Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Ron Swanson]

From 2017




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So he was Mizzou’s OC when they beat us 50-17 in Columbia? Cool.

 

[jp1]

It’s not about the final ruling it’s the damage that will done while waiting for the ruling from the ncaa. Negative recruiting will kill us claiming the death penalty will be coming

And that will hang over our heads for 1-2 years before the sanctions even hit waiting for them to get to our case. Then they will levy their penalties... which will be the hammer. We will not get out of this at all. LSU, UNC, and Kansas has shown us how to deal with the NCAA. We decide to hand them all the information.

 

[05_never_again]

It’s not an inferior job, it’s an inferior or undesirable situation given the NCAA cloud and the fact that our 3 biggest rivals are National Champs and NY6 bowl teams.

That, plus a long history of administrative incompetence. This is a new regime in charge now, yes, but we still have that history that people see.

Tennessee is seen as a "trap" job nationally. It has all the appearances of a big program - great history/brand, great facilities, a huge and crazy fanbase, etc. But it isn't run like and hasn't performed like a top program in a long time.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Hyatt family still bought in!!!!

 

[m1al]

I doubt it. This job really does look like a **** sandwich to most coaches out there. And we may actually be lucky that DW came from a program with a relatively promising young coach who would take it, because we don't even know what the sanctions will look like. Sonny Dykes may have been our ceiling were it not for the DW/JH connection.

You're NEVER going to get some Vol fans to believe their beloved Vols are perceived this badly to the outside world. Unfortunately they live in a bubble and would rather stay there then come out of it and take a real look at the state of this program..

PRAY AD White is what they say he is going forward. We DESPERATELY need strong leadership to drag the program out of the hole previous leadership has put us in...

Going to be a long, hard road folks..

 

[ndubvols]

Travis not happy:

The fact that Clay is throwing out Kiffin and Freeze is proof that he’s drumming up clicks. Anybody with half a brain knew neither of those were actually going to happen.

 

[UTK]

Watch Florida hire freeze or Kiffin or another whale inside the next 2 years.

I don’t think another fan base has had to go through what we have had to go through in regards to administrative incompetence over the last 15 years.

Kiffin ain't a whale, woulda still been nice to have though. Be a lot more energetic around here lol

 

[Bigworm87]

I dont think it came down to money for Franklin, we apparently offered a lot and he still said no.

Clay is actually pretty close to Franklin. So, I wouldn't put it past this University.

 

[VFL92]

Nothing personal against our new coach, but in the SEC its 99% about the recruiting. If you can recruit then you have a chance. Where do we stand from a recruiting front? That will tell you our future.

NO IT'S NOT. If it was 99% recruiting, we would've been a top 4-5 team in the conference for the past decade.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Guys, I want to take this opportunity to announce my candidacy for the position of 3rd Assistant Secretary for the Legions of the Miserables. I would be grateful for your support. Thanks.

 

[goooooovols]

I would love to here the explanation on kiffin... I actually think Heupel is better than chadwell and I think freeze is herpes to anyone in the sec and power 5 tbh

 

[Weezer]

He can't even beat Heupel. Heupel is 2-0 against him.

The SEC is a different landscape.

 

[reVOLution33]

“Believe the Heup”

What Heup?

 

[jp1]

Yeah that's what I used to think. Then I wised up.

Name me a program in the SEC that has done it differently?

 

[SergeantVol]

It is unequivocally a thing.

Yeah, vol Twitter doesn’t help any when they email and DM coaches. That’s the downside with passion. You tend to be very reactionary.

 

[Smokeyshowl66]

I also think the conjecture that we avoided Sexton clients is probably accurate, because we would have to show him the results of the internal investigation. That narrowed the range of possibilities. Are Kiffin, Freeze, and Chadwell clients of Sexton?

Again, blame Fulmer and Pruitt for putting us in this position.

This is nuanced so bear with me. It wasn't that they avoided Sexton clients, DW just refused to deal with Sexton's middle man tricks. Sexton is known to use boosters he is close with (or media) to put pressure on ADs to talk to (even hire) his clients, without ever speaking with the AD. DW refused to play that game and notified Sexton early on they had to speak directly and he wouldn't respond to others being his messenger. Sexton (and a few boosters and members of the media) weren't happy about that, but there were discussions about several Sexton clients - but nothing bubbled up in terms of mutual interest. Punchline, if you want to control leaks, you minimize the use of middle men. That's why there were very few leaks until the very end.

 

[Tnfan41]

Dan Wolken actually said something I agree with. He said Tennessee should have just fired Pruitt and paid him instead of digging around to find dirt and bury our own program and the job would have been 10 times more attractive. This is so Tennessee 🗑🗑🗑

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

 

[HawkVol2213]

Heupel going to target Lebby and Kendall Briles as OC. Randy Shannon not coming, Going to try to keep Steele. Possibly keep Tee and Jay. Look for Elarbee as OL coach.

Look at the smile on that clowns face.

 

[SmokeyLives]

I’m getting back on the train for season tix! Like right now!

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

UCF gonna get an upgrade.

So are we

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

 

[VolNRaleighNC]

Can you give us an idea of what happened?

Yeah, UT is not an attractive job AT ALL. We thought we could go shopping on Rodeo Dr. but took a wrong turn and ended up buying a pair of slacks on sale at Dress Barn.

 

[VOLUNTEERSZN]

Everyone: we need an offense minded coach that can score a lot of points and keep us in games

Tennessee: *hires the guy that has the number 2 offense in the nation and has ONE double digit loss in 3 seasons*

Everyone: NOOOOO THIS HIRE SUCKS