Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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Jackcrevol said:
Michigan has a title within last 10 years, as does an OSU. Chances are we are behind them. Also, their TV viewing areas are more densely populated.
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Michigan isn't among the elites currently in NIL. Their recruiting doesn't reflect that whatsoever, either in HS or the portal. And this is despite a recent national title.
 
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Jimmy Football said:
This is somewhat in contradiction to reports that we’re about to have one of the most expensive basketball rosters in the country (provided we land who we’re targeting).

It would be strange if our booster base was willing to pay for a basketball roster but not football. Now is Heup and crew going to the same lengths as Barnes to solicit the funds? That’s an open question, I think.
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We are also in a unique situation where our two (really 3 but not sure how much NIL is spent on baseball) big sports have recently played at elite levels, and we’ve spent big money on both. What other schools are in that class? Alabama, maybe Auburn without results, Michigan (but football wasn’t good), Oregon. Ohio State isn’t even good in basketball.
 
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Carp said:
I find that extremely hard to believe. Ohio State and Oregon for sure are better, but they are probably 1 and 2 in the nation anyways. But from all reports, that's about it for the big spenders in the Big 10. Michigan isn't spending huge amounts. Neither is Penn State. An dyou constantly hear about other Big 10 programs not being able to compete with the Top Programs in NIL. You mean to tell me that Illinois, Iowa, and Indiana have NIL programs on par with Tennessee? GTFOH.
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I hope that is right. Several of those Big 10 teams have massive alumni bases and Michigan does have some wealthy donors. Not sure about our 'wealthy donors'. Do we still have a heavy reliance on Pilot?
 
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Carp said:
I find that extremely hard to believe. Ohio State and Oregon for sure are better, but they are probably 1 and 2 in the nation anyways. But from all reports, that's about it for the big spenders in the Big 10. Michigan isn't spending huge amounts. Neither is Penn State. An dyou constantly hear about other Big 10 programs not being able to compete with the Top Programs in NIL. You mean to tell me that Illinois, Iowa, and Indiana have NIL programs on par with Tennessee? GTFOH.
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Michigan is absolutely spending huge amounts now
 
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VolsFan-TX said:
I agree. The article below places TN at 14th nationally in donor money. Only Oregon and OSU from the Big 10 are ahead of us.

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That list is also not super relevant in terms of NIL value. That's only in reference to donations to the athletic program. Virginia, for example, does not have a strong NIL collective. But they are one the most elite Public universities in the country that received a lot of university donations.
 
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Jimmy Football said:
This is somewhat in contradiction to reports that we’re about to have one of the most expensive basketball rosters in the country (provided we land who we’re targeting).

It would be strange if our booster base was willing to pay for a basketball roster but not football. Now is Heup and crew going to the same lengths as Barnes to solicit the funds? That’s an open question, I think.
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Maybe one last hurrah for Barnes. Could be one last big spend before revenue split hits. And that day will not be good for those of us who are fans of the other two of the big 3 sports anyways.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Michigan is absolutely spending huge amounts now
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They weren't 2 years ago. I recall Harbaugh sounding off about it. It certainly isn't reflecting in the recruiting if they are spending a ton. Of course maybe they are just paying their top guys a lot to keep them from entering the portal.
 
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VolGee4 said:
We are also in a unique situation where our two (really 3 but not sure how much NIL is spent on baseball) big sports have recently played at elite levels, and we’ve spent big money on both. What other schools are in that class? Alabama, maybe Auburn without results, Michigan (but football wasn’t good), Oregon. Ohio State isn’t even good in basketball.
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I don’t discount the notion the there might just not be enough to go around. My suspicion, though, is that Heup is just much more of a football nerd and culture guy than he is a salesman and fundraiser.

My suggestion to him would be to appoint a “GM” that he trusts who could translate his vision to the boosters and handle the meat and potatoes of roster crafting.
 
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Carp said:
They weren't 2 years ago. I recall Harbaugh sounding off about it. It certainly isn't reflecting in the recruiting if they are spending a ton. Of course maybe they are just paying their top guys a lot to keep them from entering the portal.
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Correct they were not. That has changed. Their NIL has seen a serious influx of cash the last 12-18 months
 
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Jimmy Football said:
This is somewhat in contradiction to reports that we’re about to have one of the most expensive basketball rosters in the country (provided we land who we’re targeting).

It would be strange if our booster base was willing to pay for a basketball roster but not football. Now is Heup and crew going to the same lengths as Barnes to solicit the funds? That’s an open question, I think.
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Makes me think back to this tweet a few weeks ago:
 
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Any movement on QB names to the good guys?

Can't scroll rn through all the Nico obsession is beyond me. He gone. I just care about folks that want to be here. Let's go get some VFLs and forget about the damn quitters. Bye Felicia
 
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Carp said:
That list is also not super relevant in terms of NIL value. That's only in reference to donations to the athletic program. Virginia, for example, does not have a strong NIL collective. But they are one the most elite Public universities in the country that received a lot of university donations.
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Hence my statement, "The article below places TN at 14th nationally in donor money".
 
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screenthis said:
From Will West and Off The Hook Sports, Tennessee is just not on the same level with NIL cash regarding Big 10 teams. Welp, that's not good given that $$$$ now is a big factor on who wins.
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If we're talking UM/OSU, shouldn't be surprising. They have far more graduates and thus fanbase potential. Higher pop states too without much in-state competition...Mich St at best. OSU has...Cincy?

The rest of the B1G? Outside of Oregon (Nike) nobody is above us. If UT ever gets to TX/FL level numbers, our NIL will be game over. We just don't have the enrollment numbers as them or OSU. Natural limiting factor. Luckily we have passionate folks and that keeps us in the ballgame. We could really use a Phil Knight type though.
 
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The more I think about it, the better I feel if we end up with someone like Angeli.

Means you'd still have Merk and GMac totally locked in and a healthy 3 person battle for starting QB. Cheaper, more money to spend on WR, DT etc. Lockeroom stays united, because everyone understands we need another QB.
 
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Devo182 said:
If we're talking UM/OSU, shouldn't be surprising. They have far more graduates and thus fanbase potential. Higher pop states too without much in-state competition...Mich St at best. OSU has...Cincy?

The rest of the B1G? Outside of Oregon (Nike) nobody is above us. If UT ever gets to TX/FL level numbers, our NIL will be game over. We just don't have the enrollment numbers as them or OSU. Natural limiting factor. Luckily we have passionate folks.
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True. Now darn it, lower those standards even futher and bring in a bunch of students.
 
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GVol1966 said:
Tom Brady threw 20 passes and played in 6 games his first 2 years at Michigan.


And now you and the players want to play from day 1 way before their ready, and they play like crap, but want to be paid like NFL hall of famers
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Tom Brady wasn't a 5* recruit or even a high 4* .

Brady was considered a 3* or borderline 4* . Anyhow you would rather 4* and 5* recruits stand on sidelines for 2 years while being recruited over?

Really doesn't matter either way. You don't want them to play and I prefer them to play. Odds are neither one of us will change our stance. Agree to disagree..
 
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