Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[VolInDayton]

Dabo* talked him out of it.

I'm thankful for Dabos big mouth. Elliot would have been a disaster. We got the right guy. Dabo will Wish he let Elliot take the job after he sees what Heupel builds.

 

[volswillrise12]

Are they saying there might be mutual interest, or are they just tossing out names?

Tossing out names.

 

[VolInNorthCack]

The over/under for Tennessee-Ole Miss will be like 120

lol. I said 130 in this thread yesterday. Has the line already started to move that much?!?

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Who was the QB the year before he got there? Wondering if Lock was his first QB.

Drew Lock both seasons

Lock before Heupel:
49% 1332 yds 4 tds 8 ints

Lock with Heupel:
2016 - 54.6% 3399 yds 23 tds 10 ints
2017 - 57.8% 3964 yds 44 tds 13 ints

Lock post Heupel: (Dooley)
2018 - 62.9% 3498 yds 28 tds 8 ints


He had Mizzou humming:
2015- 165.5 passing yds 115.4 rushing yards 280.9 total and 13.6 PPG
2016- 295.4 passing yds 205.1 rushing yards 500.5 total and 31.4 PPG (1k rusher)
2017- 308.6 passing yds 194.5 rushing yards 503.2 total and 37.5 PPG (1k rusher)
2018- 279.4 passing yds 202.4 rushing yards 481.8 total and 36.6 PPG

 

[SweetasSoda]

and another !

This is ridiculous.

 

[Batman1948]

I do that too, but then I have to go backwards to figure out context!

If you really get behind and want to find out the good information, just use the search feature for certain posters and then it seems to make sense.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Well saying White passed on Elliot may not be true. Elliot had already turned down two offers to the NFL. Personally, I wouldn't want to come to a toxic place for my first HC either. I would want a fighting chance for my first time. lol

I didn't say White passed on Elliott, was saying I'm not sure why Elliott would pass on us.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I really hope JH brings Elarbee to coach OL. I think OL coach is the most important assistant hire of them all. They are the ones installing the run game most of the time and having chemistry and familiarity with the play call is so important.

Elarbee is a Middle Tennessee grad and while at Missouri recruited Tennessee and Georgia.

We need him to come along.

 

[RiotVol]

Looking at Mizzou’s 2016 schedule, it looks like Heupel’s offense racked up a ton of points/yards against cupcake teams, but did little against the SEC teams, so there’s more to it than just looking at the overall offense rankings year to year. 2017 is basically the same story, maybe only slighty better. I know some Mizzou fans and most of them back this up and were unimpressed with CJH’s offense there.

My Missouri buddies say the problem was Odom hiring his buddies on the defensive side and letting them run it into the ground while he tried to figure out how to be a HC. Sounds kind of familiar..

 

[drvenner]

Yay....took me all day, but finally got to the end.

Great, you can take a break now and read the new Game of Thrones novel.

Oh wait, nvm, Martin's a butthole who is likely to never finish it.

 

[Volfanatic_20]

This is ridiculous.

Tee needs to go get a OC job where he is the sole play caller or get a head coaching job at a smaller program and work his way up. He is delusional. We shouldn't be competing with South Alabama for head coaching candidates.

 

[VolInDayton]

Is he good?

Young guy. His first year as DC at San Diego At he had the 32nd ranked defense. The next year he had the 2nd ranked. Cut his teeth in the SEC at Miss St last year. He knows what it's like coaching D for a pass happy play caller in a major confrence. Maybe we need a young defensive mind to compete with the new wave of offense

 

[Dudley Smith]

+1 from me on Arnett for DC. Got looks from ND, LSU, and Texas a few weeks ago. Apparently some questions about his performance in the interview process, but he runs the kind of defense for the modern game, and already knows what it is like to be on a team where the offense is going to put stress on their own defense like Leach does.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Heupel is also taking a big risk coming here. UT will chew you up and spit you out and severely limit your HC opportunities in the future. Hopefully he has thick skin and can survive what the fans will eventually dish out.

Good. You make it or you don’t. We’re not a stepping stool program.

 

[volswillrise12]

Is he good?

Yeah, Leach has a past history of hiring good assistants. Arnett runs a 3-3-5 stack from the Rocky Long school of defense. SEC offenses spreading it out and throwing it’s incumbent on having multiple athletic DBs on the back end.

 

[BruinVol]

Elarbee is a Middle Tennessee grad and while at Missouri recruited Tennessee and Georgia.

We need him to come along.

I posted earlier that I thought I recalled him leaving Mt with some sort of player abuse scandal.

Heard anything about that ?

 

[Ace]

Kansas’ OC is paying his own buyout of $500,000 to leave Kansas to go to Middle Tennessee to be OC. I wish we had hired Les Miles (sarcasm). Coaches are literally paying Kansas to leave.

 

[Batman1948]

Can someone send me a screenshot of that deleted post in a private message? I was busy working today (after the neglect of the last two days.)

I have it but you really don't want to see it. If any of it is true, it made no sense to post the information and then to try to bring another sport into all of this. It was just a stupid thing for him to post.

 

[BeecherVol]

i just want there to be a legit qb competition.

One bright spot on this roster is QB options.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Per the VQ Podcast, sounds like no on Lebby, Shannon, Barry Odom and likely no on Steele.

Yeah, as I got to thinking about it, usually if you make a big coordinator hire as a new HC, it is released immediately after the press release.

 

[HankHill]

Do we know if he is known as a good recruiter?

I’m sure he would have no problems recruiting here. Mississippi state was one of the best and youngest teams in the league this year.

 

[jp1]

Arnett is a star. Would be a A++++++++ hire. Leach always seems to find great assistants.

What makes him a star?

 

[HankHill]

What makes him a star?

The way his defenses play.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I added this to my last post

if you believe White fed VQ the franklin stuff then you also have to believe he fed them the Jh stuff. Hard to accept that as possible

White didn't feed them anything, all their sources were from outside the program. Which is why they were always plugged into the search.

 

[HankHill]

What makes him a star?

Zach Attack: A look at what makes MSU's Zach Arnett so successful