Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[mr.checkerboards]

In his defense, Majors & Fulmer both took multiple years to really show their worth and live up to their billing. We can’t be pounding sand after a year and half of the man actually getting his type & style of players and getting his culture implemented. We’re just asking fans like yourself to have a measure of patience. That’s all. It’s tough I know but if allowed to do what he is very much capable of doing, I certainly think we’re a perennial threat/contender with the big boys in a reasonable time frame.

At some point he has to earn it. Majors was a NC winning coach he deserved/earned time. Fulmer earned time he had a 10 win season his first full year and another in his second. He also had wins against UGA and Alabama to hang his hat on. Pruitt is in year 3 and is still get blown out by UK and isn't within 30 points once again of the big 3 ( I understand we haven't played UF yet. He has made very intrestin personnel decisions ( I don't believe for one second JG is the best QB we have ) and looked lost on the sidelines on game day. We are also looking at assistant coach turn over once again and its not because they're getting poached because they're good. He hasn't earned any benefit of the doubt and he hasn't earned patience, the extension he was given was dumb. Its year 3 and we are arguably only slightly better than year 1.

 

[Ace]

I just went to FF and glanced at the thread titles. I know I have said this before, but they literally start a new thread anytime someone has what they think is a new thought.

 

[Devo182]

I know I’m about to get flamed for this, but I don’t understand what the big deal is about Hugh Freeze. I want that dude nowhere near my program or my young players. It just screams program torpedo to me for some reason

No need for flames. People want him simply because he took sh**hole Ole Miss and had them winning and beating Saban. 6-0 at Liberty (who?) rn. Say what you want, but he gets results. Too bad he's too dumb to not get caught (or was that Saban?).

 

[gordonr24]

Cowboys about to tank for Trevor.

Cowboys already have too many wins to get Trevor because the Jets are finishing 0-16.

 

[VOLSONLY]

Welcome back man it’s all good

 

[Devo182]

I just went to FF and glanced at the thread titles. I know I have said this before, but they literally start a new thread anytime someone has what they think is a new thought.

They're the sort of crowd that probably still uses AOL on dial-up and have Geocities websites.

 

[therickbol]

yeah, i think the way i phrase what you're talking about is "the 'how' matters"....and you can apply that to almost anything, like i do with my kids' school work....my 8th grader is a solid a/b student, but she's naturally smart, and gets a's and b's if she just shows up and does the bare minimum. but she absolutely sucks at doing things on time or just following simple instructions....

she's lost a full letter grade in one class simply because of late submissions and failing to follow instructions (pt. deductions for stuff like not putting your name at the top of the assignment...stupid stuff)...

her response is typical "i got a b, what's the big deal?" or offering the excuses "why does my name need to be on it, it shows who submitted it on line?"

and man, does that open the door for some good coversation about why "the how" matters......eventually that's what will catch up to you and be THE reason you fail at something, or fall short of what you want to accomplish (or something of the like).....

who knows maybe if @Smyrna ATL Vol had been a better practice player, he'd be playing professional soccer by now??

Exactly correct.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Is this really Catbone! Missed you man

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

You don't know that, and you won't know that until the player's union has there say. Security and team management asked him to stay quarantined and he refused. If nothing else the guy's probably getting traded/cut for this.

Until the players union has a say? I guarantee if one of his teammates had an issue you would of heard about it by now.

The Coronabros can’t handle people not giving a **** about this.

 

[therickbol]

I guess Josh Dobbs should have never played. Some times people are gamers and not good practice players. And our coaching staff makes millions of dollars to win football games.

You are mixing up arguments. Not performing well in practice is one issue. And it is an issue that can be worked around. Not performing well in practice because the player is..... failing to prepare properly, failing to give max effort, failing to understand the importance of the small details during practice, etc is a different issue. Dobbs did not practice poorly because of any of those issues I just listed. If the young guys are having any of those issues then CJP could care less if they might perform better on a Saturday in Nov 2020. He has much a higher standard and objective to accomplish.

 

[SLICKYINC]

If I am shooting a gun and I don't know someone is down range it's probably manslaughter or negligence.

If I keep shooting after someone tells me there's someone down range, that's murder. Prior knowledge matters.

This is a professional athletes that gets a living by being in peak form. He's jeopardizing the livelihoods of every one of his teammates by exposing them to potential myocarditis, long-term lung issues, even neurological issues like HALLUCINATIONS after contracting COVID. This isn't anyone's fault but his own, and Justin Turner deserves the consequences of his actions, and I'm sure the Players Union will agree.

Wow

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Bo Davis is near Rodney Garner level

 

[nicksjuzunk]

I know I’m about to get flamed for this, but I don’t understand what the big deal is about Hugh Freeze. I want that dude nowhere near my program or my young players. It just screams program torpedo to me for some reason

I’m all in for his recovery and redemption.

I celebrated way too hard when he fell. I was so happy to see a rival fall I lost sight of his humanity. Way too many stones flying in glass houses. Someone called us out on it and I owned it. Still feel bad at how I represented myself then.

 

[Frankwillie87]

Until the players union has a say? I guarantee if one of his teammates had an issue you would of heard about it by now.

The Coronabros can’t handle people not giving a **** about this.

What you're missing is that people don't always come out and say when they're uncomfortable, and people don't always go to the media about their teammates. Do you think the commissioner or anyone else would be involved if his teammates didn't report it to him?

I'm over this mask and COVID **** and we are hitting record number of infections even WITH the Whitehouse controlling the numbers and masks being worn by the majority of people. It's irresponsible to act like it's not a big deal.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

I just went to FF and glanced at the thread titles. I know I have said this before, but they literally start a new thread anytime someone has what they think is a new thought.

Its like a conversation with a group of three year olds. Just random thoughts without context or conclusion.

“Hi Mr. Nick! I have an Apple.”

 

[Jwbvol]

Change your avi so we recognize you

I don't want people to lol

 

[Devo182]

You are mixing up arguments. Not performing well in practice is one issue. And it is an issue that can be worked around. Not performing well in practice because the player is..... failing to prepare properly, failing to give max effort, failing to understand the importance of the small details during practice, etc is a different issue. Dobbs did not practice poorly because of any of those issues I just listed. If the young guys are having any of those issues then CJP could care less if they might perform better on a Saturday in Nov 2020. He has much a higher standard and objective to accomplish.

The whole Dobbs argument is sort of an anomaly for the most part. The discussion was that he didn't shine in practice his FR year...well that was because his greatest attribute BY FAR were his legs. We don't have a guy like that rn unfortunately. It's not that he was a a revelation throwing the ball at all and that's the main thing that translates from practice to games. Maurer is the closest thing, but he's no Dobbs at all...especially considering the IQ side. Maurer just seems to make straight up mental mistakes.

 

[Orangeredblooded]

I don't want people to lol

Alright Eeyore, fair enough.

 

[KPT_VFL]

So the consensus is we need Bo Davis? Also how do we rate Pruitts staff? Just between Pruitt, Neids, Tee, Ansley and possibly Bo Davis we should in theory have elite recruiters on staff correct?

 

[VOLSONLY]

I don't want people to lol

Look Cat everybody was ticked during that game. It’s all good welcome back. Besides you’ve got as much right to be here as the next person

 

[nicksjuzunk]

I don't want people to lol

 

[InVOLuntary]

If JG holds on and plays most of the remaining games.

Arkansas 80%
A&M 50%
Vandy 90%
Auburn 60%
Florida 30%

I got 3-2 maybe 4-1


If we go to any of the other QBs for a majority of the snaps
Arkansas 60%
A&M 30%
Vandy 70%
Auburn 35%
florida 10%
2-3 under this one

Jmo but it’s based on getting the JG we saw against Mizzu and Bama. If we get the 6 quarter Georgia and Kentucky QB we have to move on and that means less wins.

I'm not blaming all this on JG. I think the play calling for JG is limiting his performance. I'm not entirely sure whether the play calling is because of JG or in spite of JG. I guess what I'm saying is the combo of Chaney/Pruitt and JG is not a winning combination. I think the book is out on JG/Chaney/Pruitt. Stop the run, cover the out routes, cover the screen. Make JG beat you over the top, which he has done but I think the teams are willing to give up the 2-3 deep passes. We've shown zero ability to work the center of the field. If that continues, I think it's going to be a long row to hoe. Really need to change things up to make it harder on defense. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Orange Studs]

Got a question about Bo Davis. I take it that Bo was the one that the CBS announcer was talking about last Saturday and one picture I saw of Bo Davis he was in a Detroit Lions sweatshirt. Has he coached in NFL or just happen to be wearing the sweatshirt?

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Is that cat?

 

[butchna]

Got a question about Bo Davis. I take it that Bo was the one that the CBS announcer was talking about last Saturday and one picture I saw of Bo Davis he was in a Detroit Lions sweatshirt. Has he coached in NFL or just happen to be wearing the sweatshirt?

Yes