Lakers 4-1. Not 2010 when they lost to the Lakers.
 
You fool I was talking about the 2012 series when OKC beat the Lakers 4-1. Not 2010 when they lost to the Lakers.
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LeBron's greatest strength isn't his statistics; it's his versatility. Neither Jordon's strength (his killer instinct) or LeBron's strength (his versatility via his athleticism) show up in box scores. It is just a matter of whether you value the former or the latter more.

LeBron's not versatile. He plays the same style. Point forward. 1-4 pick n roll. Shooters spacing the floor for his drives. You're confusing filling up the box score with versatility. LeBron is not a great post player. He's not good from the mid-range. He isn't a great ball handler with killer dribble moves. He's literally putting his head down and driving to the rim with power every play. In many ways he's the perimeter version of Shaq. Power and strength with little in skillful moves and grace.

Kevin Durant is a versatile player. He can do what LeBron does but he can also play like Kobe if he needs to. Or he can play like Ray Allen. He's great with the ball and without. He can drive. Shoot midrange. And the 3ball.
 
That’s conveniently subjective

Not really. Most people generally feel the same after big games. We know who played well who didn't. We know plays changed the game. Sure there will be hot take artists who are trying to get attention. The problem is people have short attention spans so they'll forget what happened the last game as soon as the next game ends. Stats then become a crutch for people who can't divorce themselves from the presentism bias. I'm able to not forgot what I last saw and letting present day bias or stats clouding my judgment.
 
LeBron's not versatile. He plays the same style. Point forward. 1-4 pick n roll. Shooters spacing the floor for his drives. You're confusing filling up the box score with versatility. LeBron is not a great post player. He's not good from the mid-range. He isn't a great ball handler with killer dribble moves. He's literally putting his head down and driving to the rim with power every play. In many ways he's the perimeter version of Shaq. Power and strength with little in skillful moves and grace.

Kevin Durant is a versatile player. He can do what LeBron does but he can also play like Kobe if he needs to. Or he can play like Ray Allen. He's great with the ball and without. He can drive. Shoot midrange. And the 3ball.
Guess you need to be taken to school yet again.

Points: LBJ (27), KD (27)
FG%- LBJ (51), KD (50)
Minutes- LBJ (38), KD (37)
3pt %- LBJ (35), KD (39)
Rebounds- LBJ (7.5), KD (7)
Steals- LBJ (1.5), KD (1.1)
Assists- LBJ (7.4), (4.4)

LeBron is the better shooter, plays more minutes, is the better passer and defender. KD is the better 3pt shooter. But KD isn’t a leader. He went to GS but Curry was already well established. Had KD never went to GS, he would have zero championships.
 
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