Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Deebowbear]

We need Garner for sure

Don’t need Steele just because he has ties here all new blood

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Here's what I'd like to see, in an ideal world:

Elarbee and Golesh are non-negotiables for me. Those guys have to be here.

Kodi Burns is a good recruiter, bring him as well. Kodi Burns, Wide Receivers Coach (FB), Auburn Tigers

I hope Steele stays because I want someone with Tennessee ties on staff. Garner is a great recruiter, so is Brick Haley. All three are great football coaches too. I'd put Haley in the outside linebackers role, have Steele as inside linebackers. Garner can have the defensive line.

JJ McClesky and/or Willie Martinez as secondary coaches. Montario Hardesty as RBs coach. McClesky can recruit Louisiana, Hardesty covers the Carolinas.

I like it...but what about Simon?

 

[tomq_123]

 

[engineerVOL]

If your Jeff Lebby, would you take take an OC job at Tennessee or head coach at UCF?

Uh that’s about $2,000,000 difference... HC of Disney world all day every day baby

 

[eVOLve]

Ok so stab at roster left over. If I am correct doesn't everyone stay in what class they were the year before. So Bailey is just a freshman all over again?

I have put a few notes on questions I have, everyone give me tips and I'll keep editing it and then can start a new thread for discussion/tracking once we have it closer to correct.

Offense

QB
1 - Harrison Bailey - FR
2 - Hendon Hooker - RSJR
3 - Kaidon Salter - FR
4 - Brian Maurer - So

RB
1 - Tiyon Evans - SO
2 - Jabari Small - FR
3 - Dee Beckwith - FR
4 - Len Whitehead - FR
5 - Tee Hodge - FR
6 - Cody Brown - FR

WR
1 - Velus Jones Jr - SR
2 - Jalin Hyatt - FR
3 - Cedric Tillman - SO
4 - Malichi Wideman - FR
5 - Ramel Keyton - SO
6 - Jimmy Holiday / Calloway - FR
7 - Jimmy Holiday / Calloway - FR
8 - Walker Merrill - FR

TE/Flex
1 - Austin Pope - SR
2 - Princeton Fant - JR
3 - Jacob Warren - So
4 - Miles Campbell - FR
5 - Dee Beckwith - FR

OT
1 - Darnell Wright - SO
2 - Cade Mays - JR
3 - K'Rojhn Calbert - JR
4 - Jackson Lampley - FR

OG
1 - Jerome Carvin - JR
2 - Riley Locklear - SR
3 - Javontez Spraggins - FR
4 - Chris Akporoghene - FR

C
1 - Cooper Mays

DEFENSE

DL (hard to know how it all fits not knowing DC)
1 - Matt Butler - SR
2 - Darel Middleton - SR
3 - Greg Emerson - SO
4 - Tyler Baron - FR (if traditional 4-3 he fits here)
5 - Latrell Bumphus - SR
6 - JaQuain Blakely - SR
7 - Elijah Simmons - FR
8 - Omari Thomas - FR
9 - Kurrott Garland - SO
10 - Katron Evans - FR
(Solomon is heading to NFL right?)

LB
1 - Jeremy Banks - JR
2 - Solon Page - JR
3 - Tyler Baron - (If 3-4 he fits here)
4 - Roman Harrison - FR
5 - Morven Joseph - FR
6 - Martavius French - FR
7 - Bryson Eason - FR
8 - Aaron Willis - FR
9 - Byron Young - SO

CB
1 - Alontae Taylor - JR
2 - Kenneth George Jr - SR
3 - Warren Burrell - SO
4 - Doneiko Slaughter - FR
5 - Shawn Shamburger (He is back right?) - SR
6 - DeShawn Rucker - FR
7 - Tys Fields - FR
8 - Tamarion McDonald - FR
S
1 - Jaylen McCollough - So
2 - Theo Jackson - SR (did he come back)
3 - Trevon Flowers - JR
4 - Kareem Marley - FR

Will Salter be here for spring ball?

 

[whitw]

New t-shirt idea:

“Tennessee’s All-Portal Team would beat your All-Portal Team.”

Guys?

We went 3-7 this year

 

[I4Jay]

easy Jimmy.....lol

And it was totally a Hyams mistake. Bc I reread the text and it said Contact not contract I’ll show myself out

 

[engineerVOL]

Please unplug DM’s internet

 

[jpope9]

Uh that’s about $2,000,000 difference... HC of Disney world all day every day baby

throw in free tickets with front of the line privileges and you got yourself a deal!

 

[BruinVol]

Will Salter be here for spring ball?

Yes

 

[jpope9]

Will Salter be here for spring ball?

he's already here.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Will Salter be here for spring ball?

Salter is already in school.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Generally speaking this is my take. I posted some tables earlier this morning showing the UCF W/L record against the defensive rankings of their opponents. UCF scored below their average points against better defenses. No real surprise, right? Those were also the games they most often lost. So while I think our offense will likely be better, more consistent, and put up more points overall, we’re going to be facing better defenses more often than UCF faced. jmo.

The other thing is that UCF’s opponents were generally not superior in talent as measured by the 247 composite. That will be the other major headwind we could face in a few games. We’re going to be outmatched in some, mostly evenly matched in others, and will likely have the superior talent in a few. I think we win when we have the clear talent advantage, maybe mixed bag when it’s more even, and struggle when we’re outclassed. jmo.

That is concerning. Also seems to match up with his numbers at Mizzou. They struggled to score against the better teams they played

 

[butchna]

Imagine a good QB with Callaway, JJ, and Palmer. It's cruel to think about

I keep forgetting Calloway...I’m no better than the previous coaching staff.

 

[Ericvol2096]

Will Salter be here for spring ball?

He will, I will admit I didn't only include EE's, trying to project more towards August.

 

[brentcontractor]

We do not need Chaney as a $1.6 million analyst

Agree, we dont need him. We are however stuck paying him for his contract. Why dont we try to get something for that.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I like it...but what about Simon?

He's been here in an off-field role. Keep him there.

 

[butchna]

Is this the new Pruitt workout tweet?

Not annoying enough.

 

[Sleegro]

Ok so stab at roster left over. If I am correct doesn't everyone stay in what class they were the year before. So Bailey is just a freshman all over again?

I have put a few notes on questions I have, everyone give me tips and I'll keep editing it and then can start a new thread for discussion/tracking once we have it closer to correct.

Offense

QB
1 - Harrison Bailey - FR
2 - Hendon Hooker - RSJR
3 - Kaidon Salter - FR
4 - Brian Maurer - So

RB
1 - Tiyon Evans - SO
2 - Jabari Small - FR
3 - Dee Beckwith - FR
4 - Len Whitehead - FR
5 - Tee Hodge - FR
6 - Cody Brown - FR

WR
1 - Velus Jones Jr - SR
2 - Jalin Hyatt - FR
3 - Cedric Tillman - SO
4 - Malichi Wideman - FR
5 - Ramel Keyton - SO
6 - Jimmy Holiday / Calloway - FR
7 - Jimmy Holiday / Calloway - FR
8 - Walker Merrill - FR

TE/Flex
1 - Austin Pope - SR
2 - Princeton Fant - JR
3 - Jacob Warren - So
4 - Miles Campbell - FR
5 - Dee Beckwith - FR

OT
1 - Darnell Wright - SO
2 - Cade Mays - JR
3 - K'Rojhn Calbert - JR
4 - Jackson Lampley - FR

OG
1 - Jerome Carvin - JR
2 - Riley Locklear - SR
3 - Javontez Spraggins - FR
4 - Chris Akporoghene - FR

C
1 - Cooper Mays

DEFENSE

DL (hard to know how it all fits not knowing DC)
1 - Matt Butler - SR
2 - Darel Middleton - SR
3 - Greg Emerson - SO
4 - Tyler Baron - FR (if traditional 4-3 he fits here)
5 - Latrell Bumphus - SR
6 - JaQuain Blakely - SR
7 - Elijah Simmons - FR
8 - Omari Thomas - FR
9 - Kurrott Garland - SO
10 - Katron Evans - FR
(Solomon is heading to NFL right?)

LB
1 - Jeremy Banks - JR
2 - Solon Page - JR
3 - Tyler Baron - (If 3-4 he fits here)
4 - Roman Harrison - FR
5 - Morven Joseph - FR
6 - Martavius French - FR
7 - Bryson Eason - FR
8 - Aaron Willis - FR
9 - Byron Young - SO

CB
1 - Alontae Taylor - JR
2 - Kenneth George Jr - SR
3 - Warren Burrell - SO
4 - Doneiko Slaughter - FR
5 - Shawn Shamburger (He is back right?) - SR
6 - DeShawn Rucker - FR
7 - Tys Fields - FR
8 - Tamarion McDonald - FR
S
1 - Jaylen McCollough - So
2 - Theo Jackson - SR (did he come back)
3 - Trevon Flowers - JR
4 - Kareem Marley - FR

I bet Jacob Warren is a monster in this offense. Go look at Jacob Harris at UCF. TE that's used more as a big receiver instead of forcing him into what he's not.

 

[scvolfan7]

Except with the teams competing for championships every year

Bama, CU, OSU, and GA get pretty much all of the legit top end players. The rest comes down to out-evaluating and out-coaching the competition. We’ve done a horrible job of that other than a couple years with butch

 

[Smokey'sHandler]

Develop what you have well = win games

win games = better recruiting

Therefore develop well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recruiting.

This x100! I think we have put wayyyyy too much stock into recruiting ability when we have looked to hire coaches in the past. Right now I couldn't care if we finished 20th in recruiting as long as our coaches are developing players and they are being successful on the field. It's so frustrating to me to see a team loaded with Top 15 class recruiting class talents that can barely get lined up on the field. For right now give me a coaching staff that can develop then recruiting will come.

 

[therickbol]

De1 not happy about the Heupel hire

That is the most ringing endorsement I have heard yet.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Develop what you have well = win games

win games = better recruiting

Therefore develop well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recruiting.

We are ALWAYS collectively putting the cart before the horse.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Basilio was reading an aritcle from a 247 writer, said these guys are expected to come.
Alex Golesh TE/ CO OC
Glen Elarbee AHC/OL
Joey Halzale- QB
Brandon Lawson

 

[T Dog]

Life is too long