Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Weezer]

I mean, Chavis as DC sounds like a Haslam idea. Are sanctions so bad we can't attract a DC?? Holy crap. Steele before Chief.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

You guys realize that, that Twitter account is a Troll account right?

 

[LotteryPick]

Quick! Somebody post the GIF of Steve Spurrier throwing his head set.

 

[Weezer]

You guys realize that, that Twitter account is a Troll account right?

I don't Twitter, so no.

 

[lilesrt]

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Clutch.

 

[volbeast33]

Being reported on TOS that John Chavis could be the new DC. No Im not kidding....

We are not hiring Chavis

 

[Leeleesteeth]

You guys realize that, that Twitter account is a Troll account right?

DO NOT stop the meltdown.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Huge Troll account

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

DO NOT stop the meltdown.

Lol sorry I’ll let it continue

 

[eVOLve]

Y’all got foooooled

 

[drvenner]

She

Hearing Angelia Brummett, UCF's on-campus recruiting coordinator, and graduate assistant Mitch Militello are likely to be part of Josh Heupel's staff at Tennessee.

Brummett has worked at Tennessee in the past and got her degree from Tennessee in 2018. From her UCF bio: "During her undergraduate work at the University of Tennessee, Brummett spent time working with the Volunteers’ football recruiting operations department as a team recruit ambassador and a student assistant for recruiting."

She has an Instagram. Just saying.

 

[SCvol333]

So freedom is owning a dramatically overpriced stock that will certainly go down.

I watched a different Braveheart than some I guess

 

[Z06VolinWV]

Just need to be open minded about a DC. Young great DCs are popping up all over the place now. How many people even knew who guys like Dave arranda, Alex grinch, Brandon Staley, or Zach arnett were ? I’m not worried about name. I just want 4-2-5 or 3-3-5.

How concerned with you with 3-3-5 vs run heavy teams?
Wvu ran 335 for years, and with the right personnel did well v run, but I have seen them get gashed badly by good running teams. I can see UG, Bama, KY, and even SC racking up a lot of yards on a D like that?!

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I believe all the rah rah rah stuff on our new coach is mostly likely the typical hype we tend to generate because, well, we are Tennessee, and we want to believe. I’m not saying this can’t work out; I’m saying I highly doubt it right now. I know most people are focused on the defensive side as a concern with this staff but I’m not convinced that the offense is as cut out to be what some are claiming. For example, the guy was replaced at OU by Riley and the OU offense went to another level in the first year under Riley.

After OU the guy had a 6-win season at Utah State as the OC before moving to Mizzou. His first year at Mizzou, Drew Lock was a sophomore. Lock’s freshman year had been abysmal for the Tiger offense. In 2016 against 8 SEC opponents with our guy running the offense and Drew a year older, the offense averaged 22.6 points per game, good for 11th in the conference. In Lock’s junior year, the offense took the next step, rising to 34.6 ppg against 8 SEC foes. Their best offensive outputs in conference that year took place against Butch Jones’ last team here (4-8) (50 points), a dejected Florida team who coach was claiming to be a victim of death threats (4-7) (45 points), an Arkansas team (4-8) (48 points), and a Vanderbilt team (5-7) (45 points). Missouri finished that 2017 season 7-6.

Figures don’t lie but liars figure. There are all kinds of caveats that affect a team’s performance. At UCF this past year for example one of the hits the team reportedly took was a number of players opting out of participation for the season. Some years you have a better offensive line than others. Sometimes a team gets unlucky on the injury or disciplinary front. It’s hard to look at the headline numbers and jump to conclusions that have a high probability of standing up over time. Hell, we should have had one of the absolute best defenses in the nation over at least the past couple of years but that never materialized. I think most of us at one time believed it would. Alas.

When Chaney was hired I indicated I wasn’t thrilled with the hire. My buddy Charger got offended by my lack of support. I like Charger so I tried to be very careful how I might approach saying anything about Chaney from then on out. I don’t want to offend anyone else here but I’m hearing a lot of what I think is some trying to sell the new hire. We’re trying to convince ourselves of something I strongly suspect that few believe. I don’t have elevated expectations right now and don’t expect I will this time. I’m willing to give it a shot because that’s our only option.

In the past when Nick has done his pregame/game threads for the RF, anytime he predicts that we are going to lose a game, I’ve just shook my head in disbelief. Where does he get off doing that? I love it on the isolated times we prove him wrong. Even though I have a hard time with his “defeatist” view now and again, I most often still try to give him a like, because he’s put some work into it and in all honesty, I actually think he’s still mostly an all-around pretty good guy. jmo.

I guess I’m trying to say I’m probably not going to be cheering as loudly this time around but I’m really hoping I don’t offend you guys too much with some of my contrarian views.

Debbie Downer...All I know is we are going to score more points, and that is a great thing.

 

[volbeast33]

I mean, Chavis as DC sounds like a Haslam idea. Are sanctions so bad we can't attract a DC?? Holy crap. Steele before Chief.

It’s a troll account

 

[BloodShovel]

It’s a troll account

That $h!t ain't funny.

 

[Vfl2407]

Why do we not just call those Beaver shots?

Very popular at bachelor parties, I’m told.

 

[drvenner]

I believe all the rah rah rah stuff on our new coach is mostly likely the typical hype we tend to generate because, well, we are Tennessee, and we want to believe. I’m not saying this can’t work out; I’m saying I highly doubt it right now. I know most people are focused on the defensive side as a concern with this staff but I’m not convinced that the offense is as cut out to be what some are claiming. For example, the guy was replaced at OU by Riley and the OU offense went to another level in the first year under Riley.

After OU the guy had a 6-win season at Utah State as the OC before moving to Mizzou. His first year at Mizzou, Drew Lock was a sophomore. Lock’s freshman year had been abysmal for the Tiger offense. In 2016 against 8 SEC opponents with our guy running the offense and Drew a year older, the offense averaged 22.6 points per game, good for 11th in the conference. In Lock’s junior year, the offense took the next step, rising to 34.6 ppg against 8 SEC foes. Their best offensive outputs in conference that year took place against Butch Jones’ last team here (4-8) (50 points), a dejected Florida team who coach was claiming to be a victim of death threats (4-7) (45 points), an Arkansas team (4-8) (48 points), and a Vanderbilt team (5-7) (45 points). Missouri finished that 2017 season 7-6.

Figures don’t lie but liars figure. There are all kinds of caveats that affect a team’s performance. At UCF this past year for example one of the hits the team reportedly took was a number of players opting out of participation for the season. Some years you have a better offensive line than others. Sometimes a team gets unlucky on the injury or disciplinary front. It’s hard to look at the headline numbers and jump to conclusions that have a high probability of standing up over time. Hell, we should have had one of the absolute best defenses in the nation over at least the past couple of years but that never materialized. I think most of us at one time believed it would. Alas.

When Chaney was hired I indicated I wasn’t thrilled with the hire. My buddy Charger got offended by my lack of support. I like Charger so I tried to be very careful how I might approach saying anything about Chaney from then on out. I don’t want to offend anyone else here but I’m hearing a lot of what I think is some trying to sell the new hire. We’re trying to convince ourselves of something I strongly suspect that few believe. I don’t have elevated expectations right now and don’t expect I will this time. I’m willing to give it a shot because that’s our only option.

In the past when Nick has done his pregame/game threads for the RF, anytime he predicts that we are going to lose a game, I’ve just shook my head in disbelief. Where does he get off doing that? I love it on the isolated times we prove him wrong. Even though I have a hard time with his “defeatist” view now and again, I most often still try to give him a like, because he’s put some work into it and in all honesty, I actually think he’s still mostly an all-around pretty good guy. jmo.

I guess I’m trying to say I’m probably not going to be cheering as loudly this time around but I’m really hoping I don’t offend you guys too much with some of my contrarian views.

I don't like this new persona as much, but I totally get what you're saying. I still love your analysis and I hope that you are crunching numbers soon that demonstrate this is not fool's gold.

 

[BruinVol]

Always my JUCO concern. Right @BruinVol ?

Just say no to Juco!!!

 

[VOLSONLY]

That dang @SLICKYINC

 

[Sevier Volunteer]

What kind of linemen fit into his offense? Are we back to Butch’s type? Lightweights who are fast or are we looking for size?? I’ll go on record (as if it matters) that I’m 100% apathetic and will have to be won back. I love my team and will cheer for them but I’m not heavily invested anymore.

To be fair, we've been embarrassingly bad with 275lb guys, as well as 325lb 5 guys. Past results indicate that there's no where to go but up.

 

[goooooovols]

She
She has an Instagram. Just saying.

Hired! Checks all my boxes..

 

[Vols4us]

How concerned with you with 3-3-5 vs run heavy teams?
Wvu ran 335 for years, and with the right personnel did well v run, but I have seen them get gashed badly by good running teams. I can see UG, Bama, KY, and even SC racking up a lot of yards on a D like that?!

Against run teams/formations they have one and even two LB up on outside for a 5 man front if they don't have time to sub another d-linemen in. Much bigger LB's. MSU has several 250-260 lbers along with the 230 ish ones. They have a strong safety type in the star position usually for run heavy teams. This is not the Chavis Mustang package reincarnated. It adapts well to passing teams by simply subbing in the players based on their specialty whenever possible.

 

[Vols2DaWall]

Just need to be open minded about a DC. Young great DCs are popping up all over the place now. How many people even knew who guys like Dave arranda, Alex grinch, Brandon Staley, or Zach arnett were ? I’m not worried about name. I just want 4-2-5 or 3-3-5.

Is there any functional difference between those formations and just lining up nickel as your base formation

 

[engineerVOL]

Just need to be open minded about a DC. Young great DCs are popping up all over the place now. How many people even knew who guys like Dave arranda, Alex grinch, Brandon Staley, or Zach arnett were ? I’m not worried about name. I just want 4-2-5 or 3-3-5.

No joke I didn’t even know Josh Heupel was a head coach until a couple weeks ago.