Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Full ride- They are saying we would owe Steele $800k if he isn’t retained. Forget that, if he doesn’t want to be DC, you make him an analyst for 450k until he decides to find another job.

 

[Sleegro]

Hubbs and AP said this morning he doesn't like Randy Shannon, and never liked Randy Shannon.

Supposedly Randy Shannon was hired by DW, not JH.

Even if he is hands off of the defense, which I am fine with, hopefully he finds somebody good who he can see eye to eye with.

Randy Shannon was there to recruit Miami.

 

[butchna]

True, but didn't JH just inherit 3 straight top 20 classes? I mean there could be a dip in recruiting with him here, but if he can just develop the high rated classes he inherits will we even notice a dip?

We’ll notice. All in with giving Heupel a full chance, but (at least initially) he’s Mullen level at closing recruits...which was my negative on his hiring.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Towards the end of the season it was revealed we actually had guys at the position. Minor detail of actually throwing at them.

Thank goodness for HB

 

[pierce60]

Not getting Lebby at this juncture is probably a good thing because if Tennessee has any semblance of success next year (and presumably Ole Miss will as well) he is going to get a HC job....that's only if he doesn't get one this go around.

 

[SpringBokVol]

Full ride- They are saying we would owe Steele $800k if he isn’t retained. Forget that, if he doesn’t want to be DC, you make him an analyst for 450k until he decides to find another job.

Nah - let him go. Pay him. Get him out of the room - all he would be is a toxic distraction

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Live look at @Bassmaster_Vol hearing that news
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Lol wth

 

[butchna]

Full ride- They are saying we would owe Steele $800k if he isn’t retained. Forget that, if he doesn’t want to be DC, you make him an analyst for 450k until he decides to find another job.

$900 k...for 8 days “work”. Fulmer stabs from his grave.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Here's what I'd like to see, in an ideal world:

Elarbee and Golesh are non-negotiables for me. Those guys have to be here.

Kodi Burns is a good recruiter, bring him as well. Kodi Burns, Wide Receivers Coach (FB), Auburn Tigers

I hope Steele stays because I want someone with Tennessee ties on staff. Garner is a great recruiter, so is Brick Haley. All three are great football coaches too. I'd put Haley in the outside linebackers role, have Steele as inside linebackers. Garner can have the defensive line.

JJ McClesky and/or Willie Martinez as secondary coaches. Montario Hardesty as RBs coach. McClesky can recruit Louisiana, Hardesty covers the Carolinas.

I was following until WM. I don’t want him here at all.

 

[TrippieRedd]

HC - Heupel
OC/TE Coach - Golesh (Give him the OC title) no reason to spend a ton of money if Heupel calls plays.
QB - Halzle
RB - I'll put Hardesty here for now @mr.checkerboards
WR - Kodi Burns
OL - Elarbee

DC - Arnett
DL - Garner
LB - TWill
Secondary - ?

Yes, I'm aware that Arnett would probably coach LB's, if he came here.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I agree. It’s a double edge sword. If you take our current roster and line them up we will get blown up. We need a teacher and developer of talent and fundamentals. If you take someone like Steele he will develop a roster and teach but it will be a brutal learning lesson on the field for a few years until we can get the Jimmys and Joes in here on defense if we try to run a Steele type scheme.

Our defense is going to be rough for a little bit no matter who gets the keys. I don't want a overall tiny Big 12 style defense..that will absolutely not work against the better teams in the SEC.

 

[jpope9]

we are going to pay Steele 900k for 2 weeks of "work".....wtf. Fulmer sucks ass.

 

[ConwayFitty]

Ok so stab at roster left over. If I am correct doesn't everyone stay in what class they were the year before. So Bailey is just a freshman all over again?

I have put a few notes on questions I have, everyone give me tips and I'll keep editing it and then can start a new thread for discussion/tracking once we have it closer to correct.

Offense

QB
1 - Harrison Bailey - FR
2 - Hendon Hooker - RSJR
3 - Kaidon Salter - FR
4 - Brian Maurer - So

RB
1 - Tiyon Evans - SO
2 - Jabari Small - FR
3 - Dee Beckwith - FR
4 - Len Whitehead - FR
5 - Tee Hodge - FR
6 - Cody Brown - FR
7- Jaylen Wright - FR

WR
1 - Velus Jones Jr - SR
2 - Jalin Hyatt - FR
3 - Cedric Tillman - SO
4 - Malichi Wideman - FR
5 - Ramel Keyton - SO
6 - Jimmy Holiday / Calloway - FR
7 - Jimmy Holiday / Calloway - FR
8 - Walker Merrill - FR
9 - Julian Nixon-FR

TE/Flex
1 - Austin Pope - SR
2 - Princeton Fant - JR
3 - Jacob Warren - So
4 - Miles Campbell - FR
5 - Dee Beckwith - FR
6- Trinity Bell- FR (could wind up at DE or OT)

OT
1 - Darnell Wright - SO
2 - Cade Mays - JR
3 - K'Rojhn Calbert - JR
4 - Jackson Lampley - FR
5 - William Parker -FR
6- J'Marion Gooch-FR
7 - Amari Mcneil -FR

OG
1 - Jerome Carvin - JR
2 - Riley Locklear - SR
3 - Javontez Spraggins - FR
4 - Chris Akporoghene - FR
5- James Robinson-FR
6 - Kingston Harris-SO

C
1 - Cooper Mays

DEFENSE

DL (hard to know how it all fits not knowing DC)
1 - Matt Butler - SR
2 - Darel Middleton - SR
3 - Greg Emerson - SO
4 - Tyler Baron - FR (if traditional 4-3 he fits here)
5 - Latrell Bumphus - SR
6 - JaQuain Blakely - SR
7 - Elijah Simmons - FR
8 - Omari Thomas - FR
9 - Kurrott Garland - SO
10 - Katron Evans - FR
(Solomon is heading to NFL right?)
11 - Dominic Bailey-FR
12- RJ Perry-FR
13- Isaac Washington- FR

LB
1 - Jeremy Banks - JR
2 - Solon Page - JR
3 - Tyler Baron - (If 3-4 he fits here)
4 - Roman Harrison - FR
5 - Morven Joseph - FR
6 - Martavius French - FR
7 - Bryson Eason - FR
8 - Aaron Willis - FR
9 - Byron Young - SO
10-Aaron Beasley- SO

CB
1 - Alontae Taylor - JR
2 - Kenneth George Jr - SR
3 - Warren Burrell - SO
4 - Doneiko Slaughter - FR
5 - Shawn Shamburger (He is back right?) - SR
6 - DeShawn Rucker - FR
7 - Tys Fields - FR
8 - Tamarion McDonald - FR
S
1 - Jaylen McCollough - So
2 - Theo Jackson - SR (did he come back)
3 - Trevon Flowers - JR
4 - Kareem Marley - FR

5 - D'Shawn Rucker -FR
6 - Christian Charles- FR ( May wind up as a WR or CB)

 

[volfan1631]

@Neyland Rising in the portal. Per Hubbs.....

That would be the worst loss in Volnation history. Stay with us @Neyland Rising

 

[I4Jay]

Wait, so we paid Kevin Steele $900,000 for a 2 week stint?!?!?!

Fulmer...

The gift that keeps on giving!

 

[Kingston Vol]

I was following until WM. I don’t want him here at all.

I'd much rather have McClesky, but I think neither will be here.

 

[Vols2DaWall]

Mississippi state was 4th in the SEC in Avg Rush YPG allowed at 126ypg and 4th in the SEC in avg YPC at 3.6ypc.

Don’t be lazy.

Same at SDSU too. I hope we hire him. I can’t wait to learn about the schematics of a 3-3-5

 

[Ron Swanson]

Tennessee head coach Josh Heupel is working on assembling his coaching staff and it’s expected to have a Central Florida flavor to it on offense.

Thursday morning Tennessee’s University jet flew from Orlando back to Knoxville with several people from UCF’s staff.

In talking to numerous people, we believe offensive line coach Glen Elarbee will be joining the Vol staff. Heupel said on Sportstalk on Wednesday that he plans to call his own plays which makes you believe his set up at Tennessee will be like what he did at Central Florida which included Alex Golesh as his co-offensive coordinator. Heupel’s quarterbacks coach at UCF is Joey Halzle, who played for Heupel at OU. Halzle was UCF’s quality control coach in 2019 and was the qb’s coach in 2020 after Jeff Lebby left that position to go to Ole Miss. We believe Halzle is going to be on the staff and is in Knoxville.

There continues to be some rumblings that Kodi Burns, who joined Heupel’s staff at Central Florida earlier this month could be his receivers coach.

- Hubbs

 

[butchna]

So I see Arnett uses a 3-3-5 base defense. Heard he's rumored to be on our short list. How do you think that scheme would translate to:
1. Our current roster
2. The sec

Fuzzy on the scheme, but from my understanding it’s more conducive to the fallout from a quick striking offense.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

HC - Heupel
OC/TE Coach - Golesh (Give him the OC title) no reason to spend a ton of money if Heupel calls plays.
QB - Halzle
RB - ?
WR - Kodi Burns
OL - Elarbee

DC - Arnett
DL - Garner
LB - TWill
Secondary - ?

Yes, I'm aware that Arnett would probably coach LB's, if he came here.

RB needs to be Hardesty

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

I don't really care for Martinez either, but VQ seems pretty adamant he's coming along.

Well at least he can recruit.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Bring in the guys he is comfortable with on offense - it clearly works. Don't fix it. It ain't broke.

Bring in a new DC and let him hire his guys.

This doesn't seem that hard.

His offensive staff should be able to recruit pretty well, even without the SEC track record. How hard can it be to sell kids on coming in and putting up crazy stats.

I really wish he would retain Steele. Steele and his staff recruited and ran the defense completely separated from Gus and the offense at Auburn. That's exactly what we need now.

 

[eVOLve]

Bend but don’t break D is what we need. Not allowing big plays and efficient at stopping teams in the red zone.

 

[pierce60]

If Tennessee wants Arnett they will get him.

 

[UTVOLS1614]

HC - Heupel
OC/TE Coach - Golesh (Give him the OC title) no reason to spend a ton of money if Heupel calls plays.
QB - Halzle
RB - I'll put Hardesty here for now @mr.checkerboards
WR - Kodi Burns
OL - Elarbee

DC - Arnett
DL - Garner
LB - TWill
Secondary - ?

Yes, I'm aware that Arnett would probably coach LB's, if he came here.

I don’t think people realize the importance of a good OC regardless if he calls the plays or not